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School reverses (Confederate) flag ban
News and Observer ^ | January 30, 2003 | ELLEN SUNG

Posted on 01/30/2003 4:03:19 AM PST by mykdsmom

CLAYTON -- Johnston schools Superintendent James Causby said Wednesday that Clayton High School will no longer stop students from wearing the Confederate flag after a parent complained that the ban was unconstitutional.

Clayton High School principal Jerry Smith banned the symbol Oct. 30, when a group of students wore Confederate insignia to school on the same day in memory of a friend who died the previous year. Smith told the students the Confederate symbol violated the district's dress code, which prohibits clothing that disrupts the classroom.

Some students protested the next day by wearing the emblem again. School officials said the flag was sometimes an incendiary symbol associated with white supremacism, and the students agreed to change clothes. The debate soon died down.

"One day it was the hottest topic on campus, and two days later it was like it was gone," guidance counselor Rodney Allred said.

But Terry Shelton of Clayton, a Civil War re-enactment buff and parent of three Clayton High students, argued that the emblem had not actually disturbed class and that banning an emblem because of its potential for disruption was a violation of free speech.

"I do absolutely agree that that flag has been misused by a lot of white supremacist organizations, who I adamantly denounce," Shelton said. "My point was, you can't preach tolerance if you pick and choose what you will tolerate."

He met with Smith, who stood by the ban, and later with Causby, who also upheld it.

The county Board of Education would have made a final decision in February. But Causby and school board attorney Jimmy Lawrence reviewed the legal precedents again last week and this time agreed with Shelton.

In 1969, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that students had the right to express their opinions as long as they did not disrupt class -- and that this freedom of expression extended to clothing.

"Based upon that, my attorney looked back, and we concluded he had some valid points here, and it's better to handle this issue administratively than to make it a big issue," Causby said.

Jennifer Moon, a junior at Clayton High, said she didn't think wearing the Confederate flag was a major issue before the ban was enacted. She said she has seen almost no signs of racial tension at school.

"I don't think that anyone was really offended whenever they wore it," she said.

Many of her classmates were upset by the ban at first, Moon said, but they soon decided not to fight the policy.

"It's not the biggest problem we have with the dress code," she said, rattling off a list of regulations about tank tops, skirts and shorts.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; confederateflag; dixie; dixielist; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; unhelpful
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1 posted on 01/30/2003 4:03:20 AM PST by mykdsmom
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To: *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; Constitution Day; Lee'sGhost; KOZ.; borntodiefree; azhenfud; ...
NC Ping!
2 posted on 01/30/2003 4:04:12 AM PST by mykdsmom ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world.")
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To: mykdsmom
one word, uniforms
3 posted on 01/30/2003 4:08:26 AM PST by Mercat
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To: mykdsmom
I think it might be a good idea to reinforce this reversal with some phone calls saying we appreciate them doing the right thing.
4 posted on 01/30/2003 4:08:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
I found the web-site for the school here.

They have a phone number listed as 919-553-4064. I don't see any e-mail addresses however. I'll look a little further.

MKM

5 posted on 01/30/2003 4:15:14 AM PST by mykdsmom ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world.")
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To: mykdsmom
Thanks. Good job.
6 posted on 01/30/2003 4:17:26 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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Black conservative ping

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7 posted on 01/30/2003 4:20:26 AM PST by mhking
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To: DoughtyOne
Sorry, I can't seem to find an e-mail for this principal and I can't look any more right now. I have kids to wake up and get off to school. I'll check back later.

MKM

8 posted on 01/30/2003 4:21:28 AM PST by mykdsmom ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world.")
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To: mykdsmom
I think that phone number will be a great help.
9 posted on 01/30/2003 4:31:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: mykdsmom
Excellent decision on the part of the Superintendent. I'm getting very, very tired of the marxists attempts to ban a flag that presents no danger to them whatsoever.
10 posted on 01/30/2003 4:43:31 AM PST by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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Dixie Ping!
11 posted on 01/30/2003 5:12:28 AM PST by TomServo
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To: mykdsmom
Okay, so "gang colors" are also "okay" now.

This is just stupid. Schools ought to just say "you're here to learn. If you want to make silly political statements do that on your own time and place."

The long slide into anarchy takes another couple of feet.

12 posted on 01/30/2003 5:24:18 AM PST by Illbay
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"My point was, you can't preach tolerance if you pick and choose what you will tolerate."
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At last! Someone got it right!
13 posted on 01/30/2003 5:34:41 AM PST by Adder
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Thanks for the ping. Good topic.
14 posted on 01/30/2003 5:44:49 AM PST by stopsign
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Bump!
15 posted on 01/30/2003 5:52:22 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: mykdsmom
Bravo, North Carolina, bravo.
16 posted on 01/30/2003 5:54:46 AM PST by A2J (If all else fails, blame it on someone else.)
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To: Adder
Perhaps the finest use of the language of the day by a conservative I have ever heard. As I say, "Celebrate my diversity or I will sue you."
17 posted on 01/30/2003 5:59:20 AM PST by junta
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To: Illbay
This is just stupid. Schools ought to just say "you're here to learn. If you want to make silly political statements do that on your own time and place."

Really!! How dare they wear something that the racist NAALCP has deemed offensive. And can you imagine some students not willing to accept the regurgitated pablum of revisionist history these 'schools' pass off as truth? I'm with you Illbay. I think they should all be forced to go worship at the tyrant's shrine in Washington as punishment. You getting up a bus to go or shall I? LOL!!

Tell me son, if they're not able to make a political statement until a certain age, and just 'learn' as you say, by the time they are of acceptable age to you, won't the only political statements they make be in line with the national government? Ahhh, but that's what you'd want now isn't it? I don't remember the Constitution stating there was an age limitation on freedom of speech. Of course I don't remember the Constitution covering federally funded schools now either, do you? Maybe you're one of those folks like I've got at work that told me flat out yesterday the Constitution doesn't apply today. It's outdated. According to them we should let Daddy government take care of us, supply us with all our needs. Well they have a place for people like that. It's called Europe

18 posted on 01/30/2003 6:07:38 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: mykdsmom; stainlessbanner
"My point was, you can't preach tolerance if you pick and choose what you will tolerate."

Well now we can't have that now can we? According to ol' Illbers they have to be taught first by the national government what they are supposed to tolerate and not tolerate and then let them make a political statement. Yeah, let the government shape your children's mind first, let them set up the PC standards in their heads, then let them make a political statement. Good grief, I wouldn't even want to imagine what kind of nation of states this would be.

19 posted on 01/30/2003 6:12:01 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: stainlessbanner
GREAT!!!! Every now and then somebody gets it right.
20 posted on 01/30/2003 6:35:53 AM PST by sweetliberty (Go Al, go!)
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