Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Aussie SAS could end up riding to war on the back of trail bikes
Sydney Morning Herald | January 19, 2003 | Frank Walker

Posted on 01/18/2003 7:06:09 AM PST by yankeedame

SAS revved up as riders on the storm

By Frank Walker
January 19 2003

Australian SAS troops will have to change their operational tactics drastically in a war on Iraq and could end up riding to war on the back of trail bikes.

The bikes are most likely to replace the long-range four-wheel-drive jeeps they used in mountainous Afghanistan which are far too visible in the flat, open deserts of Iraq.

Military experts said the SAS would likely be used for desert missions deep behind enemy lines to spy out Iraqi positions.

Rather than attack, they would call in air strikes or US special forces to attack from battle helicopters.

The SAS squads on these types of missions would operate in groups of four or five and aim to be as invisible as possible. The trail bikes would be dropped with them from helicopters.

"We learnt from the mistakes of the British SAS in the '91 Gulf War that it is very hard to hide in that sort of flat desert terrain," said David Horner, author of SAS

- Phantoms Of War which details the history of the Australian elite force.

In a rare glimpse inside the operations of the SAS, the survivor of a botched British SAS mission deep inside Iraq wrote a book called Bravo Two Zero which revealed that bad planning and support had left the squad stranded in the desert fighting Iraqi troops.

They were spotted by a goatherd who alerted Iraqi troops and they had to flee hundreds of kilometres on foot trying to escape.

"That British SAS unit got rumbled very easily and then had no way of getting out except on foot," Professor Horner said.

The Australians wouldn't make that mistake with bikes easily hidden under a tarpaulin, ready for a quick getaway.

They are rigged to run very quietly, with a top speed of 165kmh and extra fuel tanks to give them greater range.

The SAS has been using the bikes for some time. Yamaha sold 500 XT600 bikes to the military with special conversions for gun racks, heavy-duty suspension, large rear panniers and long-range fuel tanks.

Former motocross champion Stephen Gall trained army instructors at Puckapunyal base in special techniques for combat and desert riding.

Prime Minister John Howard has said 150 SAS soldiers were on stand-by to go to the Persian Gulf.

The Yamaha XT600

 Weight 156kilograms; top speed 165kmh.

 Alterations for military use: long-range fuel tanks doubling the range to 300kilometres; gun racks on front and rear of bike; rear carriers for equipment.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:

1 posted on 01/18/2003 7:06:09 AM PST by yankeedame
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: All

I'M BACK!!!

SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC

Donate Here By Secure Server

Or mail checks to
FreeRepublic , LLC
PO BOX 9771
FRESNO, CA 93794

or you can use

PayPal at Jimrob@psnw.com


STOP BY A BUMP THE FUNDRAISER THREAD (It's in the Breaking News sidebar!)

2 posted on 01/18/2003 7:07:06 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
the Yamaha XT600
3 posted on 01/18/2003 8:05:12 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
Why not just drop in a contingent of the Hells Angels?
4 posted on 01/18/2003 8:17:03 AM PST by NYDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYDave
Pretty quick the Iraquis would be addicted to meth, cheap beer, groupies, and double-wides out in the desert.
5 posted on 01/18/2003 8:31:52 AM PST by montomike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: montomike
Falling out of my chair, spitting coffee on my keyboard as I laugh bump.
6 posted on 01/18/2003 9:50:53 AM PST by Smacko
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
I don't remember which gov't is studying it (ours?) but there are studies regarding diesel powered dirtbikes. May be time to try a search.
7 posted on 01/18/2003 9:56:15 AM PST by realpatriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
They are rigged to run very quietly, with a top speed of 165kmh and extra fuel tanks to give them greater range.

Perhaps the "quiet" kit could be used by civilians. I see no reason why motorcycles should be as loud as they are.

8 posted on 01/18/2003 10:04:18 AM PST by glorgau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
Since the Japanese invaded Malaysia with the old fashioned type of bike, this should work fine.

Mules would be another answer for transport. There was complaints about US troops having to carry all their equipment in the afghan mountains..

the more things change the more they stay the same. How about crossbows?
9 posted on 01/18/2003 3:29:24 PM PST by LadyDoc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yankeedame
When it's daylight, and you're going 100KPH across a dry arid plain, how do you keep your dust plume from giving you away.

I've seen dust plumes well, well, before I see the bike or hear it's sound.

They will be more manueverable and be able to get to places that a 4x4 might be able to get into, but unless they only plan on moving at night, they will be as detectable as the 4x4s they are replacing.

Another point to consider, a seriously injured person cannot be expected to ride a bike or even to hold on and ride as a passenger on another bike. In a 4x4, you could strap the injured person in and move out.

In addition, if a 4 person squad is patrolling on bikes, all 4 are riding, nobody is resting. The same 4 in a 4x4 can have 1 driving, 1 observing, and two resting. This way you always have two operators that are fresh and ready to go.

Lastly, I don't know about you, but when the feces hits the rotary oscilator, I would rather have a big old 4x4 as cover than a 350LBS bike laying on it's side.

Just my $0.02

Best Regards

Sergio
10 posted on 01/18/2003 3:45:56 PM PST by Sergio (Logic: Not to be used by liberals, causes a server case of the vapors.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sergio
The Sand Savages are already addicted to groupies. They get 72 of 'em when they die.
11 posted on 01/18/2003 5:34:25 PM PST by GladesGuru
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson