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N. Korea SLAVE CAMP horror revealed
Msnbc.com ^ | 1/15/2003 | By Robert Windrem

Posted on 01/15/2003 8:48:32 PM PST by Gforce11

Death, terror in N. Korea gulag

A satellite image of the barracks and other facilities of Camp 22 at Haengyong in northeastern North Korea.

Jan. 15 -- NBC's Lisa Myers reports on the horrific accounts emerging from North Korea's prison labor camps.

By Robert Windrem MSNBC

Jan. 15 — In the far north of North Korea, in remote locations not far from the borders with China and Russia, a gulag not unlike the worst labor camps built by Mao and Stalin in the last century holds some 200,000 men, women and children accused of political crimes. A month-long investigation by NBC News, including interviews with former prisoners, guards and U.S. and South Korean officials, revealed the horrifying conditions these people must endure — conditions that shock even those North Koreans accustomed to the near-famine conditions of Kim Jong Il’s realm.

“IT’S ONE of the worst, if not the worst situation — human rights abuse situation — in the world today,” said Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., who held hearings on the camps last year. “There are very few places that could compete with the level of depravity, the harshness of this regime in North Korea toward its own people.” Satellite photos provided by DigitalGlobe confirm the existence of the camps, and interviews with those who have been there and with U.S. officials who study the North suggest Brownback’s assessment may be conservative. Among NBC News’ findings: At one camp, Camp 22 in Haengyong, some 50,000 prisoners toil each day in conditions that U.S. officials and former inmates say results in the death of 20 percent to 25 percent of the prison population every year. Products made by prison laborers may wind up on U.S. store shelves, having been “washed” first through Chinese companies that serve as intermediaries. Entire families, including grandchildren, are incarcerated for even the most bland political statements. Forced abortions are carried out on pregnant women so that another generation of political dissidents will be “eradicated.” Inmates are used as human guinea pigs for testing biological and chemical agents, according to both former inmates and U.S. officials.

• Day 1: Pyongyang's slave labor camps Day 2: U.S. weighs grim options with N. Korea Day 3: Is Uncle Sam still welcome in Seoul? Day 4: Refugees shed light on isolated North

• Day 1: Pyongyang's slave labor camps

• Day 2: U.S. weighs grim options with N. Korea

• Day 3: Is Uncle Sam still welcome in Seoul?

• Day 4: Refugees shed light on isolated North

Efforts by MSNBC.com to reach North Korean officials were unsuccessful. Messages left at the office of North Korea’s permanent representative to the United Nations went unanswered. Eung Soo Han, a press officer at South Korea’s U.N. consulate, said: “It is a very unfortunate situation, and our hearts go out to those who suffer. We hope North Korea will open up its country, and become more actively involved with the international community in order for the North Korean people to be lifted out of their difficult situation.”

LABOR, DEATH, ABUSE NBC’s investigation revealed that North Korea’s State Security Agency maintains a dozen political prisons and about 30 forced labor and labor education camps, mainly in remote areas. The worst are in the country’s far Northeast. Some of them are gargantuan: At least two of the camps, Haengyong and Huaong, are larger in area than the District of Columbia, with Huaong being three times the size of the U.S. capital district. Satellite photos provided by DigitalGlobe show several of the camps, including the notorious Haengyong, for the first time outside official circles. Plainly visible are acres upon acres of barracks, laid out in regimented military style. Surrounding each of them is 10-foot-high barbed-wire fencing along with land mines and man traps. There is even a battery of anti-aircraft guns to prevent a liberation by airborne troops.

Satellite image of the barracks at Haengyong.

Ahn Myong Chol, a guard at the camp (which is sometimes known as Hoeryong) from 1987 through 1994, examined the satellite photos of Camp 22 for NBC News. They were taken in April, eight years after he left. But he says little has changed. He was able to pick out the family quarters for prisoners, the work areas, the propaganda buildings. Looking at the imagery, Ahn noted what happened in each building: “This is the detention center,” he said. “If someone goes inside this building, in three months he will be dead or disabled for life. In this corner they decided about the executions, who to execute and whether to make it public. “This is the Kim Il Sung institute, a movie house for officers. Here is watchdog training. And guard training ground.” Pointing to another spot, he said: “This is the garbage pond where the two kids were killed when guard kicked them in pond.” Another satellite photo shows a coal mine at the Chungbong camp where prisoners are worked to exhaustion in a giant pit. “All of North Korea is a gulag,” said one senior U.S. official, noting that as many as 2 million people have died of starvation while Kim has amassed the world’s largest collection of Daffy Duck cartoons. “It’s just that these people [in the camps] are treated the worst. No one knows for sure how many people are in the camps, but 200,000 is consistent with our best guess. “We don’t have a breakdown, but there are large numbers of both women and children.”

BEYOND THE PALE It is the widespread jailing of political prisoners’ families that makes North Korea unique, according to human rights advocates.

SURVIVORS' TALES

Transcripts of terror • Soon Ok Lee • Kang Chol Hwan • Ahn Myong Chol

NBC News

Under a directive issued by Kim’s father, North Korea’s founder, Kim Il Sung, three generations of a dissident’s family can be jailed simply on the basis of a denunciation. NBC News interviewed two former prisoners and a former guard about conditions in the camps. The three spent their time at different camps. Their litany of camp brutalities is unmatched anywhere in the world, say human rights activists. “Listening to their stories, it’s horrific,” said David Hawk, a veteran human rights campaigner and a consultant for the U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea. Hawk has interviewed many former prisoners in Seoul. “It’s hard to do more than one or two a day because they’re just so painful to hear: horrific mistreatment - all sorts of suffering, beatings to death, executions.”

Kang Chol-Hwan is now a journalist with Chosun Ilbo, South Korea’s most important newspaper. His recent book, “The Aquariums of Pyongyang,” is the first memoir of a North Korean political prisoner. For nearly a decade, he was imprisoned because his grandfather had made complimentary statements about Japanese capitalism. He was a 9-year-old when he arrived at the Yodok camp. His grandfather was never seen again, and prison conditions killed his father. “When I was 10 years old,” Kang recalled, “We were put to work digging clay and constructing a building. And there were dozens of kids, and while digging the ground, it collapsed. And they died. And the bodies were crushed flat. And they buried the kids secretly, without showing their parents, even though the parents came.” The system appears to draw no distinction between those accused of the crime and their family members. Soon Ok Lee, imprisoned for seven years at a camp near Kaechon in Pyungbuk province, described how the female relatives of male prisoners were treated.

“I was in prison from 1987 till January 1993,” she told NBC News in Seoul, where she now lives. ”[The women] were forced to abort their children. They put salty water into the pregnant women’s womb with a large syringe, in order to kill the baby even when the woman was 8 months or 9 months pregnant. “And then, from time to time there a living infant is delivered. And then if someone delivers a live infant, then the guards kick the bloody baby and kill it. And I saw an infant who was crying with pain. I have to express this in words, that I witnessed such an inhumane hell.”

TESTING ON HUMANS Soon also spoke about the use of prisoners as guinea pigs, which a senior U.S. official describes as “very plausible. We have heard similar reports.” “I saw so many poor victims,” she said. “Hundreds of people became victims of biochemical testing. I was imprisoned in 1987 and during the years of 1988 through ’93, when I was released, I saw the research supervisors — they were enjoying the effect of biochemical weapons, effective beyond their expectations — they were saying they were successful.” She tearfully described how in one instance about 50 inmates were taken to an auditorium and given a piece of boiled cabbage to eat. Within a half hour, they began vomiting blood and quickly died. A shot of the enormous Chunbong camp from space. “I saw that in 20 or 30 minutes they died like this in that place. Looking at that scene, I lost my mind. Was this reality or a nightmare? And then I screamed and was sent out of the auditorium.” Prison guard Ahn’s memories are, like the others’, nothing short of gruesome. Every day, he said there were beatings and deaths. “I heard many times that eyeballs were taken out by beating,” he recalled. “And I saw that by beating the person the muscle was damaged and the bone was exposed, outside, and they put salt on the wounded part. At the beginning I was frightened when I witnessed it, but it was repeated again and again, so my feelings were paralyzed.” Moreover, said Ahn, beating and killing prisoners was not only tolerated, it was encouraged and even rewarded. “They trained me not to treat the prisoners as human beings. If someone is against socialism, if someone tries to escape from prison, then kill him,” Ahn said. “If there’s a record of killing any escapee then the guard will be entitled to study in the college. Because of that some guards kill innocent people.”

Newsweek: Bizarre world of women, wine and weapons President Bush told author and Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward last year that he was well aware of the camps and the atrocities. That, officials say, partly explains why Bush insisted on North Korea’s inclusion in the “axis of evil” in his 2002 State of the Union address. “I loathe Kim Jong Il,” Bush told Woodward during an interview for the author’s book “Bush at War.” “I’ve got a visceral reaction to this guy because he is starving his people. And I have seen intelligence of these prison camps — they’re huge — that he uses to break up families and to torture people.” Brownback, a senator with a reputation as a human rights advocate, thinks that the prison camps and abuses have for too long taken a back seat to nuclear arms and other Korean issues. “It seems that what happened is that there got to be a complex set of issues, and people said, ‘Well OK, it’s about our relationship with China, it’s about the Korean Peninsula, it’s about this militaristic regime in North Korea that we don’t want to press too much because they may march across the border into South Korea.” Brownback says the North’s nuclear program, its missile tests and generally unpredictable behavior has blurred a critical issue: “I think people just got paralyzed to really put a focus on the human face of this suffering,” he said.

Lisa Myers, Rich Gardella and Judy Augsberger of NBC News and Michael Moran of MSNBC.com contributed to this report.

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There were some satellite pictures for this article at this link. http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp?vts=011520032030

I wasn't sure how to post pictures during an article post, so check out the link.

1 posted on 01/15/2003 8:48:32 PM PST by Gforce11
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2 posted on 01/15/2003 8:50:43 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Gforce11
Assuming this is true (200,000 in the camp) then the Nikkies (North Koreans -- yes I feel free to slur them now) have created a heck of an "issue" in their rear. In event of war, I'd say we should do holding actions and counterattacks along the DMZ, amphib invasion on one coast, and set a couple of divisions down RIGHT ON TOP of this camp and hand out guns to the people. Let them go track down, one by one, everybody who had a part in sentencing their families to languish there.

No matter how many troop-carrying trucks and petrol stores these guys have, they'd have a hell of a time moving people around enough to defend against a three pronged attack. Most of their training is oriented around heading as one force straight south (except for the commandos who would infiltrate ahead of time and commit assassinations and sabotage).

Also keep ethnic Korean U.S. soldiers in the area for ad hoc task forces to create trouble in the Korean area of China along the river to stir up trouble if the ChiComs get the idea to join in the dance once again. Presumably the ROKs also have people that could do this if they were willing.

3 posted on 01/15/2003 9:01:33 PM PST by American Soldier
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To: Gforce11
I wasn't sure how to post pictures during an article post
4 posted on 01/15/2003 9:04:39 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (Ive got a tag line around here somewhere...)
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To: Gforce11
A slave camp? How long till Wal-Mart and other American companies beat a path to this untaped source of labor?
5 posted on 01/15/2003 9:06:41 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: American Soldier
The link also has a video, check that out. Supposedly its shown for the first time on American TV about these camps.


Here it is again.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp?vts=011520032055

Very distrubing...and history repeats itself. My theory is that all the pieces for WWIII are falling into place. We fight a much different enemy obviously. What do ya guys think?
6 posted on 01/15/2003 9:13:38 PM PST by Gforce11
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To: Gforce11
Gee a Slave/exterminiation camp run by commies.....I'm speechless. Someone tell Streistrand quick so she can refute this vicious rumor. After all everyone knows only Americans are evil.
7 posted on 01/15/2003 9:17:06 PM PST by Leto
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To: Gforce11
Don't worry, Noam Chomsky and the fine humanitarians of the Left will be on the case in a minute, denouncing the outrage! The human rights abuses! The barbarity!

...

[crickets]
8 posted on 01/15/2003 9:26:15 PM PST by tictoc
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To: tictoc
Now, now. Just give them some time. They are, more than likely, still in bed...

9 posted on 01/15/2003 9:33:18 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: Gforce11
When articles like this start coming out from major media sources, it usually means we are planning to attack the mentioned country. N. Korea and Iraq at the same time?
10 posted on 01/15/2003 9:36:43 PM PST by DBtoo
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To: Gforce11
If someone is against socialism, if someone tries to escape from prison, then kill him,” Ahn said

Says it all.

11 posted on 01/15/2003 9:46:57 PM PST by paltz
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To: DBtoo
hmmm....
12 posted on 01/15/2003 9:49:09 PM PST by paltz
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To: Gforce11
In other words, Pres. Bush was right to list No. Korea as part of an "axis of evil." Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, the libs will finally realize that he knows what he's talking about? I'm not holding my breath though.
13 posted on 01/15/2003 10:15:13 PM PST by mom3boys
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>>> How long till Wal-Mart and other American companies beat a path to this untaped source of labor?

Already are per MSNBC report: " ...Products made by prison laborers may wind up on U.S. store shelves, having been “washed” first through Chinese companies that serve as intermediaries..."

sounds plausible......the commies/Nikkies will do anything for a buck...

MSNBC also reports: “..IT’S ONE of the worst, if not the worst situation — human rights abuse situation — in the world today,” said Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., who held hearings on the camps last year. “There are very few places that could compete with the level of depravity, the harshness of this regime in North Korea toward its own people...”

I can't remember read/hearing about that from out press...

http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp?0cv=CA01

14 posted on 01/15/2003 11:49:23 PM PST by all_mighty_dollar
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To: Gforce11
Why We Fight.
15 posted on 01/15/2003 11:50:57 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Leto
Damn Truman should've listened to McArthur and let him finish the job.
16 posted on 01/15/2003 11:51:35 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Gforce11
It's a different war, but the Enemy is the same.

Regards,

L

17 posted on 01/15/2003 11:54:53 PM PST by Lurker (One is either free or not free. You pick.)
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To: dfwgator; Matthew James; harpseal; Jeff Head; Squantos
Communist Death Camps.

Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot and Ceaucescu are high fiving in hell.

18 posted on 01/15/2003 11:59:02 PM PST by Travis McGee (Go out and BLOAT.)
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To: dfwgator
"Damn Truman should've listened to McArthur and let him finish the job."

Ironically, the same unfinished business we lament in 50's Korea and 90's Iraq, is nothing new.

Several thousand years ago, the Hebrews were given explicit orders - by God -to wipe out all the enemies in the land we now call Israel. Because they didn't, the largest powderkeg the world has ever known may yet blow up in all our faces, and yet there are those in this country who, while they decry our lack of resolve in finishing our own wars worldwide, nevertheless denounce Israel in its efforts to do the same.

Some evils should simply not be allowed to exist. Anywhere.

Islam and Marxism are two sides of the same evil, barbaric coin.

P.S. Been a long time. How y'all doing? :)

19 posted on 01/16/2003 12:47:03 AM PST by Stingray
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To: DBtoo
Just watch the "History Channel" to see who we come to blows with next! Reminds me of Rumsfeld who recently said: "..we fight, we win". He was saying the way the world is now and the way our military is, we are at a singular point in time that if we are called on to fight, even if in more than one spot - we win. I believe that to be true if our military is called on to fight with a real purpose and a real enemy, and "at a time of our choosing" as Bush would say.

20 posted on 01/16/2003 1:15:24 AM PST by geopyg
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