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Thousands of S Korean Christians rally to support US
Times of India ^ | SATURDAY, JANUARY 11, 2003 03:45:33 PM

Posted on 01/12/2003 7:17:10 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin

SEOUL: Pleading to God for peace on the divided Korean Peninsula, 30,000 Christians rallied Saturday to support the US military presence in South Korea and condemn North Korea's suspected nuclear weapons program.

"Lord, we need US troops," chanted the crowd, predominantly Protestant churchgoers, at the plaza before Seoul City Hall. "God, please help North Korea repent and stop developing nuclear weapons."

Participants waved small South Korean flags and let loose thousands of green balloons into the overcast winter sky, shouting "Hallelujah!" Some held US flags.

During a prayer blaring from loudspeakers, pastor Kil Ja-yeon asked God to keep US troops in South Korea to deter communist North Korea, and thousands of followers jumped up and down chanting fervently, "My Lord, My Lord."

The unusual pro-US street demonstration, organized by the General Association of Christian Organizations, a major Christian umbrella group, came amid rising international tension over North Korea's withdrawal Friday from the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, a global nuclear arms control pact.

The communist North surprised the world in December by deciding to restart nuclear facilities that were frozen under a deal with the United States in 1994.

Organisers of Saturday's demonstration warned that widespread anti-American sentiment in South Korea might lead to the withdrawal of US troops and endanger the country's security.

"Weird and funny! I have never seen anything like this," said Kim Myong-ho, 22, a college student who believes the US military should be withdrawn to ease tensions with North Korea.

But Moon Jong-won, 55, who participated in Saturday's rally, worried that young South Koreans failed to understand the North Korean threat.

"This is not a time for anti-American protests, but a time for an anti-North Korea and pro-peace movement," he said.

Demonstrators held signs reading: "We oppose the anti-American movement" or "Lord, give North Korea real political change."

The rally was in contrast with a recent series of anti-US street demonstrations by tens of thousands of activists protesting the deaths in June of two South Korean teenage girls struck by a US military vehicle.

Two US soldiers in the vehicle were acquitted of negligent homicide charges in US military courts in November. That touched off candlelight vigils by South Koreans. Activists have used the vigils to demand an end to the US military presence in South Korea.

Most South Koreans support a US military presence, but many also complain about crimes involving US soldiers.

Demonstrators on Saturday demanded that a legal code with the United States be revised to give South Korea more jurisdiction over US troops, but opposed the candlelight vigils.

"We should not do things that hurt Americans' sentiment, especially at times like this," said Chung Jin-kyong, 34.

About 37,000 US troops are stationed in South Korea, a legacy of the 1950-53 Korean War.


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To: American Soldier
ooops....forgive the tagline.

I'm not use to doing taglines, and didn't realize I'd left it on.
It was leftover from some other post, and really doesn't spply to this Thread.

21 posted on 01/13/2003 4:56:53 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: DeaconBenjamin
"Weird and funny! I have never seen anything like this," said Kim Myong-ho, 22, a college student who believes the US military should be withdrawn to ease tensions with North Korea.

Liberal public school-type kid.

But Moon Jong-won, 55, who participated in Saturday's rally, worried that young South Koreans failed to understand the North Korean threat.

Wise conservative teaching the liberal public school-type kid to actually think ! It's a new concept to that type of mentality.

22 posted on 01/13/2003 4:57:49 AM PST by concerned about politics (Achievement is politically incorrect.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
I think it's a mistake to judge public opinion based upon the turnout at protests. It seems only people dissatisfied with the status quo turn out to protest. Why protest what you already have? I think a lot of South Koreans want the USA around, despite the huge anti-American protests. Look at the difference in turnouts in the USA between pro- and anti- Bush supporters. Anti-Bush supporters draw huge crowds, but they're opinion is still in the minority. Plus, there is not a history of protest amongst conservatives - they are too busy spending time on jobs and family.
23 posted on 01/13/2003 5:05:43 AM PST by Toskrin
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To: Texas_Jarhead
well Hallelujah!

Ditto. Our church's senior associate pastor, a Korean American, is serving in South Korea right now. The Korean Christians have a passion for missionary work, and a zeal for going places where white boys like me are not welcome (Mongolia, the world of Islam ...).

24 posted on 01/13/2003 5:15:54 AM PST by TomSmedley
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To: Toskrin
Plus, there is not a history of protest amongst conservatives - they are too busy spending time on jobs and family.

Yep. The left has nothing better to do. "Idle hands lead to Satan."

25 posted on 01/13/2003 5:23:06 AM PST by concerned about politics (Achievement is politically incorrect.)
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To: fortheDeclaration; winstonchurchill; ShadowAce; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; ...
Korean Christian bump

Wonderful believers I met while there.

Most of them, incidentally, are presbyterian.
26 posted on 01/13/2003 5:40:33 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
Thanks for the ping.

Amen,.......More Grace and Mercy,.........In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!

27 posted on 01/13/2003 5:58:40 AM PST by maestro
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To: maro
The anti-Americanism is due to many factors: nationalism; a Stockholm Syndrome desire to ingratiate oneself with the people who could kill you; and the influence of many Communist agents in the universities and media.

Additional factors (according to various service people I've talked to who were stationed there) include:

Racism: The approximate level is comparable to Mississippi in the 50s, one guy told me. Even some S Koreans who fear the North nevertheless feel resentment at racially inferior "big noses" (i.e. Americans) shameing, dominating, or in any manner appearing superior to any ethnic Koreans, including North Koreans.

Emotionalism: You see this even the pro-American protest described above. Koreans seem to enjoy getting "worked up." They go to protests like we go for an afternoon in the park. It's treated almost as entertainment.

28 posted on 01/13/2003 6:05:25 AM PST by Stultis
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To: concerned about politics
Regarding the foolishness of youth, among the greatest novels of all time is Ivan Tergenev's "Fathers and Sons". It dissects the mid-19th Century youth movement and its desire for radical change. Tergenev did not live long enough to see it, but he sensed that the so-called "liberal" movement in Russia would open the door to the socialist radicals. It did, and the mind-set of the student population assisted that metamorphosis.

In case you think it couldn't happen here, it did. In the 1960s.

29 posted on 01/13/2003 10:51:31 AM PST by gaspar
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To: Dubya
You must be kidding! The N Koreans have 2 million people starving - do you think your not buying their products will change that ...??

And ... why are you punishing S Korea ...??
30 posted on 01/13/2003 11:08:23 AM PST by CyberAnt (Syracuse where are you?)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
I'll make a few observations:

(1) As I've pointed out on other threads, the liberally-biased Korean press has reported crowds of "more than 3,000" protestors outside the US embassy in Seoul. Given the fact that 11 million people live in the Seoul area, including tens of thousands of student leftists, these anti-American demonstrations have pathetic turnouts if their journalistic supporters aren't able to lie the numbers past 3K.

(2) The Times of India has no pro-American bias, and it reports that ten times as many Koreans came out to support the US.

(3) The socialist Roh was not elected on an anti-American platform but on a platform of (a) promising the same Socialistic garbage that wins elections during recessions and (b) a "pity the poor North Koreans" stance where the need for "healing" was emphasized over security.

31 posted on 01/13/2003 12:15:38 PM PST by wideawake
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To: cookcounty
Not surprising given that Paul Yonggi Cho has an amazing prayer ministry there. He has a church of over 35,000 Christian believers. Go South Korean Christians, go!!!
32 posted on 01/13/2003 12:44:15 PM PST by Marysecretary
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To: TomSmedley
Our pastor and another Christian from India go to Mongolia often. It's quite a ministry. Not too many missionaries go there. You really need to keep a low profile, but it's possible. If we had gone many years ago, when Mongolia was open to having Christians come, it would't be the way it is now. Too bad we didn't heed the call.
33 posted on 01/13/2003 12:49:31 PM PST by Marysecretary
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To: DeaconBenjamin; All
They Don't Like Us

I'm passing this one that ProudEagle posted on. Hope everyone will do the same.

34 posted on 01/13/2003 7:16:46 PM PST by Dubya
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To: Guenevere
"Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see this Pro-American, anti North Korea rally anywhere on TV." No, but you can be sure that the next crime committed by a US solider in SK will make front page news.
35 posted on 01/13/2003 7:27:13 PM PST by TBall
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To: Marysecretary
From Biblical Discernment Series 5/93

"Cho's teachings are an idolatrous mix of a little Biblical teaching with a lot of occult healing, prophesying, visualization, sorcery, and pagan mind techniques. Cho teaches that Christians can get anything they want by calling upon the spirit world in the 'fourth dimension' and envisioning (visualizing) their felt needs, no matter how crass and gross. Cho teaches that positive thinking, positive speaking, and positive visualization are the keys to success, and that anyone can literally 'incubate' and give birth to physical reality by creating a vivid image in his or her mind and focusing upon it....

Cho's teaching is a system of mind over matter (or rather, imagination over matter). He frankly admits that it is a Christianized version of precisely the same methods practiced by Buddhists, exponents of yoga, and the followers of other pagan, mystical, and occult systems. The only difference is that their fourth-dimensional power receives co-operation from the devil, while that of Christians supposedly receives help from the Holy Spirit."

At best, this is a self generating, rigid, fixed, psychotic, delusional system with a heavy reliance on magical thinking. At the worst, it is diabolical heresy, as God is, once again, reduced to a mere conjurer, pulling rabbits out of hats.

36 posted on 01/14/2003 8:09:06 AM PST by Mortimer Snavely (Is anyone else tired of reading these tag lines?)
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To: Mortimer Snavely
If that's true, I'm sorry to hear that. He has a lot of followers.
37 posted on 01/14/2003 8:29:10 AM PST by Marysecretary
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