Posted on 01/10/2003 7:44:35 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:39:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
About one-third of the total adult population
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He's bound to find some prime courtin' material there!
I disagree. Most girls I know today are raised to go to college and pursue a career, usually all the way through a professional degree program, not grow up and get married and have kids. Of course, maybe I just hang out with the well educated gang. There is no way I could find time to date with a legal career. Good thing I am already married.
In any event, there is nothing wrong with wanting an advanced degree and a profession. That doesn't make you part of the NOW gang.
Men do not need women only if they're okay with spending every Saturday night with a skin magazine. Alternately, a man could always hire a hooker, or take hormone shots. Failing these alternatives, you gentlemen do need women. And without women, without the companionship we bring you and the loving children we give you, you will have a very lonely old age. Good luck with it.
Some of us aren't interested in the money, Mulder. Some of us make enough on our own. ;-)
This idiot preacher says these things and the author of this article quotes him, and then they whine about men not wanting to go to church anymore. If God hates me so much that He won't let me have someone who is desirable, then He shouldn't be surprised when I don't come to church anymore.
I can never resist these threads because while most of this person's words are stupid, the problem that she raises is real. We have reached a point in this country where it is very difficult to meet quality single people. It's a problem for both men and women, and it's a problem that seems to apply to people in many age ranges.
I'm 39 and have never been married. I spent my young adult years in conservative evangelical and Pentecostal churches. I met some nice women when I was in college, but a match was just never there. To be honest, I didn't have what it took to impress them at that time, and they didn't see to a time when I would be more accomplished. Furthermore, dating in the church was awkward. The truth is that the church was very negative towards dating, courting, or whatever term was currently popular. The church liked to pretend that we should be too dedicated to God to think about those things. Of course, everyone thought about them constantly and just pretended otherwise. The fact that I was never good at this duplicity made the situation more difficult for me.
Since leaving college, I've only rarely met anyone who was even single much less single and compatible. I've never done the bar scene because it just didn't appeal to me. I tried joining some hiking and volleyball clubs. I had fun, but I never met any single women. In more recent years, I've volunteered for many political campaigns. I feel good about the efforts that I made for strong conservative candidates, but I never met any single women. I tried the health club scene once, but I think most people are now seeing that health clubs were always overrated as places to meet people. I tried the adult education routine once and should probably try again. I just wasn't that encouraged about it.
Where do we go to meet single people? I just don't know, but I agree that finding people is extremely difficult. Finding someone and feeling anything whatsoever for her is even more difficult. Finding someone for whom I feel something who can return my feelings has so far been impossible.
WFTR
Bill
Actually, I spend most Saturday nights on Free Republic. It costs less; it's more interesting; and in today's social environment, it's more shocking to most people.
Joking aside, I agree with your comments. I greatly regret the mistakes, the bad strategy, the bad advice, and the bad luck that have left me single.
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Bill
My biggest complaint with where our society has arrived is that it is hard to meet people anymore. Maybe I don't have anything to offer, but I rarely find a single woman to give an opportunity to make that judgment fairly. I don't know where I could go to meet women in a situation that would allow us to get to know one another in a positive way. The "cold sell" in a supermarket or other public place is a bad gamble. I can understand her not wanting to allow a complete stranger to know anything about her, and I have to wonder about the wisdom of a woman who would give a guy her number in that situation. I've had very bad luck in churches and generally found that they are oriented towards people sitting in the same room listening to a preacher and not to people being around one another and hearing one another speak in a way that builds friendships. I don't think health clubs were ever great places to meet people. The list of things that were supposed to work but didn't goes on and on. The problem is not just for me. I've had many friends who had the same problem.
If recognizing that meeting people is difficult these days makes me not a conservative in your eyes, so be it. I've had so many people tell me that I can't be a conservative because I don't agree with them on some issue that I find it hard to care anymore. However, I will continue to recognize the problem.
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Bill
The people of this country have lied to, cheated, and manipulated by some of the most destructive people America ever bred: Hugh Hefner, Gloria Steinem, Bette Friedan, and their partners in crime.
What was the crime? They persuaded Americans that women would be most happy and fulfilled if we would spread our legs, have sex in the same thoughtless, get-your-rocks-off, uncommitted manner men want (or think they want), abort any babies that resulted, and cohabit instead of insisting on marriage. We were to devote all our energies to our careers instead of nurturing our families. We were to denigrate men and maleness, to marginalize the contributions of men, and to show them that we don't need them. We believed all this. We were very stupid, very weak.
The result, as we all now know, was that a lot of people were encouraged to obsess about themselves, which does not lead to happiness for anybody. Women found themselves lonely, unloved, and bewildered that all that wild sex did not make them happy. The grand career turned out to be not so grand, and certainly didn't offer much satisfaction when the career woman had to face old age alone. Men knew they didn't have to buy the cow, so to speak, but all the free sex didn't make them happy for more than a few hours at a time, either. They were angry, embittered, and filled with contempt toward women--a contempt that is so much in evidence on this website, which is populated with men who seem to despise women. They refuse to marry, and everyone is left lonely and frustrated.
So what's the solution? For this generation, there may not be one. There are some problems for which there is no immediate solution. But as far as I can see, the only solution for the next generations can only come if women acquire some self-respect and PUT THEIR LEGS TOGETHER. Women, you have all GOT to stop putting out for men who offer you dinner or pretend love for an evening! How can you respect yourselves, how can you expect men to cherish, admire, respect, even adore you, if you behave like goats? Why would any man marry if he knows he can get all the free unencumbered sex he wants without having to make any commitment? You can never get a man to love you by giving him sex, and you cannot manipulate him into marriage that way, either.
And as for you men: Nopardons sure has you nailed. What a bunch of whiners have posted on this thread! Listen, you men aren't the only ones who suffer during a divorce. No one walks out of divorce court laughing, and while you complain about how tough you have it, know that the wives you abandoned, or the wives who left you when your behavior became unendurable, have spent their nights of agony too, and now have to struggle to raise your children. If you're not married and you're worried about whether some woman is going to clean you out in court, here's a suggestion: don't marry the sort of woman who would do that. Marry a true lady, a person of emotional strength, deeply-held Christian or Jewish faith, profound integrity, grace, moral and physical courage, sweetness of spirit, and unshakeable virtue. Do not marry a woman because she's cute, or pretty, or fun, or because you like going to the same movies, or because she gives great head. Love someone who is noble, serene, just, and generous. You, of course, must be worthy of this paragon yourself, and apply yourself to becoming so. Whining about how icky church and how uncomfortable the pastor's message is does not indicate that you are either mature, humble, or committed to self-improvement so that you would even be worthy of a fine woman.
We have been fools, ladies and gentlemen. We have believed the most transparent lies of the Left. We have helped those who hate this country and want to destroy our society. The only way to fight them is to become people of such courage and virtue that they cannot stand up to us.
I think you are confusing celebrity, wealth, and status with class.
Don't you have friends, who have friewnds, and you all get together ? A good way to meet people, is at the home of a friend. Sometimes work is a good place; though that has risks. Adult Ed classes ( especially in subjects that you're interested in ! ) is another place to meet people with like interests.
I was saying that men ( it's usually men here ), who post reply after reply, on thread after thread, about how awful women are, how terrible marriage is, how they won't ever marry anyone, come off as spoiled ninnies and certainly NOT Conservative. Since you haven't said that you want the milk, without buying the cow, my comment doesn't apply to you.
I was serious , when I postulated that those guys have very little to offer a woman; let alone a " good " woman. I know that most threads like this one, have posts claiming that girls / women only want " bad boys " ; but, I know many young women who don't. They want interesting, kind men, who will treat them well, and hopefully marry them.
I wish that I could be of more help, but it's really up to YOU . :-)
Silly woman.
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