Posted on 12/18/2002 12:49:36 AM PST by Mensch
On the evening of Dec. 15, in the Upper East Side apartment of Democratic donor Sally Minard, Hillary Clinton rose to address a crowd of about 50 supporters. Mrs. Clinton began with an anecdote about a meeting earlier that evening with her longtime nemesis, Rush Limbaugh, according to people in attendance.
Mrs. Clinton recounted that she had been at a wedding in Brooklyn, where she was introduced to Mr. Limbaugh by the brides father, Jewish activist Malcolm Hoenlein. Mr. Limbaugh informed her that he owed her an apology. Where, she wondered, would he begin?
A laugh arose from the audience, which included media executive John Sykes, political power couple Sarah and Victor Kovner, fund-raiser Barbaralee Diamonstein-Spielvogel, and long-time friend-of-the-Clintons Susan Thomases. Mr. Limbaughs apology, it turned out, was for talking about Mrs. Clintons daughter, Chelsea, on his show. She accepted.
Then Mrs. Clinton got down to business. She expressed "hope" that she would be named after the New Year as chairman of the Senate Steering Committeea party-leadership role that will afford her greater involvement in helping to shape the Democratic attack on the G.O.P. leading up to 2004. In reality, Mrs. Clinton is all but certain to get the gig, and her impending appointment is common knowledge. But it has yet to be formally announced, and she has been careful to avoid public discussion of her role.
Here among friends, however, Mrs. Clinton began to demonstrate some of the ways in which she plans to use her new position. Speaking forcefully, she criticized Democrats for their lack of organization and urged them instead to follow the example of conservative strategist Grover Norquist, whose weekly strategy sessions, she said, produced material for right-leaning commentators such as Fox personalities Sean Hannity and Bill OReilly.
"She talked about the need to do something about the fact that the Democrats werent getting out a coherent message," said one attendee. "She said the Democrats needed to improve their research and polling, and used the [outgoing Georgia Senator Max] Cleland race as an example of the Republicans being more effective at it."
Mrs. Clinton also echoed recent statements by former Vice President Al Gore and her husband, lamenting the lack of an effective Democratic response to what she described as the dissemination of Republican talking points to sympathetic members of the media. "She talked about Grover Norquist having weekly meetings with other conservatives, coming up with talking points, and getting them picked up by Hannity and OReilly and others," said the attendee. "She was almost admiringshe thinks that Democrats should do the same thing."
Mrs. Clinton also said that she would be able to play a bigger role in producing the Democratic response, and that she hoped a confirmation of the position would come through within the next few days.
Mrs. Clintons role in the party leadership will represent something of a departure from her first two years in office, during which time she took pains not to upstage her Senate colleagues, even as she quietly helped candidates across the country with her unparalleled fund-raising ability. As head of the Steering Committee, shell take on a greater public role in shaping the Democrats message by helping other Senators coordinate press events, formulate legislative strategy and do constituent outreach to core supporters.
"This will definitely give her even more of a platform than she already has," said Democratic Congressman Anthony Weiner of Brooklyn. "She came in as sort of the outside celebrity Senator, but now, as head of Steering, shes also going to be a spokesman for her colleagues."
Clinton spokeswoman Karen Dunn declined to comment on any specific aspect of the story, but said: "Senator Clinton has always spoken with her colleagues, supporters and others in the Democratic Party about ways to advance New York States interests by promoting progressive policies." Mr. Limbaugh, through a spokesman, declined to comment on his meeting with Mrs. Clinton. A Fox spokesman declined to comment.
A Logical Choice
In many ways, Mrs. Clinton is a logical choice for the leadership post, which is being relinquished by John Kerry as he prepares for his 2004 Presidential run. She is Americas most recognizable Senator. Thanks to her deferential conduct and financial generosity, she has developed excellent relations with her Democratic colleagues. And she has improved her own communications skills so much since the days of the "listening tour" that she has come to be regarded as one of the Senates most effective advocates for Democratic causes.
And, of course, for all her affable displays of bipartisanship since becoming a Senator, Mrs. Clinton is no stranger to ideological battle. Few will forget that it was she who decried a "vast right-wing conspiracy" at the height of impeachment proceedings against her husband, after which she campaigned to great effect across the country against many of Mr. Clintons Republican tormentors.
Mr. Weiner predicted that she would play an aggressive role in helping the party do battle for the hearts and minds of the American electorate. "I think she is a practitioner of the recently articulated Bill Clinton doctrine of being strong on defense and supportive of the President on foreign affairs, and hit em in the muscle on everything else," Mr. Weiner said. "I think she learned firsthand the importance of hand-to-hand media combat, and I think she also served in an administration in the 90s that was masterful in using media to win. Weve been losing these battles ever since Bill Clinton left the White House."
The real question is whether Mrs. Clinton will be able to change that losing dynamic. Mr. Norquist, the head of Americans for Tax Reform, said that Mrs. Clinton was rightsort ofabout the effectiveness of his organization. "We have a meeting with 115 people each Wednesday," he said. "It includes conservative journalists, people from government, people from the Republican Party, people from the various active parts of the coalitionand you just want to make sure that everyone knows what everyone else is doing. Its not quite as formulaic as she would imagine. Its Were working on thisI wanted you to know about it, and the writers in the room say, Oh, thats interesting, and then they write about it. Its not some set of talking points; its that people internalize the points."
But Mr. Norquist doubted that Mrs. Clintonor anyonewould be able to have a comparable impact for the Democrats.
"We are complimented that she would make that observation, but reasonably confident that the left cant do what we do, because their coalition is structured differently than ours," he said. "When I put together 115 people at our Wednesday meeting, we have the gun people and the tax people and the home-schoolers and the various communities of faith, and everyone just wants to be left alone. So we can be friends, because as long as the Christians dont steal anyones guns, and the property owners dont throw condoms at the Christians kids, we can all be friends. Our coalition doesnt want anything at anyones expense.
"The left," Mr. Norquist continued, "is a collection of competing parasites: the labor unions, the trial lawyers, the big-city political machines, the people who are locked into welfare dependency
. They are not friends; they are competitors for divvying up the assets that the state organizes. Theyll never be able to work together as cheerfully as we do."
Interesting.
Recounted huh? Like you can believe that supercilious witch.
My dinner just arose from my stomach.
She's getting ready to make her hustle. In leaving the position he will have left Hillary the center of attention and she will undercut him if she wants the nomination.
As a New Yorker, this makes me want to vomit. Send your money to a party that doesn't want to fight back against terrorism. New York City is a prime target for attacks, which could wipe out a good portion of Manhattan, if not more. Sally Minard should hope that she's in the Hamptons when the next attack could possibly wipe out a good chunk of the Upper East Side.
It must have been right after the ex-potus recounted how Newt Gingrich admitted that Republicans lied about him because if we told the truth we'd never win anything.
The media calls it a logical choice... hmmmm.
Dems been losing after the rapist left the Whitehouse... hmmmm.
Get ready guys & gals... this Evita Peron wannabe is thinking 2004!
Mrs. Clinton again said that she and her husband had talked about all the rumors, allegations and innuendoes involving her husband.
One day after Mrs. Clinton blamed the sex allegations against her husband on a "vast right-wing conspiracy" to undo the results of two elections, the first lady cited a saying often quoted by her husband.
"One of my husband's favorite old Southern sayings... is that if you find a turtle on a fence post, it didn't get there by accident," Mrs. Clinton said.
"And I just look at the landscape around here and I see lots of big old turtles sitting on lots of fenceposts. I think we need to find out how those old turtles got on those fenceposts," she added.
"The left," Mr. Norquist continued, "is a collection of competing parasites: the labor unions, the trial lawyers, the big-city political machines, the people who are locked into welfare dependency . They are not friends; they are competitors for divvying up the assets that the state organizes. Theyll never be able to work together as cheerfully as we do."
As perfect a description of the Left as I have seen in some time.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
THIS is the scary part a lot of people around here (including me) have been predicting re: the Hildabeast's influence over the Democraps over the years.
As opposed to the former doctrine of the Clinton co-presidency, which includes the pardoning of FALN terrorists for votes. Hitlery apparently thinks that everyone in the country has a memory as selective as her own.
OK .. What was the point of brining this up??
Not likely. When most Jews are given the choice between leftist politics and the survival of the Jewish homeland, they'll invariably choose leftist politics. Read David Horowitz' "The Politics of Bad Faith" for an explanation.
Down Rush went, down into the dark hole dug oh so cleverly by
the Divine Ms. H...
Sputtered Rush, Oh so sorry for being mean to your daughter
as Hillary licked her chops.
Got ya.
Another Conservative Bites the Dust.
Pray for Rush that he can be saved from
the HILLARY HEX before it's TOO LATE!
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