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What Lott Might Have Said
Lew Rockwell ^ | 12-13-02 | Larry Pratt

Posted on 12/13/2002 6:32:01 AM PST by Dick Bachert

[I do not contend that Lott believes what follows, and neither do I contend that by saying it, he would somehow save his neck. I offer it only as a mental experiment in truth telling. LHR]

My critics say that my comments – regretting the presidential loss of the Dixiecrats in 1948 – reflect a racial bias against blacks, because the States' Rights Party endorsed the right of states to preserve segregation at the state level. In fact, the real issue is not race; it is freedom and federalism, concepts which are apparently not understood by the national press or by my critics left and right.

I grant that my comments were highly unusual in American public life. Even more intense than the race taboo is the rule against expressing any regret for the astonishing centralization of power in America since World War II. Question that, and you will have few friends, and legions of opportunistic enemies. Such is the fate of any dissident living under Leviathan.

Federalism is the essential genius of the American republican system of government, its great contribution to the modern political experience, as Lord Acton noted. In American law, federalism is guaranteed by the enumerated powers in the Constitution, which restrict the federal government to only a few functions while leaving the rest to the states and the people, as the 10th amendment says.

In the American lexicon, federalism is the same as the Jeffersonian phrase "states' rights," which means that the states as legal entities are to have rights against the federal government. In this way, America was different from Prussia or any other nation-state of the old world that had a unitary state apparatus. American federalism was the embodiment of political tolerance and decentralization – the expression of the liberal conviction that society can manage itself and needs no central plan.

No, this does not lead to perfection. It does restrain power, and permits flexibility and competition among legal regimes. It is this very flexibility that would have best handled the issue of race relations in the period after World War II. As for segregation, if anyone believes that the states could have successfully preserved legal segregation, he knows nothing about the South or American politics. Segregation was on its way out in 1948 – already under fire in state legislatures and towns – and would have been repealed peacefully and constitutionally, in time, and without the antagonisms that always accompany political impositions.

Most Southerners, however, understood that the federal government wanted to do more than end legally sponsored segregation. They understood that the federal government wanted to take charge of their schools and communities, not only ending legal segregation but also managing their lives by prohibiting voluntary choice in the exercise of private property rights. This is what they predicted and this is what occurred.

Let's not forget, too, that the South was put through a cruel "Reconstruction" after the Civil War; less than a hundred years earlier, the right of self-government was taken from the South and military governments were installed. All people everywhere resent imperial government intrusion, but Southerners can speak with experience on the question.

Instead of allowing segregation to fade away, the federal government got involved in the business of regulating the states and created a very ugly backlash in the South. This tragic error has resulted in unnecessary racial conflict and the consolidation of federal power. This has not been helpful to American race relations, and it has taken away essential freedoms and property rights from all Americans.

Today we see every manner of socialistic meddling imposed on the states, not just in the South but on all states and against all businesses and schools and neighborhoods. The assumption is that DC managers know better how to bring about social cooperation than people themselves, and that people cannot be trusted in their daily lives to treat each other humanely. Instead, we are told, they need inhumane bureaucracies to tell communities how to run their schools, businesspeople who to hire and who not to fire, cities how much public housing to build and how much to distribute by way of welfare dollars.

Would the country have been better off had the Dixiecrats won in 1948? Of course this is conjectural history, and I was wrong to imply that we can know the answer with certainty. If Thurmond's party had behaved the way the Democrats and Republicans typically have – betraying election promises in favor of building the welfare-warfare state – the party might not have made any difference at all.

However, we can say that the country would have been far better off by preserving freedom and federalism rather than by fastening on it a managerial regime that intrudes itself into every aspect of public and private life, often in the name of quelling racial conflict but in fact only creating more.

Let me finally say that in Mississippi, we have plenty of racial conflict, and I hope and pray for an end to it. But it is not comparable to the suspicion and anger that dominate race relations in Washington, DC, a place where the racial divide is obvious to anyone with eyes to see. Right here in Washington, the home of the people who claim they know what is best for everyone in the country and the world, crime and poverty are higher and the races can't manage the everyday civilities that Southerners take for granted.

Therefore, I apologize for any misunderstanding my remarks created, owing to the lack of historical understanding of our nation's press corps and punditry class. But I do not apologize for being a defender of freedom, federalism, and the Constitution, and for being an opponent of the Leviathan state, which uses any excuse, including race, to trample on the essential rights of all.

Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. [send him mail] is president of the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama, and editor of LewRockwell.com.

Copyright © 2002 LewRockwell.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: federalism; lott; race; statesrights
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Another perspective on the Lott flap...
1 posted on 12/13/2002 6:32:01 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
LARRY PRATT DID NOT AUTHOR THIS PIECE (although he COULD have). Lew Rockwell did.

Just washed my mouse and can't do a THING with it...

Sorry!!

2 posted on 12/13/2002 6:33:32 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
The Dixiecrats did not separate themselves from the Democrats in 1948 based upon federalism, national defense, fiscal policy or union vs. corporate matters. Their platform was segregation. Period.



And this is what Thurmond said in a nationwide radio address on the eve of the 1948 election:

"Don't forget the so-called civil rights program would bring about the end of segregation in the South, forcing mixing of the races in our hotels, in our restaurants, in our schools, in our swimming pools and in all public places. This change in our customs is not desired by either the white or the colored race."


Remember these great words from the platform that Lott said would have changed this county for the good:

(From the Dixiecrat ballot, with Strom at the top of the ticket)

REMEMBER

A vote for Truman electors is a direct order to our Congressmen and Senators from Mississippi to vote for passage of Truman’s so-called civil-rights program in the next Congress. This means the vicious FEPC-anti poll tax-anti-lynching and anti-segregation proposals will become the law of the land and our way of life in the South will be gone forever.

See actual ballot:

I am awful at posting this stuff, but please go here and see Post 307. It is the Dixiecrat ballot.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/805214/posts?q=1&&page=301

3 posted on 12/13/2002 6:35:49 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Dick Bachert
I see the democraps have finally found a way to convince the Republicans
to abandon a leader.

The "conservative party" has always been a circular firing squad, so this
should not come as any surprise to anyone.

Who is next? Cheney? Powell? Bush?

 

4 posted on 12/13/2002 6:40:35 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: Bluntpoint
I don't think Rockwell is saying that EITHER.

He simply raised in my alleged mind the prospect that there was a serious states right component to Thurmond's campaign that he -- like politicians of all stripes and all parties -- cloaked in an argument the electorate might better understand at an EMOTIONAL level rather than an INTELLECTUAL one.

Isn't that akin to what Lincoln did during the War Between the States when he put SLAVERY on the table about mid-way through the conflict to reenergize a flagging interest in waging what was -- at its roots -- an effort to keep the south from challanging the established commerce of the north?

And as a senior Yankee transplanted to the south 30 years ago, I have come to understand the curiosity with which many Southerners viewed the TV images of school buses carrying black children being overturned and burned...

BY WHITE PARENTS...

...IN BOSTON!!

5 posted on 12/13/2002 6:50:00 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
"He simply raised in my alleged mind the prospect that there was a serious states right component to Thurmond's campaign that he -- like politicians of all stripes and all parties -- cloaked in an argument the electorate might better understand at an EMOTIONAL level rather than an INTELLECTUAL one. "

No. I think he just hated nigg@ers.

6 posted on 12/13/2002 6:57:12 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS VIOLATION ALERT!!! (LIBERALS -- AND WUSSIE PUBBIES -- READ FURTHER AT YOUR OWN PERIL!)

"I will say that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of SUPERIOR and INFERIOR, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the WHITE RACE."

Abraham Lincoln (September 18, 1858)

DOES THIS MEAN LINCOLN HATED NI@@ERS??

7 posted on 12/13/2002 7:04:58 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
I'm sorry, Did Lott attend Abe's birthday party.

Remember these great words from the platform that Lott said would have changed this county for the good:

(From the Dixiecrat ballot, with Strom at the top of the ticket)

REMEMBER

A vote for Truman electors is a direct order to our Congressmen and Senators from Mississippi to vote for passage of Truman’s so-called civil-rights program in the next Congress. This means the vicious FEPC-anti poll tax-anti-lynching and anti-segregation proposals will become the law of the land and our way of life in the South will be gone forever.

See actual ballot:

I am awful at posting this stuff, but please go here and see Post 307. It is the Dixiecrat ballot.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/805214/posts?q=1&&page=301

Read the history of the Dixiecrat party. They separated from the Democratic party only on the issue of segregation. Period.

Now, if you want to pretend that in the platform it be be implied that federalism was the main thrust, then knock yourself out.

Are you one of those people who can find the right to an abortion is implied by an amalgam of the rights listed in the "Bill of Rights?"

8 posted on 12/13/2002 7:14:06 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Dick Bachert
Lott's mistake was in phrasing. Instead of saying he was sorry Thurmond lost, he should have said, "It's too bad that Harry "little turkey" Truman won. Look at all the problems we've had since then.
10 posted on 12/13/2002 7:25:42 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Bluntpoint
Putting Lott's problems aside for a moment, the bigger question becomes, "What the hell did Jefferson and Lincoln know about ANYTHING?"

Oh yeah: I ACTIVELY supported Alan Keyes (was asked to speak for him on the Second Amendment at a rally at the Capitol in Atlanta), am pro-life and number Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams among the brightest economic minds extant.

"It will probably be asked, Why not retain and incorporate the blacks into the State [instead of colonizing them]? Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites, ten thousand recollections by the blacks of the injuries they have sustained, new provocations, the real distinctions which nature has made, and many other circumstances will divide us into parties and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race."

--Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:192

11 posted on 12/13/2002 7:27:57 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
"What the hell did Jefferson and Lincoln know about ANYTHING?"

Read their writings.

Don't you dare compare them to:

A vote for Truman electors is a direct order to our Congressmen and Senators from Mississippi to vote for passage of Truman’s so-called civil-rights program in the next Congress. This means the vicious FEPC-anti poll tax-anti-lynching and anti-segregation proposals will become the law of the land and our way of life in the South will be gone forever.

The founding fathers were products of their times; But they still attempted to have thoughtful debate on how to make this country better.

The Dixiecrats were nothing but a nigg@r hating lynch mob of a party.






12 posted on 12/13/2002 7:39:31 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Dick Bachert
This artcile might not be a bad way to go for Lott/the GOP. I've long felt that the issue of states rights/federalism needs to be more broadly examined away from the emotionalism around race/segregation/integration. This may be the time to do it.
13 posted on 12/13/2002 7:45:08 AM PST by mafree
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To: Bluntpoint
I WILL dare to compare them. Look up "Santayana, George" then we'll chat again!

And as far as your remark that...
"The founding fathers were products of their times; But they still attempted to have thoughtful debate on how to make this country better,"

that discussion included Jefferson's belief that we would be in constant turmoil here unless we sent former slaves BACK TO AFRICA.

He was seconded much later by one Marcus Garvey (a BLACK man).

14 posted on 12/13/2002 7:53:07 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: mafree
I agree 100% but do you think a spineless worm like Trent Lott would even broach these subjects? I mean be honest....forget anything racial...one thing to add to Lott's glorious record...he nixed the idea of cutting the nickel a gallon fed tax on gasoline...hahaha..you really think he would even mention serious core issues like states rights and federalism???
15 posted on 12/13/2002 7:59:06 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Dick Bachert
It's (almost) funny how a thread defending Lott has brought out an anti-Lincoln post. What Lincoln or Jefferson or anyone other than Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond said doesn't matter. The fact is that Thurmond left the Democratic Party in 1948 because of its pro-civil rights platform that called for an end to segregation. He formed his own party and won a majority of votes in four states--Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, and South Carolina--presumably from both Democrats and Republicans in those states. Thurmond then joined the Republican Party.

You will notice that the condemnations coming from Democrats and other libs isn't being directed at Thurmond himself. That's because he has actually changed his views on the civil rights issue. The problem is that Lott got stuck in a time warp and praised Thurmond for his 1948 position. And you can't blame it on Lott just being nice on an old man's 100th birthday, because this was at least the second time Lott had made this exact comment. Is Lott a racist? No. Is he stupid, and does he deserve to be booted from leading the Senate GOP? Yes.
16 posted on 12/13/2002 8:02:04 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: drjimmy
Bingo.
17 posted on 12/13/2002 8:04:04 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
LOL. I'll not only compare them, I'll say they were just another statement in the long line of racist remarks of which The Lincoln was popular for
Whether slavery shall go into Nebraska, or other new territories, is not a matter of exclusive concern to the people who may go there. The whole nation is interested that the best use shall be made of these territories. We want them for the homes of free white people. This they cannot be, to any considerable extent, if slavery shall be planted within them. Slave States are places for poor white people to remove FROM; not to remove TO--The Lincoln, 1854
And considering the home state of the emperor had passed a law in 1853 preventing blacks from even living in the state (with no argument from him), I'd say the other poster is correct
18 posted on 12/13/2002 8:04:23 AM PST by billbears
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To: Dick Bachert
Stay focused on the game, people. This isn't about Trent Lott, it's about which party controls the U.S. Senate when it reconvenes in January. Right now the split is 51-49; if the Democrats can force Lott to resign as majority leader, and do it in a way so humiliating that he resigns his Senate seat as well, then Lott's replacement will be appointed by Ron Musgrave, the 4-term Democrat governor of Mississippi.

And if you believe Musgrave will appoint a Republican to fill Lott's seat, I've got some DNR-protected wetlands I'd like to sell you.

The sudden appearance of stories about Lott's racist activities as a college frat boy has as much credibility as the sudden appearance of Linda Tripp's shoplifting arrest record. This whole sorry mess is a political hit job, pure and simple, and the fingerprints of Terry McAuliffe, James Carville, and Hillary Clinton are all over this one.

19 posted on 12/13/2002 8:07:49 AM PST by brbethke
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To: chasio649
No, I don't think he would..paging Ron Paul!!
20 posted on 12/13/2002 8:31:23 AM PST by mafree
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