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UNNATURAL LAW (Supremes to review sodomy laws) liberal barf-and offensive content alert
NEW YORKER ^ | 12/16/02 issue | Hendrik Hertzberg

Posted on 12/10/2002 11:21:41 AM PST by Liz

Like whist, whilst, and self-abuse, the word sodomy has an old-fashioned ring to it. You don't even see it alluded to much anymore, except in punning tabloid headlines about the situation in Iraq. But it—or its kissin' cousin, the nearly as archaic-sounding "deviate sexual intercourse"—can be found in the criminal codes of thirteen states of the Union, where it is punishable by penalties ranging from a parking-ticket-size fine to (theoretically) ten years in prison.

Even at this late date, many people are vague about just exactly what sodomy is. Montesquieu defined it as "the crime against nature," which is not especially helpful. Blackstone called it "the infamous crime against nature, committed either with man or beast," which gets us a little further, but not much. Back in the U.S.A., the statute books tend to be franker. Some states bring animals into the picture, some don't. The Texas Legislature's definition is nonzoological.

SKIP THIS IF EXPLICIT LANGUAGE OFFENDS. According to Section 21.01 of the Texas Penal Code (readers of delicate sensibilities may at this point wish to skip down a few lines), " 'Deviate sexual intercourse' means: (A) any contact between any part of the genitals of one person and the mouth or anus of another person; or (B) the penetration of the genitals or the anus of another person with an object."

RESUME READING HERE What the Lone Star State does and does not view as some kinda deviated preversion became of national interest last week, when the United States Supreme Court agreed to consider Lawrence v. Texas. The Lawrence of the case is John G. Lawrence, fifty-nine years old, of Houston, who, on the evening of September 17, 1998, was in his apartment with a guest, Tyron Garner, who is thirty-five. Texas got involved when police, having been tipped off by a neighbor that a "weapons disturbance" was in progress, busted down the door. (The tip was a deliberate lie on the part of the neighbor, who was later convicted of filing a false report.)

What the officers found Lawrence and Garner doing is really none of our business, any more than it was any of Texas's; suffice it to say that it was consensual, nonviolent, and noise-free. The two men were arrested, jailed overnight, and eventually fined two hundred dollars each. They appealed, a three-judge panel of a district appeals court reversed their conviction, the full nine-judge appeals court reversed the reversal, and the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals declined to do any more reversing. And so to Washington.

The statute under which Lawrence and Garner were convicted, Section 21.06 of the Texas Penal Code, is officially known as the Homosexual Conduct Law. Ironically, this statute was a product of the progressive mood of the early nineteen-seventies. In most of the states that still criminalize sodomy, it doesn't matter, legally, whether a couple engaging in behavior (A), above, consists of two men, two women, or one of each.

That's how it was in Texas, too, until 1974. In that bell-bottomed year, the Texas Legislature made heterosexual sodomy legal, but it couldn't quite bring itself to do the same for gays. The result is that Texas is now one of only four states (the others being Kansas, Missouri, and Oklahoma) where it is a crime for gays to please each other in ways that are perfectly legal for straights. The panel that overturned the conviction saw this as discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

The full state court disagreed. Rather, confirming what Anatole France called "the majestic egalitarianism of the law, which forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges," the court pointed out that in Texas homosexuality is illegal for heterosexuals and homosexuals alike. No discrimination there.

According to the Times's Linda Greenhouse, the Supreme Court probably wouldn't have taken the case unless a majority had already decided to "revisit" Bowers v. Hardwick (1986), which upheld the constitutionality of Georgia's sodomy law.

The decision in that case—by a vote of five to four, as with so many of the Court's clunkers—was an embarrassment. Both its language and its reasoning were shockingly coarse. Writing for the majority, Justice Byron White defined "the issue"—leeringly, sarcastically, obtusely, and repeatedly—as "whether the Federal Constitution confers a fundamental right upon homosexuals to engage in sodomy," or protects "a fundamental right to engage in homosexual sodomy," or extends "a fundamental right to homosexuals to engage in acts of consensual sodomy." Any such claim, he added, "is, at best, facetious."

Caricaturing the well-established constitutional right to privacy in this nyah-nyah way is like dismissing the First Amendment as being all about the right to make doo-doo jokes. It was left to the author of the dissenting opinion, Justice Harry Blackmun, to point out, quoting Justice Brandeis, that the case was really "about 'the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men,' namely 'the right to be let alone.' "

Justice Lewis Powell, who tipped the balance in Bowers v. Hardwick, expressed regret years later that he had voted the way he did. He's gone now. John Paul Stevens, who dissented, William Rehnquist, now Chief Justice, and Sandra Day O'Connor are the only holdovers from the Court that upheld Georgia's sodomy law (which, by the way, was thrown out, a few months after Lawrence and Garner were arrested in Houston, by Georgia's supreme court, for violating Georgia's constitution).

Half the states that had sodomy laws when Bowers was decided have got rid of them, and those that still have them seldom enforce them. But when they are enforced the consequences can be more onerous than it may appear. Lawrence and Garner aren't just out four hundred bucks; they may also be banned from certain professions, from nursing to school-bus driving, and are deprived of other privileges denied to persons who have been convicted of "crimes of moral turpitude."

Anyway, sodomy laws are a standing insult to, among others, millions of respectable citizens who happen to be gay. They are an absurd anachronism and an obvious violation of the right to privacy. Whatever they may have represented in Montesquieu's day, or even Byron White's, in 2002 they are nothing but an expression of bigotry. If the Supreme Court takes a truly honest look at Section 21.06 of the Texas Penal Code, it will surely agree with the view of Dickens's Mr. Bumble: this is one case where, at bottom, "the law is a ass."

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To: FF578
You have so far ignored my question. Please answer or post why you will not answer.

"So if my wife gives me oral sex then I/She/We should be killed?"
201 posted on 12/10/2002 2:18:47 PM PST by Karsus
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To: Roscoe
Do you ever notice that FreeRepublic is being taken over by these Libertarian/Homosexual Activists.

I remember when every poster on a Pro-Life Thread was Pro-Life, now about half are Pro-Death.

Whenever they let the drug heads in, look what followed.

202 posted on 12/10/2002 2:20:02 PM PST by FF578
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To: weegee
"Dogs aren't always smart"

Heck, you don't have to convince me. That's why I have cats.
203 posted on 12/10/2002 2:20:59 PM PST by mg39
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To: Karsus
I already answered your question. Go back and read.
204 posted on 12/10/2002 2:21:04 PM PST by FF578
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To: FF578
I answered your question, please answer mine.

Would you let a Homosexual watch your children? How about a Homosexual member of NAMBLA?

Do you oppose or Support lowering the age of consent, doing away with the age of consent, laws against pologamy and bigamy, and laws banning sex with animals?

I answered your questions long ago. If you even attempted to pay attention you would have known that.

205 posted on 12/10/2002 2:21:39 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: FF578
You could start your own web based forum and restrict access to those that agree with you. Sort of like DU.
206 posted on 12/10/2002 2:22:09 PM PST by Karsus
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To: Karsus
"So if my wife gives me oral sex then I/She/We should be killed?"

You know what, Karsus? There are some people on this board who would benefit greatly from a good BJ. Too bad they think its evil. Oh well, more for the rest of us!
207 posted on 12/10/2002 2:23:10 PM PST by mg39
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To: Karsus
Do you know what is funny though.

Libertarians act like they are a huge force, they crawl on websites like this, yet everytime they or their causes go up for vote, they get 0.36% of the vote nationally.

What gives?

208 posted on 12/10/2002 2:24:03 PM PST by FF578
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To: Karsus
Y"ou could start your own web based forum and restrict access to those that agree with you. Sort of like DU."

If FF578 rents himself out for parties, I get first dibs.

209 posted on 12/10/2002 2:24:19 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: FF578
Would you be so kind as to repost what you think? I just checked 'My Comments' and It does not show such a response from you.

210 posted on 12/10/2002 2:26:41 PM PST by Karsus
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To: FF578
"Libertarians act like they are a huge force, they crawl on websites like this, yet everytime they or their causes go up for vote, they get 0.36% of the vote nationally. "

Please, don't take this as afront to your religious convictions, but I would imagine if you would put fellatio for husband wife on the ballot, you would get more yeas than nays.

211 posted on 12/10/2002 2:27:16 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Karsus
I already said that I believe the Death Penalty should apply to sodomy.
212 posted on 12/10/2002 2:27:16 PM PST by FF578
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To: FF578
I do not know. I am not a Libertarian.
213 posted on 12/10/2002 2:27:32 PM PST by Karsus
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To: FF578
I can not believe that you honestly think that my wife and I should be killed by the state.
214 posted on 12/10/2002 2:28:43 PM PST by Karsus
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To: FF578
So you think that the state is authorized to put me and my wife to death if we engage in oral sex?

It's wacko extremists like yourself that give the vast majority of religious conservatives a bad image and causes others to hate them.

215 posted on 12/10/2002 2:30:11 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: FF578
"I already said that I believe the Death Penalty should apply to sodomy."

Like I said, you'd go swell with the Taliban.
216 posted on 12/10/2002 2:30:18 PM PST by mg39
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To: Liz
Pro Sodomy bump!
217 posted on 12/10/2002 2:30:26 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Karsus; FF578
And we wonder where those on the left get the notion that those on the right want to control and dictate what goes on in peoples bedrooms.

FF578 has an overriding and uncontrolable fear that someone, somewhere is enjoying themselves.

218 posted on 12/10/2002 2:31:15 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Karsus
"I can not believe that you honestly think that my wife and I should be killed by the state."

I don't think he needs the state. Sounds like his congregation would do and your lovely wife after a church ice cream social.
219 posted on 12/10/2002 2:31:36 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: FF578
We also play Dungeons & Dragons together. What should happen to us because of that? PS. We read Harry Potter & LOTR too!
220 posted on 12/10/2002 2:31:50 PM PST by Karsus
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