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If you were a Democrat, wouldn’t you just want to shake Clinton?
NRO ^ | 12/4/2002 | David Frum

Posted on 12/04/2002 7:08:11 AM PST by geedee

Clinton Speaks

If you were a Democrat, wouldn’t you just want to shake Clinton? Here’s what I’d be saying: “Hey Bill: You decided not to retaliate forcefully when Saddam Hussein tried to murder your predecessor, our 41st president. You decided that the right way to stop North Korea from getting a nuclear bomb was to lavish them with aid – and then you decided to ignore the evidence that they were cheating. You issued the rules that crippled our intelligence agencies.”* You decided that your top priority for the military was to social engineering, not fighting. You refused to take custody of bin Laden when he was offered up to you. You decided to fight terrorism by, as President Bush 43 so vividly put it, by firing million-dollar missiles at $10 empty tents and hitting a camel in the butt. And now you tell us that we lost the Congress because we’re seen as soft on national security. Ooooooooooooh.” It does make you wonder why there isn’t a word for chutzpah in Arkansan.

On the other hand: Clinton is right of course. Whatever else you say about the Big He, he is a shrewd student of American politics – much shrewder than his would-be successor John F. Kerry, who hopes to win the presidency in 2004 on the issue of faster train connections between New York and Boston. National security is the issue, and it is amazing that none of the likely Democratic candidates in 2004 except Joe Lieberman have anything worthwhile to say about it.

I have this theory about politics: when a political party offers the voters ham and eggs, and the voters say no thanks, its first instinct is to say, “OK then – how about double ham and double eggs?” It’s as if defeat liberates parties to say what they reallythink – and what the Democrats really think is that the voters are just as bored with the whole subject of national security as they are and would really prefer to drop the whole subject. It often takes two elections – and sometimes three – to teach a party to stop talking about what matters to itself and start talking about what matters to the voters. Republicans went through this dismal cycle in the 1990s; now it looks to be the Democrats’ turn.

* If you haven’t done so already, be sure to see Heather Mac Donald’s report on the impact of Clinton-era Political Correctness in the current issue of City Journal: "Why the FBI Didn't Stop 9/11." It's guaranteed to make your blood boil.


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Pee Wee Clinton has already cost thousands of Americans their lives. And he has the audacity to blame GW.
1 posted on 12/04/2002 7:08:11 AM PST by geedee
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To: geedee
Clinton's policies and presidency have been completely marginalized by our current President. Big Bill will take ANY opportunity to keep his puss in the news.

It must hurt to go from quarterback to waterboy in two years.
2 posted on 12/04/2002 7:15:03 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
Be thankful they're all Kool Aid drinkers in the other party.
4 posted on 12/04/2002 7:20:27 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: conservativemusician
Oh, come on.

He *finally* shows up with something to say in repsonse to their thrashing...as ludicrous as it is.

Went to Costco and got my popcorn. I'm ready.

5 posted on 12/04/2002 7:21:17 AM PST by DCPatriot
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
That's ALL ?!? C'mon !
6 posted on 12/04/2002 7:28:45 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: geedee
"Shake" Clinton?

I am not a Democrat. And if I told you what I would like to do to Clinton, I might get in trouble.
7 posted on 12/04/2002 7:32:06 AM PST by SerpentDove
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To: geedee
My gosh...all those Democrats were his apologists! They made their own bed!

What a sorry loser to have had as president for 8 years. We need to wake up to the fact that we live in very perilous times. To place a guy like that in control is unbelieveable.

8 posted on 12/04/2002 7:33:42 AM PST by Lando Lincoln
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To: geedee
I think we've all had enough of BEEL KLEENTON.

Remember Juanita!
9 posted on 12/04/2002 7:45:25 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: geedee
Democrats love klintoon. It reflects just how bad a shape their party is in. That's good news.
10 posted on 12/04/2002 7:49:26 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
And nearly every place Clinton campaigned, the candidate lost! Clinton is a loser and he's toast. The only people who like him are the Hollywood libs and the NOW gang. Bush has totally overshadowed Clinton and by his "gravitas" is demonstrating just how weak Clinton was. His presidency will be remembered as a total disaster. All good things in all good time.
11 posted on 12/04/2002 7:53:21 AM PST by Wphile
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To: geedee
The Clintons still run the dems though.

They are their totem for bad or for worse... they raise tons of cash for the party.

I'm convinced HRC wants to be picked as VP in 2004.

If things sour for Bush, she might even run herself.

12 posted on 12/04/2002 7:53:45 AM PST by johnny7
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To: Wphile
#11 - You're right, of course.

It's just so damn frustrating that it takes so long for "history" to wake up and see the real truth!

;^)
13 posted on 12/04/2002 7:56:13 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
Your obvious passion for justice reminds me of a scene in the historical novel "Oliver Wiswell" by Kenneth Roberts.

Early in the Revolutionary war, one "highly respected" Boston area loyalist traitor was stripped naked, dipped in hot tar, covered with feathers, and carried out of town strapped to a split-log rail.

14 posted on 12/04/2002 7:57:03 AM PST by thinktwice
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To: geedee
Hey Bill: You decided not to retaliate forcefully when Saddam Hussein tried to murder your predecessor, our 41st president.

Of course, the 41st president moved a large military force to the outskirts of Baghdad, then stopped and went home, leaving Saddam where he is today. What a waste of Gulf War I.

15 posted on 12/04/2002 7:58:34 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: geedee
Agree with Frum's assessment on the time it takes a party to wake up to reality - why else would the Dems want anything to do with Clinton and why have they not exiled him from all current political activity and discourse?

One the one hand the list of Bill Clinton's misconduct in office is almost endless. On the other hand, if the country can survive eight years of him and the Hildebeast it gives me confidence in the strength of the Republic!
16 posted on 12/04/2002 7:59:38 AM PST by Rummyfan
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Yes the hardcore dems do still love clinton. Over at DU they call him "the big dog" & long for his return. I think the smarter ones might be realizing what "the big dog" cost them, even tho they still believe in the dem agenda.
17 posted on 12/04/2002 7:59:54 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Lando Lincoln
We survived WW II. We can survive the Clintons.
18 posted on 12/04/2002 8:03:25 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: johnny7
I'm convinced HRC wants to be picked as VP in 2004.

You have got to be kidding. Hillary isn't going to pay second fiddle to anyone else. Sheesh...I bet her running mate (the presidential candidate) would die of a unusual illness (or perhaps natural causes) only days after the inauguration!

No, Hillary doesn't want to be VP and I really doubt anyone wants to be the President with her as the VP!

19 posted on 12/04/2002 8:10:47 AM PST by Wphile
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
We survived WW II. We can survive the Clintons.

Quite true - and we are making progress. However, it infuriates me just how self-inflicted the Clintons are on our society. The enablers and apologists remain blinded to them even today.

20 posted on 12/04/2002 8:13:36 AM PST by Lando Lincoln
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