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Dad on the brink
Toronto Sun ^ | 2002-12-04 | Mark Bonokoski

Posted on 12/04/2002 5:47:12 AM PST by Lorenb420

Suffers family court's unfairness

Like the hundreds who called, she too had read the column bearing the headline "dads are dying" -- the story of a father who took his own life after the Family Responsibility Office garnished his entire paycheque over tardy child-support payments, leaving him without hope and only 43 cents to his name.

It struck a chord because it reminded her of her brother, and the state of his affairs today.

"I am not surprised about the number of men committing suicide over these situations," she said. "My brother has come pretty close to that brink."

If you travel the 401 regularly, you have no doubt become accustomed to seeing 18-wheelers pulled over to the side of the road as long-haul truckers grab some direly needed kip between klicks.

One of those truckers could well be this woman's brother, for not only does he sleep in his company's truck when he wearies, it is also where he lives.

His truck is now his full-time home.

"During his marriage, he refused to take long hauls so he could be home every night with his family," she said. "He had two small kids -- ages five and three -- when his marriage came crashing down.

"His wife wanted to be like her older sister -- divorced, receiving child-support payments and cheating welfare," she added, facetiously.

"Using her sister's lawyer, she stated in her divorce papers that my brother had abused his children. It was all lies, of course," she said. "But it ensured that he would never see his children again.

"Ten years later, he still doesn't know where his ex-wife is ... or his children."

COUP DE GRACE

While it would seem impossible that a judge would order her brother to pay child-support payments which totalled more than he earned, the number of calls received over the "dads dying" column is testimony to the fact it happens all too often.

In her brother's case, the judge told him to either get a better job or work longer hours.

And, when her brother protested, the judge delivered the coup de grace.

He had his wages garnisheed.

And, once the Family Responsibility Office (FRO) had that court document in hand, it showed no mercy.

With every dime her brother made still not being enough, it quickly depleted any assets he had, leaving him no option but to live in his truck.

And that's where he can still be found today, not willing to talk about his situation, but willing to let his sister do the talking for him.

"He's a totally lost soul," she said.

With income supply unable to meet the support-payment demand, he quickly found himself in arrears.

Now he was not only a father who had supposedly abused his children, he was also a deadbeat dad, two of the worst monikers imaginable.

Instead of understanding her brother's financial predicament, however, the FRO decided to play an even harder type of ball -- yanking his licence to drive a commercial vehicle and thereby ensuring the future would only get worse.

No licence, no job; no job, no money; no money, no support.

"Think of the mentality of them doing that," she said. "We almost lost my brother after that. My father managed to get him a job, temporarily. And he was also finally able to get a judge to lower his support payments to a more reasonable amount.

"But what a fight."

It took a year before her brother could get his driver's licence back, and his former employer -- one of the better-known trucking firms in this country -- took him back on their payroll in an instant.

NO QUESTIONS

What the sister has learned from this is not what might be considered politically correct, but it is the way she saw it nonetheless.

She saw, in her mind's eye, that a woman can say anything she wants in family court, and no one will ever question her story. She saw that no matter what was said or done, the divorced father is no more than pond scum in a judge's eyes. And she saw that "women can disappear off the face of the planet with the kids in tow, and the attitude of authorities is, 'Yeah, so. Just keep up those payments.'

"It is not a pretty picture," she said. "To live through it with my brother was a real eye-opener.

"For fathers like him, it's not only frustrating, it's utterly hopeless."


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: divorce
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1 posted on 12/04/2002 5:47:12 AM PST by Lorenb420
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To: Lorenb420
I'm not suprised. I've been there , although not as severe as this guy. After 7 weeks I was told by a Court official,( L Burk I haven't forgotten you) "Sign the papers and then we'll tell you were you kids are". I signed , and they refused to talk for another 3 weeks. After a year and a half, 18 months , I fired my lawyer, I slammed my fist on the table in court and had my say in front of a judge. Throw me in jail, throw away the key, I don't care . You can not hurt me any more . Enough is enough!
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. It's a hell of a fight but today, 16 years later, all three of my kids, (and 4 grand kids now), are my family..

The one thing the courts, the feminists, the stupid family members who interfere never think of is that kids grow up. They become adults . And they know who tried his damnedest, is decent and honest and was never far away. Dad.
2 posted on 12/04/2002 6:31:49 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: Lorenb420; RogerFGay; realwoman; William Terrell; VRWC_minion; right2parent; BuddhaBoy; Snowyman
I don't know what depresses me more...this story or the fact that so many people out there just don't give a damn about this until it happens to them or someone they know. Oh, and there are plenty of people who think that this kind of treatment is just fine. No judge or other member of the divorce industry is ever held accountable for the lives they ruin, and don't think that any ever will be.
3 posted on 12/04/2002 6:50:50 AM PST by Orangedog
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To: Snowyman
Good to hear that you have yours family with you.
But the reason the courts, the liers(lawyers) etc behave this way is to make money. They made that off of you and others like you. What happens afterwords - they do not care. Yours is one few/many success stories in later life.

NKG
4 posted on 12/04/2002 6:53:02 AM PST by ngupta94
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To: Orangedog; Snowyman
I realize that I am beginning to sound like a broken record here on Free Republic, but I just cannot understand why a man in this day and age would ever consider marriage or children.

She saw, in her mind's eye, that a woman can say anything she wants in family court, and no one will ever question her story. She saw that no matter what was said or done, the divorced father is no more than pond scum in a judge's eyes. And she saw that "women can disappear off the face of the planet with the kids in tow, and the attitude of authorities is, 'Yeah, so. Just keep up those payments.

Everyone in America knows that this is the state of things, so I ask again, why on Earth would anyone ever risk going through this? Women are as plentiful as oxygen these days, so why risk your entire life to link up with one of them, and give her the option of destroying you should she ever get the whim to do so?

Are men just nuts?

5 posted on 12/04/2002 6:59:01 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
As a woman, I find the onesidedness of the family court system to be appalling for many reasons, including ones not addressed by the article or subsequent comments so far. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but I assure you, not all women are like that. Some of us love our husbands deeply and plan to exist as a family for this life and beyond.

My husband is a good, good Christian man and we have a very strong marriage of almost 10 years with 2 wonderful children (3rd due in a couple weeks). He is an amazing father who has precious relationships with both our son and daughter and I can't even begin to imagine that forcibly changing, either by my hand or someone else's. You may find it hard to believe, but check with me in another 10 years, and I guarantee you, short of death, you'll find us firmly intact as a family.
6 posted on 12/04/2002 7:19:34 AM PST by agrace
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To: BuddhaBoy
In lot of cases, the children are not a product of a marriage. Men need to take birth control much more seriously than they do now. Latex is no guarranty and I wouldn't take a woman at her word if she says she's on the pill. The only two methods that I would put any weight in are abstainance or a vasectomy. I've been using both of those for a very long time.

I was talking to my next door neighbor a few weeks ago. His 27 year old son has just had to move back in with them after the woman he dated last year got pregnant by him just before they broke up. He was making about $26,000/year. After taxes that would be somewhere around $1500/month. He was ordered to pay over $800/month in support and daycare, which means that he would have to pay rent, utilities, gas, food, car insurance, etc with the $700 he had left. He's talked to 2 other lawyers to see about getting it reduced and they both told him that the fees would be too high for what little they could possibly get it reduced (less than 10%, at best.). And he has this to look forward to for the next 18-20 years, knowing that the ex will fight him tooth and nail as he tries to have a relationship with his kid.
7 posted on 12/04/2002 7:23:31 AM PST by Orangedog
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To: agrace
but I assure you, not all women are like that.

Its not the women, its the state. Here is the problem. Many women are receiving state aid.

In order to qualify women are forced to get child support. The state will supply the attorneys and do whatever is necessary to prove paternity and get child support orders. The dad ordinarily cannot afford an attorney and unwittingly believes the process is fair.

Upon receipt of the court order, the state then does wage attachments.

8 posted on 12/04/2002 8:09:59 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Orangedog
And he has this to look forward to for the next 18-20 years, knowing that the ex will fight him tooth and nail as he tries to have a relationship with his kid.

Men who dont want children need to consider getting a vasectomy. It was the best decision that I ever made. I know that all women are not this way, but enough are to make it russian roulette to sleep with one of them without being protected.

Your neighbors son's life is RUINED, even if he could get a DNA test proving him not to be the father. The courts dont care, once his name is on a birth certificate.

9 posted on 12/04/2002 8:39:04 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: VRWC_minion
Actually, its the State AND women.

No man should ever sleep with a woman on aid, or one who KNOWS any woman on aid, or with any single mother.

Again, not all women are bad, but enough are for men to need to be extremely selective these days.

10 posted on 12/04/2002 8:41:17 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
I've contemplated not having a family for some of those very reasons. I've heard way too many horror stories of guys who were raked over the coals.
11 posted on 12/04/2002 8:45:39 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: jjm2111
Three years ago, I saw my best friend's wife turn from sweetheart to attack dog right after he bought her a house, and she got pregnant. All of a sudden, after she got everything she wanted, she decided to divorce him and return to college.

He is now paying for a house he was only able to live in for a month, and a child that he never see's because when things got ugly, she accused him of abuse, though he has never laid a hand on her.

She moved another guy into the home last year who used to do odd gardening jobs in the neighborhood, who now eats the food from the money my buddy provides. She has not worked at all since the divorce, and my friends and I give our buddy cash on the side, just so he can live a decent life, since he has been forced by the courts to pay the mortgage and child support no matter what she does.

My friend has told me that he would rather see me dead than married, and I believe him. I will never, ever take that risk.

12 posted on 12/04/2002 8:58:34 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
>>>I realize that I am beginning to sound like a broken record here on Free Republic, but I just cannot understand why a man in this day and age would ever consider marriage or children. <<<<


Me either. Marriage seems to be a fantastic deal if you are a woman.


13 posted on 12/04/2002 8:59:19 AM PST by acs
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To: BuddhaBoy
From your previous posts, I know you're just another "typical male" from my perspective and experience. You just use younger ones as a fling toy and toss them aside when you're done. I have absolutely no doubt that if your current "girlfriend" gained 10 pounds, you'd fling her aside and pick up another toy.

And that's why I, as a female, do not have any delusions of finding permanent love. Because there are far too many scumbags like you.

Now I'll wait for your usual accusation of "spoken like a plump girl". Your gender is no gem either. Americans suck in every way, male and female.
14 posted on 12/04/2002 9:13:57 AM PST by Nataku X
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To: BuddhaBoy
One word: Prenupitals. I have little sympathy for love-struck men (or women) who are too deep in love and view prenup arrangements as a sign that they don't really believe in the strength of their relationship.
15 posted on 12/04/2002 9:17:52 AM PST by Nataku X
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To: BuddhaBoy
Sounds like the guy my brother used to work with. His ex has put herself through college on this guy's alimony. She has the live in do-nothing boyfriend. The alimony was only supposed to last five years but she whined to the court and she got another five years. He barely had any say in the matter. Now this woman is going for her masters.
16 posted on 12/04/2002 9:20:36 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: Nakatu X
LOL!

Just a couple of corrections:

First, that would be "Spin-toy"; as in "spinner", and 5 pounds, max.

If you are having trouble finding that "permanent love" you desire, you might start out by not calling people names that you dont know. I have no idea if you are plump, but if you are, that is nothing that closing your mouth wont fix.

If you have a problem with my gender, I hear Rosie O'Donnell is looking for a new squeeze to breed with?

Surely you can find love there?

17 posted on 12/04/2002 9:23:51 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Lorenb420
..."His wife wanted to be like her older sister -- divorced, receiving child-support payments and cheating welfare,"

A rat is a dog is a pig is a feminist (with profound apologies to rats, dogs and pigs...).

18 posted on 12/04/2002 9:24:01 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: Orangedog
The only two methods that I would put any weight in are abstainance or a vasectomy. I've been using both [emphasis added] of those for a very long time.

My friend, did you need the former when you had the latter?

19 posted on 12/04/2002 9:27:32 AM PST by freedumb2003
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To: Nakatu X
I got a better word for ya: VASECTOMY.

One clip, one snip, no slip, safe drip, no lip.

20 posted on 12/04/2002 9:27:47 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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