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C.I.A. Hunts Iraq Tie to Soviet Smallpox(Do You want To Sleep Well Tonight? ....Dont Read)
N Y TIMES ^ | December 3, 2002 | JUDITH MILLER

Posted on 12/03/2002 2:42:31 PM PST by woofie

The C.I.A. is investigating an informant's accusation that Iraq obtained a particularly virulent strain of smallpox from a Russian scientist who worked in a smallpox lab in Moscow during Soviet times, senior American officials and foreign scientists say.

The officials said several American scientists were told in August that Iraq might have obtained the mysterious strain from Nelja N. Maltseva, a virologist who worked for more than 30 years at the Research Institute for Viral Preparations in Moscow before her death two years ago.

The information came to the American government from an informant whose identity has not been disclosed. The C.I.A. considered the information reliable enough that President Bush was briefed about its implications. The attempt to verify the information is continuing.

Dr. Maltseva is known to have visited Iraq on several occasions. Intelligence officials are trying to determine whether, as the informant told them, she traveled there as recently as 1990, officials said. The institute where she worked housed what Russia said was its entire national collection of 120 strains of smallpox, and some experts fear that she may have provided the Iraqis with a version that could be resistant to vaccines and could be more easily transmitted as a biological weapon.

The possibility that Iraq possesses this strain is one of several factors that has complicated Mr. Bush's decision, expected this week, about how many Americans should be vaccinated against smallpox, a disease that was officially eradicated in 1980.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: smallpox
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1 posted on 12/03/2002 2:42:31 PM PST by woofie
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To: woofie
See here for a look at it from the perspective of the New Yorker.
2 posted on 12/03/2002 2:45:05 PM PST by r9etb
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To: woofie; The Great Satan
If it's resistant to vaccines, how does Saddam protect himself and his country from it?
3 posted on 12/03/2002 2:47:23 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
I never realized that Saddam was interested in protecting his populace. Perhaps he would be short on a supply of people to torture and execute, but then if his number is up, he wouldn't care.
4 posted on 12/03/2002 2:51:42 PM PST by Heartlander2
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To: r9etb
There was a outright spate of scientists dying in Russia a couple years ago, IIRC. Hmmmm
5 posted on 12/03/2002 2:52:02 PM PST by txhurl
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To: aristeides
When did Saddam ever worry about his country?
6 posted on 12/03/2002 2:52:16 PM PST by woofie
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To: aristeides
He probably doesn't care. Its use wouldn't be for deterrence (we won't be blackmailed), but for revenge.
7 posted on 12/03/2002 2:52:45 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: aristeides
If it's resistant to vaccines, how does Saddam protect himself and his country from it?

Do you think he cares about that?

8 posted on 12/03/2002 2:53:11 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: woofie
maybe saddam plans to use it in new york city...
9 posted on 12/03/2002 2:54:57 PM PST by Bill Davis FR
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To: woofie
Could it be that a warning has been shot over Bush's bow?
10 posted on 12/03/2002 2:55:53 PM PST by Heartlander2
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To: woofie
I heard Richard Preston speak about his book "The Demon in the Freezer" on C-SPAN the other day. Apparently the CDC is working on a substance that would disable the ability of the variola organism to kill people. This ought to work against all strains of smallpox, resistant or not.

If Iraq is thinking of using a strain that is resistant to vaccines, the U.S. thus has a head start on developing a countermeasure. Iraq would probably be fully vulnerable. Conventional smallpox had a mortality rate of 30%. A more virulent strain would presumably have a higher mortality. If it unleashes this scourge, Iraq may suffer something worse than the Black Death.

11 posted on 12/03/2002 2:58:34 PM PST by aristeides
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To: mewzilla
He probably doesn't care. Its use wouldn't be for deterrence (we won't be blackmailed), but for revenge.

Well, if he has it -- which I doubt -- we will be blackmailed, just as we were blackmailed by the Soviet nuclear deterrent. Some problems have no solution.

12 posted on 12/03/2002 2:58:56 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: aristeides
Saddam and his cronies probably made a mistake having smallpox around.

Lots of folks will pay for it.

13 posted on 12/03/2002 2:59:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: woofie
This article and the times we are living in have a serious one of the four horsemen, Book of Revelation sorta feel to them. All part of The Plan, I suppose. I wonder how close we really are.
14 posted on 12/03/2002 2:59:58 PM PST by GBA
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To: Heartlander2
Could it be that a warning has been shot over Bush's bow?

Polies been talking publicly about biowar, specifically small pox, from before the anthrax attacks. They haven't been doing this for no reason.

15 posted on 12/03/2002 3:00:02 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Heartlander2
Last June, experts from the Monterey Institute of International Studies, drawing on those Kazakh records and interviews with survivors, published a report saying the epidemic was a result of open-air tests of a particularly virulent smallpox strain on Vozrozhdeniye Island in the Aral Sea.

The island, known as Renaissance Island in English, is between Kazakhstan and another Central Asian country, Uzbekistan. The United States recently spent $6 million to help both countries, which are now independent, to decontaminate anthrax that the Soviet military buried in pits on the island.

Alan P. Zelicoff, co-author of the Monterey report and a scientist at Sandia National Laboratories, said the Aralsk outbreak was a watershed because it demonstrated that the smallpox virus was more easily spread than previously thought and that there may be a vaccine-resistant strain.

The organism can indeed be made to travel long distances, city-size perhaps, and there may be a vaccine-resistant strain or one that is more communicable than garden-variety smallpox, he said in an interview.

16 posted on 12/03/2002 3:01:43 PM PST by woofie
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To: The Great Satan
We won't be blackmailed with a bug. Not this one at any rate. Mortality rate is too low.
17 posted on 12/03/2002 3:01:45 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: woofie
Ironically, "vozrozhdeniye" means "rebirth".
18 posted on 12/03/2002 3:04:32 PM PST by aristeides
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To: The Great Satan
Some problems have no solution.

Yes they do; just give war a chance! Seriously, if we wouldn't go to war with a country because it uses a WMD against us, we might as well wave the white flag right now.

I believe peace in Iraq lies on the other side of war. Saddam must go.

19 posted on 12/03/2002 3:04:50 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: woofie
The American officials have also been unable to obtain information [from the Russians] that they believe could help federal investigators with their stalled inquiry into the anthrax attacks of October 2001, in which 5 people died and at least 17 were infected.

Interesting last paragraph, left sort of hanging out there, disconnected from everything else in the story. What information are they talking about?

20 posted on 12/03/2002 3:04:57 PM PST by The Great Satan
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