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FBI ethics-unit cuts called 'retaliatory' (Ruby Ridge cover-up )
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | December 2, 2002 | By Jerry Seper

Posted on 12/03/2002 11:03:48 AM PST by FreeSpeechZone

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:59:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

An FBI decision to assign fewer agents to an ethics training unit "might reasonably be perceived as retaliatory" because of the unit's recent findings of a double standard of discipline for FBI senior executives and the rank and file, two Senate Judiciary Committee members say.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; rubyridge
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FBI ethics chief says he was threatened during probe of Ruby Ridge murders
1 posted on 12/03/2002 11:03:48 AM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: FreeSpeechZone
New revelations on Ruby Ridge

ONLY ON 7 11/15/2002 Elizabeth Homan Idaho's NewsChannel 7

There are new revelations from a special report into the 1992 Ruby Ridge standoff.

The Department of Justice found that the FBI senior managers who were involved got special treatment.

The standoff began back in 1992 at a remote cabin in Ruby Ridge, Idaho. It was the home of Randy Weaver.

When he failed to show up in court on federal weapons charges, law enforcement tried to arrest him.

Instead, on august 21st, a hail of bullets rang out and a U.S. Marshal and Weaver's teenage son died.

Later, the FBI was called in. One of its sharpshooters fired a shot that killed Weaver's wife and wounded another. The standoff ended 10 days later.

Friday, more than 10 years later, the Inspector General says, “almost nothing about Ruby Ridge worked well.” The incident “had poor performance, poor judgment, misconduct and acts of ... obstruction to cover up the problems.”

The report also says that the FBI's first investigation “was at best grossly deficient and… intentionally slanted to protect the FBI and senior FBI officials.”

While there were more investigations, the Inspector General says “the discipline process took so long and was so flawed that in the end, it was hard to say that a fair result was reached.”

He goes on to say flaws made it look like senior management got off easy. The other problem - senior FBI managers were awarded bonuses and promotions even while under investigation.

But, the Inspector General says he expects improvement. From now on, the Inspector General will investigate most allegations of misconduct at the upper levels of the FBI.

While the Inspector General looked at several other cases in his report, he said he could not find sufficient evidence of overall favoritism towards senior management in the FBI.

2 posted on 12/03/2002 11:16:42 AM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Mueller has been a wimp from day one. He has done nothing to remove these clintonoid abusers of power. He was a disastrous appointment. I can't understand why Bush has left Mueller and Tenet and people like Robert J. Jordan in place. No doubt Ron Horiuchi is still around somewhere, too, enjoying his promotion.
3 posted on 12/03/2002 11:41:42 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
Jordan should be fired immediately.
4 posted on 12/03/2002 12:05:22 PM PST by expatpat
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To: FreeSpeechZone
When he failed to show up in court on federal weapons charges, law enforcement tried to arrest him.

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Uh, the reason Weaver failed to show up in court was because he received specific instructions from the court to show up on a different day than the day he was cited for not being present. No attempt was made to arrest Weaver. His family was subjected to an ambush in which LEOs shot first without warning.

5 posted on 12/03/2002 12:10:48 PM PST by RLK
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To: FreeSpeechZone
This is clasic doublespeak. The murder of a man's wife on her front porch is simply "a problem". Unless and until horiuchi etal are tried an convicted for said murder, I will believe absolutely none of the BS that eminates from fibbie HQ. They are a total disgrace!
6 posted on 12/03/2002 12:13:22 PM PST by jsraggmann
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To: RLK
Do you know who gave the order to kill Weaver's family?
7 posted on 12/03/2002 12:15:19 PM PST by jsraggmann
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To: jsraggmann
Do you know who gave the order to kill Weaver's family?

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Not exactly.

8 posted on 12/03/2002 12:22:29 PM PST by RLK
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To: Cicero
good thing Arland 'magic bullet / ancient Scottish law' Specter held Senate hearings to investigate all of this and pat the FBI on the back

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9 posted on 12/03/2002 12:23:20 PM PST by Elle Bee
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Do you know who gave the order to kill Weaver's family?

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The Judge who signed the warrent for Weaver's arrest was aware Weaver had been told to appear at a later date instead of the date of his supposed non-appearance. If it were up to me he would have been sentenced to serve five years at hard labor wearing his judicial robes.

10 posted on 12/03/2002 12:26:32 PM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
That would be a good start. Do you remember what King George I had to say about this? After all, it happened on his watch.
11 posted on 12/03/2002 12:30:32 PM PST by jsraggmann
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That would be a good start. Do you remember what King George I had to say about this? After all, it happened on his watch.

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Bush Senior didn't say anything or attempt to undertake any remedy. The situation subsequently escalated into Waco.

Bush Jr. also doesn't think any of it is important.

12 posted on 12/03/2002 12:33:56 PM PST by RLK
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"The Judge who signed the warrent for Weaver's arrest was aware Weaver had been told to appear at a later date instead of the date of his supposed non-appearance."

There was no warrant --- according to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals en banc case in 2001 (June or July.)

According to the court case, the U.S. Marshalls were on the Weaver propery for surveillance only, when the Marshalls shot the Weaver dog and the Weaver boy fired back --and then the boy was killed by a shot in the back as he ran toward the house.

The U.S. Marshalls did not identify themselves and did not have LEO markings on their clothing. [all in the court case].

13 posted on 12/03/2002 12:51:14 PM PST by gatex
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To: FreeSpeechZone
"....law enforcement tried to arrest him."

Not true -- no one tried to arrest Weaver.

The shots fired by the FBI were from ambush -- the FBI did not announce their presence or ask anyone to surrender [all in court case noted above].

14 posted on 12/03/2002 12:59:20 PM PST by gatex
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To: RLK
"Bush Senior didn't say anything or attempt to undertake any remedy...."

But he did take the time to loudly and publicly, on national TV, resign from the NRA --- because Wayne LePierre repeated the "jack booted" thugs accusation that Dem Representaive (what's his name ?) had used.

15 posted on 12/03/2002 1:05:39 PM PST by gatex
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To: RLK
His family was subjected to an ambush in which LEOs shot first without warning.

After promising the widow of dead federal marshal Degan that *her husband would be avanged.* Then the FBI sniper killed Randy Weaver's spose.

-archy-/-

16 posted on 12/03/2002 1:12:32 PM PST by archy
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To: gatex
...because Wayne LaPierre repeated the "jack booted" thugs accusation that Dem Representative (what's his name?) had used.

Jack Dingle of Michigan.

-archy-/-

17 posted on 12/03/2002 1:15:23 PM PST by archy
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"Jack Dingle of Michigan."

Thanks, couldn't remember at the moment -- he is a good supporter of gun rights.

18 posted on 12/03/2002 1:21:02 PM PST by gatex
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To: gatex
According to the court case, the U.S. Marshalls were on the Weaver propery for surveillance only, when the Marshalls shot the Weaver dog and the Weaver boy fired back --and then the boy was killed by a shot in the back as he ran toward the house.

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If I remember correctly the boy was killed by a surveillance submachine gun.

19 posted on 12/03/2002 1:21:59 PM PST by RLK
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To: archy
"After promising the widow of dead federal marshal Degan that *her husband would be avanged*...."

And then Horouchi took the shot at Vickie Weaver the the court case called "un-Constitutional."

20 posted on 12/03/2002 1:24:00 PM PST by gatex
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