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Islamists are Courting Extermination
The Journal - Free Britannia ^ | December 3, 2002 | T. R. Spence

Posted on 12/03/2002 8:30:28 AM PST by GhengisKhan

Perhaps a general war between the Western world and Islam is inevitable. It is obvious that a serious percentage of Muslims, most notably those who follow Osama Bin Laden, feel so. And they are courting such war with glee. Thus, despite efforts by the Bush administration and others aimed at convincing Americans that Islam is a peaceful religion, many, if not most, Americans are unconvinced and hostile - and are rapidly becoming more so. And, if the news is any indication, this is going to get worse, not better, in the future. The administration's rhetoric to one side, all Americans see is an unending litany of terrorist acts all over the world –and all committed by Muslims.

In the days prior to Sept. 11, 2001, most Americans were unaware that Muslim terrorism is a worldwide problem. That has now changed. Just as Pearl Harbor opened American eyes to the dangers of Imperial Japan, Americans now see that Muslims are actively engaged in terrorist actions against the governments of almost every non-Muslim government in the world – and in many Muslim states as well.

Attempts to justify such acts, either by pointing to a perceived failure of America to treat Muslims “fairly”, the U.S. support of Israel, the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia now ring hollow to the majority of Americans. They can see, indeed Muslims have told them, that their one great crime is simply that we have failed to become Muslims. It is no exaggeration to say that a large percentage of Americans -- rapidly becoming the majority-- are now convinced that Muslims mean exactly what they say when they say their goal is to convert the population of the entire planet to Islam - or kill them trying.

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Whoa! I came across this and found it exactly what was needing to be said today. To paraphrase old Snakehead, "it's the inferior culture of Islam!". Enjoy, freepers.
1 posted on 12/03/2002 8:30:29 AM PST by GhengisKhan
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To: GhengisKhan
The pattern that is increasingly being played out in Europe and other locations around the world seems to be for Muslims to inject themselves as a minority into a target society and begin demanding special privileges due to their faith. Of course, they immediately begin proselytizing and demanding that non-Muslims adhere to Islamic codes of behavior out of “respect.”

EXACTLY! And I would add with a helluva lot of help from pasty white liberals who are either embarrassed to be Americans or too stupid to recognize the superiority of Western civilization.
2 posted on 12/03/2002 8:35:27 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: GhengisKhan
I have been saying that for years. The Islamic Jihad or venomous hate is essentially coming from the new contemporary Islam. That was exported world wide by the Iranian revolution, after they controlled their national treasury. It was tome to send hundreds of millions of dollars to spread Islam, by converting Christians. Not to be outdone, the Saudis with their new found petroleum wealth raced into the world Islam mission with billions of dollars.

WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, first, we must recognize that we are not fighting one guy; we are fighting a movement, and will not win unless we eradicated it at the source. The source is the radical teaching, and state funding. If we ignored that that source can be controlled, then we might as well simply give up and convert to Islam tomorrow to reduce the gradual agony.

Second we MUST insist on playing fairly with the Moslem nations. You proselyte in our prisons only if you let us do the same. You build Mosques in our cities only if you let us do the same. You use your national treasury to fund Islamic movement, we, the West must use our multi-trillions treasury to do the same---PROSELYTE CHRISTIANITY! The separation of church and state crowds can simply go to hell! We have more important task at hand than to worry about politically correct policies. In the world of ideas and freedom, Islam will definitely lose. First, because Islam is not suitable to contemporary civilized behaviors or gender equality. Second, because we have more money, and better organization. Let us declare ideological war between Islam, and Christianity. Play fair and open, and let the best man win.


3 posted on 12/03/2002 8:35:28 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: GhengisKhan
I would say to the author of the article that "all bets are not off." Should we go to war w/ Islam, we will win.

A sterling piece. Only quibble is that the author did not address the hate present in the Quran toward non-believers.

HRP

4 posted on 12/03/2002 8:39:27 AM PST by sauropod
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To: philosofy123
Not nearly enough recognize this conflict for what it is. A resurgence by those who hate western values and embrace the blood cult known as Islam.
5 posted on 12/03/2002 8:39:45 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: hellinahandcart
Ping.
6 posted on 12/03/2002 8:40:09 AM PST by sauropod
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To: mgc1122
I'm an evangelical Christian, and yet I strongly believe that there is an advantage to living in a secular society. Every "theocracy" in history has been a den of oppression. A generally secular society guarantees freedom of worship.
7 posted on 12/03/2002 8:41:42 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: sauropod
Only quibble is that the author did not address the hate present in the Quran toward non-believers.

An excellent point. Spot on commentary. Maybe the writer believed that had already been written about enough, but not enough for me.
8 posted on 12/03/2002 8:42:58 AM PST by GhengisKhan
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To: clintonh8r
bump for allah (not)
9 posted on 12/03/2002 8:46:42 AM PST by clintonh8r
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To: GhengisKhan
I don't necessarily see this as a physical war. If governments are installed in the Mideast that disallow the more violent teachings of Islam as being subversive, I think that would go a long way toward resolving the problem.
10 posted on 12/03/2002 8:57:55 AM PST by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties
And non-religious, of course.
11 posted on 12/03/2002 8:59:44 AM PST by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties
A big "IF", don't you think? Kind of like saying if the salt were removed from the ocean, we could drink it. Sorry, but I am not optimistic the Islamics will change their ways.
12 posted on 12/03/2002 9:00:54 AM PST by GhengisKhan
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To: GhengisKhan
Well, I agree with this article almost entirely. In fact I would go further on one point. It says that Islam is the only religion that supports jihad at the present time. As far as I know, Islam is the only major religion that ever supported jihad. It has always done so. The Crusades, in contrast, were essentially defensive wars, intended to drive back the Muslims from Byzantium and the Holy Land, which they had conquered by force. The relations between Islam and the west have always been basically Islamic aggression and western defense. Christians have sometimes fought for their religion, but Christianity has been characteristically spread by conversion, not conquest and enslavement. Only Islam AS A RELIGION advocates forcible conquest and enslavement of the world.

The other point I differ on is that I'm afraid that, while the majority of Americans are waking up to the dangers of Islam, they still aren't ready to face the true situation. It will likely take MORE than another 9/11 before they are prepared for all-out war. But I differ only in thinking that the process will be slower and more bloody than we would prefer. Americans are slow to anger, but when they are roused, watch out.
13 posted on 12/03/2002 9:02:49 AM PST by Cicero
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To: GhengisKhan
I'm going to add a signature to every future post.

"It's Islam stupid"

"It's Islam stupid"
14 posted on 12/03/2002 9:04:15 AM PST by TSgt
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To: philosofy123
Second we MUST insist on playing fairly with the Moslem nations. You proselyte in our prisons only if you let us do the same. You build Mosques in our cities only if you let us do the same.

Exactly. There was a rather fun FR thread about the Saudis insisting on "repciprocity" and finger-printing American tourists to Saudi Arabia. It was suggested that "reciprocity" would require our stealing fout of their airplanes and smashing three of their major buildings. The comments about why anyone would want to be a tourist in Saudi Arabia were also good.

15 posted on 12/03/2002 9:04:28 AM PST by xJones
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To: philosofy123
we, the West must use our multi-trillions treasury to do the same---PROSELYTE CHRISTIANITY! The separation of church and state crowds can simply go to hell!

If you or your church wish to use your private funds to promote your religion, that's your right, but I'm firmly against the use of my tax money to build your churches, pay your priests and ministers, or propagandize your cause.

That said, I've no doubt that we, as a civilization, must deal decisively with Islam. Within this country, Islam should come under the RICO statutes: its assets seized, its leaders imprisoned. On the larger world stage, Islamic governments must be treated as the criminal alliances that they are.

16 posted on 12/03/2002 9:08:01 AM PST by per loin
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To: GhengisKhan
Could be. But it seemed to work for Turkey. Basically, worshipping Mohammed is about equivalent to worshipping Hitler. It would seem to be easy enough to convince the great majority people to disavow the violent aspects of Islam if the right pressure was brought to bear.
17 posted on 12/03/2002 9:09:23 AM PST by Post Toasties
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To: GhengisKhan
Once upon a time, there was an ol' boy named Adolph. He wrote a book, titled Mein Kampf, if which he very carefully outlined his views and plans. Nobody believed it, but he did exactly as he said he would.

Today, we have this group that says they want to kill everyone that doesn't convert to their way. They have very carefully outlined their views and plans. Nobody believes it.

After the world woke up to the threat that Hitler posed, Nazism was defeated and ceased to be in fashion. Had this not happened, the world would have become a death camp.

After the world wakes up to the threat that is-slime poses....ahh, but we have yet to determine that part of the story, eh?

18 posted on 12/03/2002 9:09:24 AM PST by neutrino
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To: Post Toasties
If that means turning the Middle East back into a protectorate to shut down its refractory tendencies permanently, then that's what should be done.
19 posted on 12/03/2002 9:13:38 AM PST by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties
True about Turkey. Ditto for Syria. And both nations demonstrate exactly how far it is necessary to eliminate the threat of radical Islamic fundamentalism.
20 posted on 12/03/2002 9:13:39 AM PST by GhengisKhan
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