Roswell Incident Had Victims, Program Says

AP | 11/22/02

[Quix]

Some of Greer's sources insist that SOME of the abductions are our military and other such groups doing genetic studies; studies of pollutants; studies of genetic manipulation scenarios etc.

And, that some of the ET's are angry with our gov for giving THEIR abductions such a bad name by the dastardly things our gov supposedly does compared to what the ET's do--supposedly, of course. But the sources are quite strong about it.

[Scully]

You people are insane.

lol, but what else comes close to explaining the likes of Lil' Tommy Daschle than a human/alien hybrid?

[crystalk]

The population sleeps on, including those who should know better. Anyone who wants to know the truth can know it. The government has been trying to PUSH the truth out for 55 years as fast as it fears it dares, and if there is a lag in public PULL for information, as recently, then here comes --PUSH-- the govt thru Spielberg or someone, or a new book disclosure-- feeding us more on ET's than even WE wanted to know.

Meanwhile over 200 unknowns a month are reported on ndx, by reliable citizens. Nothing ever goes beyond local news coverage nowadays, of course.

Some years back at our church, someone mentioned a local sighting. One elder said, "If so, there goes our religion." I responded with, "It doesn't do anything to MY religion." Whereupon the Pastor said, "I would tell them about Jesus Christ."

In the KJV Bible, there is a text that says, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." This is a mistranslation. The Greek says, "Go ye into all the COSMOS, and preach the gospel to every creature." Yes, the whole bar scene in Star Wars, if it comes to that.

PS/ You know all the hype about "diversity"? This all began with the abduction of a 16-yr-old Canadian girl in 1959, whose ET captors told her how important diversity was and went into quite some detail. Virtual every buzzword buzzing in our ears since 1947 has buzzed directly from ET sources, to our media and Hollywood and education systems.

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THAT WHOLE AREA GETS FREAKY FAST.

SUPPOSEDLY there's deep levels of ET and Government and Government/ET bases under Dulce NM north of Los Alamos.

Supposedly the ET's involved had a standing agreement with the U.S. government to abduct certain numbers of people per month or whatever; to give our government a list of their names etc.

Supposedly some military type stumbled on evidence that the ET's were violating the agreement wholesale in terms of numbers and in terms of record keeping.

And, there was some sort of stumbling into an area of the deep underground bases where humans were being kept in horrid conditions etc. There was quickly a fire fight with many on both sides being killed.

Supposedly the ET's in control of that deep underground base are reptilian. Supposedly not nice critters at all.

I don't know what to think of all that body of evidence. There's too many people saying too many things for there to be 0.0000% fire with all the smoke. But exactly what the fire REALLY IS--I don't have much of a clue. It's full of lots of interesting if frightful stories.

And all of THAT gets into the whole contention that the planet is covered--especially the western U.S. with deep--as in at a mile deep or more tunnels in which very fast maglev type trains fly about. And a recent book even contends our government has deep under the sea bed tunnels and bases which can hide fleets of subs.

Freaky stuff. Who knows what the truth is.

Some even claim some of the deep underground and undersea ET bases have been there for centuries.

I don't have much of a clue how much of that has any validity. I am beginning to believe there's SOMETHING to SOME of it. What, I don't know.

[crystalk]

What were the beginning and ending dates of the Dulce-Groom Wars?

[Quix]

NO, NO, NO.

DASHOLE is a hybrid between the reptilian Dracos and the insectoids. But not the Insectoid ruler class--but the insectoid organic robotic drones.

But actually he's not even a hybrid--he'd be the afterbirth of such a hybrid if there was such a thing--which there isn't because of the test-tube gestation etc.

[Quix]

THANKS BIG.

I get tired of carrying this torch so solitarily.

[Scully]

DASHOLE is a hybrid between the reptilian Dracos and the insectoids. But not the Insectoid ruler class--but the insectoid organic robotic drones.

Hmmm...you seem to have a great deal of information. Perhaps you would care to chat with me and Mulder at some future date about these insectoids?

[Scully]

Some years back at our church, someone mentioned a local sighting. One elder said, "If so, there goes our religion."

This is very curious to me. I have heard others saying the same things, that their religion would be compromised by the discovery of life elsewhere in the Universe...and I wonder, where is their faith? If they believe in an omnipotent God who created everything (and can do whatever he pleases), why should we be the only life he created? Very odd indeed...

[crystalk]

Sure, it is secular humanism that goes poof. Humanism teaches that man is the measure of all things, and above all that MAN IS THE HIGHEST OF THE BEINGS.

That at least did go crash at Roswell in 1947!

PS/To see recent sightings by month, usually 200 or 300 a month, in the words of the witnesses themselves, check out

http://nuforc.org/webreports/ndxevent.html

Outside Roswell, the monument put up in July 1997 says:

We don't know who they were

We don't know why they came

We only know our view of the universe

Will never be the same.

"Dedicated July 1997 to the beings that met their destinies in July 1947 outside Roswell, New Mexico."

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Oh Goodness. I don't know. I just got a new book on that.

Haven't started it. Let me go get it and see if I can scan to that quickly.

To me, this whole Branton, Dulce etc. stuff is on even my fringe area. I don't know what to make of it.

But I also know super flakey stuff has often had more than a grain of truth to it so I try to stay somewhat aware of what's being claimed in that sphere of ???reality???

"Between 1979 & 1983 it became increasingly obvious to MU12 that things were not going as planned. IT BECAME KNOWN THAT MANY MORE PEOPLE [IN THE THOUSANDS] WERE BEING ABDUCTED THAN WERE LISTED ON THE OFFICIAL ABDUCTION LISTS." [Q NOTE--QUOTE EXACT--NOT Q'S EMPHASIS]

"IN 1979 THERE WAS AN ALTERCATION OF SORTS AT THE DULCE LABORATORY. A SPECIAL ARMED FORCES UNIT WAS CALLED IN TO TRY AND FREE A NUMBER OF OUR PEOPLE TRAPPED IN THE FACILIT, WHO HAD BECOME AWARE OF WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON. ACCORDING TO ONE COURCE 66 OF THE SOLDIERS WERE KILLED AND OUR PEOPLE WERE NOT FREED."

"By 1984, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they had made in dealing with the EBE's. They had subtly promoted Close Encounters of the Third Kind and E.T. to get the public used to odd looking aliens that were compassionate, benevolent and very much our 'space brothers.' MJ-12 sold the EBE's to the public, and were now faced with the fact THAT QUITE THE OPPOSITE WAS TRUE."

"In addition, a plan was formulated in 1968 to make the public aware of the existence of aliens on earth over the next 20 years to be culminated with several documentaries to be released during 1985-1987 period of time. These documentaries would explain the history and intentions of the EBE's. The discovery of the GRAND DECEPTION put the entire plans, hopes and dreams of MJ-12 into utter confusion and panic."
"Meeting at the 'Country Club,' a remote lodge with private golf course, comfortable sleeping and working quarters, and its own private airstrip built by and exclusively for the members of MJ-12, it was a fational fight of what to do now. PART OF MJ-12 WANTED TO CONFESS THE WHOLE SCHEME AND SHAMBLES IT HAD BECOME TO THE PUBLIC, BEG THEIR FORGIVENESS AND ASK FOR THEIR SUPPORT."

from pp28-29 of: THE DULCE WARS: Underground Alien Bases & the Battle for Planet Earth by Branton, Introduction by Commander X. (C) 1999.

--right--wheeeeeeee yiao! Alice, where'd the rabbit hole go and where's Kansas.

[Quix]

Let me see if this will link:

http://nuforc.org/webreports/ndxevent.html

Blessings,

[crystalk]

Basically, you're right. 1979 thru 1986.

Construction of the Dulce base (or extensions of it, I ought to say) were responsible for the so-called Durango Hum of those and earlier years.

For a time, the Greys were expelled from Archuleta Mesa but are now returned to the deeper levels so I am told. (at least 7 layers to the cake there)

[Quix]

Have read tons of books and articles on it.

But what do I know!?! How can I know.

Sometimes I have a sense in my spirit that something is true or not. But mostly I just read and put it all on a shelf and wait and see what puzzle pieces fit together with what others; what falls off the shelf as fact etc.

Most of it is still on the shelf.

Happy to dialogue whenever convenient.
Blessings,

[Quix]

I quite agree. There's even a verse or two in the Bible implying other worlds and peoples. I think one was quoted above.

But many religionists worship their religion out of insecurity. They can "hold" they think--unconsciously--their religion--it has a pseudotangibility to it. . . and they end up worshipping the religion instead of God. Then God ends up in a very tiny little box of their own creation. Sigh.

[Quix]

You sound like you know a lot more than I do--from very reliable sources? Current sources?

Isn't that a bit dangerous, if so?

How many sources?

[crystalk]

The Bible is full of references to the other unfallen worlds of God.

Try any Hebrew concordance under the word Olam and its plural, Olamim. "planet, planetary conjunction or clash"

This word is often translated "eternal" or "everlasting" in the KJV so that is a code-word. There are others.

Bible refers to "the heat sources of Olam," a specific planet where it is nowhere near a star and has its own internal heat.

Bible says, "Cursed be Meroz, and cursed be its inhabitants."

In the Book of Job, a heavenly congress assembles with a representative from each planet, and Satan [as God of This World] attends on behalf of Earth...

[Quix]

Someone I know who has an awesome walk with God and has had virtually all her life--told me she knew that there was evil in other places of the universe than earth.

That was a bit mind boggling at first.

But thinking about it--why all the serious training in this bootcamp about spiritual warfare? Why the super intense priority to rule and reign over a creation with a priority currency of Love and forgiveness. It's not just to sit on clouds and play harps!

[crystalk]

Which is more dangerous, to know or not to know?

As to the Tunnels and Vats question, the Bible says "The dark places of the Earth are full of the Habitations of Cruelty."

The contents of the stinking vats are said to include not just slaughterhouse by products from our vast beef industry, but also abortion by products from our vast fetal tissue industry. It was in order to get the promised amounts of fetal tissue we had to give them under the various Greada treaties (1954 and amendments over 20 yrs+) as amended, that ROE ever had to WADE if you see what I mean.

[crystalk]

"I saw Satan as a star fall FROM heaven."

"But woe unto you Earth and Sea, for the Devil has COME DOWN TO YOU having great wrath, for he knows he has only a short time."

Thus Sin and the Devil did not originate on Earth. "and there was war IN HEAVEN, and Michael and his angels fought, and the Devil fought, and his angels."

The only Hebrew word for "heaven" is ha-shmayim, which means not so much a place of paradise or peaceful reward, as a certain area right here in the Solar System aka known as the Asteroid Belt, rakiya, or Bracelet.

This is related to the Heb. mayim, water... which didn't use to be in here this close to the sun [in this quantity], and must have come or fallen in from there.

This also relates to the present desolate and uninhabited, destroyed, condition of Mars, of which we are kabbalistically told, "What Earth is, Mars once Was. What Mars is, Earth will Be."

Refs. to book of Peter in NT, which says this earth will be incinerated. Isaiah, says the wicked will be ashes under the feet of the righteous.