1 posted on
11/21/2002 11:50:11 AM PST by
Ready2go
To: Ready2go
Yes, but when are they going to release info about the Ark of the Covenant, which rumor has it was stored away in a government warehouse during WWII?
Seriously, looking at shapes in the snow on a mountain is like looking for faces in cloud patterns. You can see anything you want to see if you look around enough and look hard enough (IMHO).
2 posted on
11/21/2002 11:59:54 AM PST by
SteveH
To: Ready2go
Perhaps they dont want it release 1) because it is inconclusive and 2) because the nation of Turkey has in the past not been very interested in having treasure hunters or even legit archeologists running around in that area where there are still hostilities between the Turks and Kurd rebels.
Also, Turkey is polulated by moslems who know that they are descendants of Noah. They dont need scientific truth of that. Why do us Westerners seem to feel they need to be able to point to the ark in order to believe?
3 posted on
11/21/2002 12:17:21 PM PST by
Dave S
To: Ready2go
Perhaps they dont want it release 1) because it is inconclusive and 2) because the nation of Turkey has in the past not been very interested in having treasure hunters or even legit archeologists running around in that area where there are still hostilities between the Turks and Kurd rebels.
Also, Turkey is polulated by moslems who know that they are descendants of Noah. They dont need scientific truth of that. Why do us Westerners seem to feel they need to be able to point to the ark in order to believe?
4 posted on
11/21/2002 12:17:25 PM PST by
Dave S
To: Ready2go
Perhaps they dont want it release 1) because it is inconclusive and 2) because the nation of Turkey has in the past not been very interested in having treasure hunters or even legit archeologists running around in that area where there are still hostilities between the Turks and Kurd rebels.
Also, Turkey is polulated by moslems who know that they are descendants of Noah. They dont need scientific truth of that. Why do us Westerners seem to feel they need to be able to point to the ark in order to believe?
5 posted on
11/21/2002 12:17:25 PM PST by
Dave S
To: Ready2go
Quickbird was scheduled to image the anomaly also. I have not heard anything about it in the last year though. Anyone know if those shots were taken or have been released?
6 posted on
11/21/2002 12:24:35 PM PST by
ZGuy
To: Ready2go
Please, if we know exactly where it is, why waist time looking at sat photos. You send in a team and confirm it. Mount Ararat is not like Everest or K-2 and since the exact location is known the expedition could be done in less than a week.
As for the Kerds, I don't think they would mess with a US expedition right now. We would have to include some Turks for the permissions. Might as well send in the I-Max team as well just for fun.
If anything were there it would have been discovered long ago. Think of the tourist dollars Turkey could rake in.
Lets just push Geraldo out of a helicopter and let him look.
8 posted on
11/21/2002 1:05:17 PM PST by
usurper
To: Ready2go
I have a question for those that believe in the literal view of the truth of this story. The ark according to the NIV was 450 feet long by 75 feet wide by 45 feet high having three decks of 15 feet. The square feet area of a deck, 33,750 sq ft. is smaller than a modern football field with the field dimensons being 120 by 360, 43,200sq ft. Now on this ark was not only all the animals of the earth in pair but also Noah and family and provisions to last the more than 250 days until the door is opened. Now the total deck surface of the ark is 33,750 x 3 equals 101,250 square feet. And the total volume is 101,250 times 15 or 1,518,750 cubic feet (56,250 cubic yards). Is it possible to store all the animals and provisions for the time period in this space?
To: Ready2go
Here is the photo that first located the anomaly. It was taken by a US Air Force mission on June 19,1949
Hete is a photo from space taken by the satellite Ikonos on August 11, 2000.
To: Ready2go
For further information on my #10 post. There are approximately the following species that had to be on the ark.
251,000 insects
123,000 antrapoda (spiders, mites)
12,000 flatworms
12,000 roundworms
12,000 earthworms
9,000 birds
6,300 reptiles
4,184 amphpia
4,000 mammals
Multiply each by 2 and remember that provisions were also needed. Now just assuming 8,000 mammals that means there is just 12 sq ft (3.5 ft x 3.5 ft) for each mammal and provisions for that mammal. In that space would need to be at least 2 amphia, 3 reptiles, 4 birds, 18 worms, plus insects.
To: Ready2go
I am a believer with multiple graduate degrees, though none in science. I put myself basically in the "undecided" camp on the questions of the earth's age and some of the hotter creation controversies.
I have found this web site quite useful: www.icr.org.
The only criticism is that it is probably over the head for a non-scientist. But if nothing else it has given me a good resource to go to for education on all issues related to the various creation controversies.
To: Ready2go
CIA Releases New 'Noah's Ark' DocumentsAll I can say is tell the CIA to forget about Noah's Ark and concentrate on the DAMNED ISLAMIC TERRORISTS!
To: Ready2go
Let me guess - Algore is saying he discovered Noah's ark.
106 posted on
11/22/2002 3:15:33 PM PST by
joonbug
To: Ready2go
Wow. Religious fundamentalists seem determined to make themselves look foolish. Dinosaurs on the Ark; the entire globe covered in water. Yawn.
Anyway, who says this is Noah's Ark? I say it's Utnapishtim's Ark, as testified by the epic of Gilgamesh, which predates the Bible by a few thousand years. The "Old Testament" Bible is just a collection of old Babylonian and Sumerian myths collected by Jewish scholars during the period of Persian rule, reinterpreted by them under the then newfangled "monotheism" (or dualism) of the then new and dominant "revealed" religion of Zoroaster. Judaism as we know it is old Israelite polytheism reinterpreted with ideas copied from the Zoroastrians, and later from Greek philosophy. Nothing original here. Time to move on.
To: Ready2go
This article reads like a fund raising pamphlet aimed at gullible fundamentalist Christians (but I repeat myself). Someone is going to make a mint huckstering expeditions to find "Noah's Ark" which will somehow never produce anything except more appeals for more funding.
G.K. Chesterton got it completely backwards: those who believe in some things will believe in almost anything, provided it reinforces their belief. Tertullian's "I believe it because it is absurd" hits closer to the mark.
To: Ready2go
135 posted on
05/31/2015 4:45:36 PM PDT by
Little Ray
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