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Ya gotta understand...if the election doesn't turn out her way, it's not because the voters rejected her ideas. No, it's that her party was inarticulate. What a twit.
1 posted on 11/17/2002 10:24:31 PM PST by Jack of Clubs
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To: Jack of Clubs
This is a no talent washed out hag with a mouth the size of a toilet and a brain the size of a pimple.
2 posted on 11/17/2002 10:26:26 PM PST by friendly
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What a joke. Who cares what kind of brain fart that high school dropout has? The ignorant slut is completely irrelevant.
3 posted on 11/17/2002 10:28:58 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Jack of Clubs
Was she even sober enough..to find a voting booth, herself ??
4 posted on 11/17/2002 10:30:17 PM PST by Coto
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To: Jack of Clubs
I think in a round-about way she is saying, "You peons are not as smart as me! Now you will be punished!"
5 posted on 11/17/2002 10:31:27 PM PST by Mark
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To: Jack of Clubs
.....................BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
7 posted on 11/17/2002 10:32:32 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Jack of Clubs
Hey, Babs' spell check must have been working! I didn't see any misspelled words. Unfortunately, her "reality" check wasn't working!
8 posted on 11/17/2002 10:33:06 PM PST by Theresawithanh
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To: Jack of Clubs
The Barbara Streisand Family Values theme didn't go over real well this election.

Keep talking Babs !
10 posted on 11/17/2002 10:33:39 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Jack of Clubs
the poor, working and middle-class Americans that make up the great majority of our country.

And also constitute the vast majority of Babs' servants.

11 posted on 11/17/2002 10:35:36 PM PST by laurav
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To: Jack of Clubs
she said, "They never articulated what it was we were voting for, ..."

If "they never articulated what we were voting for," then how could you vote for them?

These idiots can't connect the dots. Is it me, or are these people nuts?

12 posted on 11/17/2002 10:38:30 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Jack of Clubs
Babs babbling on...oh those memories!
13 posted on 11/17/2002 10:38:32 PM PST by Cindy
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"The Republicans have done this well...even though what they stand for is against the interests of most Americans"

Is Streisand saying here that the voters are too stupid to understand what is in their best interests?
What breathtaking arrogance.

14 posted on 11/17/2002 10:38:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Hey Babs...your House and Senate are belong to us!!!
15 posted on 11/17/2002 10:40:04 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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The truly shocking thing is that the Dems are willing to be seen in public paying attention to Babs. However much money she raises, it can't be worth it. Make her wear a mask and disguise her voice. Anything but let the public associate politicians who want to appear to be serious with such a lightweight, self-important, narcissistic twit. I hope they keep bowing to her, Clinton, and Gore. The face of the Democratic Party.
17 posted on 11/17/2002 10:41:07 PM PST by Starrgaizr
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"The Democratic Party was not able to articulate a clear message"

They most certainly did. What they articulated was anti-War on Terror, anti-tax cut, anti-2nd Amendment, and anti-American.

18 posted on 11/17/2002 10:43:54 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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All this, and just below it she prides herself on having raised record-setting amounts of cash. For people who can't get a message out with it.
19 posted on 11/17/2002 10:45:40 PM PST by lainie
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They did not allow the American people to make a meaningful choice. They never articulated what it was we were voting for, and in doing so they failed to motivate their base to go to the polls.

Yah, we did, and your mouth was the motivation that got many of us to the polls. You're just like the RAT leaders!! Your arrogance runs your mouth and blinds you to the reality of the message the American public was sending. You'll continue to run your mouth and end up in the same losing position in `04 - can't wait!!!

20 posted on 11/17/2002 10:46:00 PM PST by Rockyrich
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What Barbara is trying to say is this...

The Dems didn't race bait enough.

They didn't demagogue the intent to go after Hussein enough.

They didn't defend Arafat and trash Israel enough.

They didn't stand up for peace or trash our military enough.

They didn't challenge enough military votes as they did in 2000.

They didn't advocate taking money from the rich (anyone making over $20,000 a year) enough.

They didn't advocate illegal allien's rights enough.

They didn't advocate another giveaway program on the order of SS or Medicare enough, namely prescriptions drugs for free.

They didn't call Bush enough names.

They didn't slander everyone who supported him enough.

In short, nobody does enough but Barbara and her bullhorn mouth "AGAIN!"

Could it be Barbara, you guys were selling and nobody was buying it anymore?
 

22 posted on 11/17/2002 10:51:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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It is a sad time. The Democratic Party was not able to articulate a clear message - was not able to convey the very real and very many differences between the two parties. They did not allow the American people to make a meaningful choice. They never articulated what it was we were voting for, and in doing so they failed to motivate their base to go to the polls. The Republicans, on the other hand, spoke directly to their constituency and gave them a reason to vote.

The problem for the democrats was that they did articulate a clear message. But the message was not one the American people liked. DemocRATS in Baghdad saying Saddam was more trustworthy than the President, blocking a Homeland Security bill in a time of war, a majority of democRATS voting against the Iraq resolution, the worst record ever for judicial conformations, etc. These are the “many differences between the two parties” and the American people saw and chose the “meaningful choice” the Republicans offered.

Instead of standing up to the Republicans and indicating their differences, the Democrats went along with the president on tax cuts and Iraq- and were voted out anyway. The American people want leaders - they want people who convey a strong message and stand for something. The Republicans have done this well...even though what they stand for is against the interests of most Americans. Now it is time for the Democrats to stop operating out of fear.

Again, the democRATS did “stand up to the Republicans” and indicate “their differences.” It is just that the American people decided they liked the Republican message better. Also, again, the democRATS did not go “along with the president on tax cuts and Iraq,” the majority of democRATS voted against both of these resolutions.

Because the differences are there. The Republicans are excited to, in Trent Lott's words, "roll" their agenda through the Congress. And it's an agenda all of us will have to live with - for the worse. Tax cuts for the rich, destruction of the environment, a prescription drug plan that covers only a very small percentage of seniors, an inadequate pension reform bill, an overly aggressive foreign policy - that's all on the agenda.

Yes, “the differences are there” and the American people saw that clearly and chose the Republican vision for the country. The Republicans would be betraying the interests of the American people if they did not now try to implement the agenda that the people voted for. Tax cuts for everybody who pays taxes, not only “for the rich” (Barbra Streisand is richer than most of us will ever hope to be); sensible environmental regulations balancing costs and benefits, not a “destruction of the environment;” a prescription drug plan that covers only those who need help, not everybody (including “the rich” like Barbra Streisand); a sensible pension reform bill, not a draconian pension reform bill; and a foreign policy that recognizes the reality of a post 9/11 world. That’s “all on the agenda.”

And there is a horde of extremist federal judicial nominees, deemed by the Democratically-controlled Senate as too conservative for confirmation, just waiting to get rushed through the nomination process. These judges are guaranteed to threaten our civil liberties, a woman's right to choose, civil rights and environmental protection. And they will be around long after the president is gone.

Well, the American people decided to give back the Senate to the Republicans in part (in large part IMO) just because the “Democratically-controlled Senate” would not confirm good judges who the President had nominated. Only in the fantasy world of Barbra Streisand would these judges be seen as a threat to “civil liberties, a woman's right to choose, civil rights and environmental protection.” But since the American people have now given the power to the Republican-controlled senate to make the determination who should be confirmed, it makes no difference what the Democratically-controlled Senate thought of the nominees. Plus, we need to get these nominees “rushed through the nomination process” to make up for the last 18 months of the democRATS obstructionism.

So as we move forward, I, for one, will continue to urge the Democrats, even as, or especially as, the minority/opposition party, to be vocal in conveying the differences to the American public. Because this is not the time to give up fighting for what is important. There is too much at stake. The Democrats must once again return to their roots as a strong and directed party fighting for the betterment of the poor, working and middle-class Americans that make up the great majority of our country.

I hope the democRATS continue to “be vocal in conveying the differences to the American public.” It was these very differences that caused the Republican victories in the last election. And of the three groups Streisand mentioned, the poor are the only people democRATS fight for. The “working and middle-class Americans that make up the great majority of our country” are the people the democRATS tax to provide the benefits to the poor so they can buy their votes with tax dollars.

The Democrats who stood up to the president and showed strong opposition leadership were the ones that won on Tuesday. Hopefully, by 2004, the party - and the people - will get the message.

The majority of democRATS who “stood up to the president and showed strong opposition leadership” that were reelected were in safe seats. For the majority of democRATS, opposition to the President meant defeat.
24 posted on 11/17/2002 11:22:33 PM PST by Badger1
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Tax cuts for the rich, destruction of the environment...

She's got all the little propaganda jingles down pat- that's for sure.

I get comical imagery all the time that accompanies my thinking process. I probably should've been a cartoonist except I can't doodle for squat.

Anyway, I got the image of what it is Babs thinks is going to happen now: Sometime in late January in the Senate- Trent Lott asks for a vote on Senate Resolution 666- "Destruction of the Environment". Key proposals in the resolution- immediately begin pumping sewerage, chemicals, battery acid etc into all lakes rivers and resevoirs. All trees to be cut down. All critters to be hunted down and shot etc etc etc.

Senate Resolution 666.5- Tax cut for the Rich. Key items in the resolution- all rich white folk to be exempted from paying taxes forever. All shortfalls in gov't revenues to be made up by increasing the tax on poor, minority single working mothers to 100%...

Senate resolution 666.75- "General Aggression and Mayhem in the World" key points- attack New Zealand, nuke the Vatican, Conquer Tahiti...

It makes me laugh- but in a way it's scary because the libs probably really see it like that.

26 posted on 11/17/2002 11:41:47 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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"They did not allow the American people to make a meaningful choice." (They = democrats)

American people WERE allowed to make a "meaningful choice."

They DID see the differences, understood them, and decided that Republicans, generally, would better provide straong national security. They were right.

The major cause for the democrat losses, was failure to stand with the President, except for a brief few weeks post 9/11/01, on national security.

Max Cleland's defeat illustrates this point. And if under Pelosi and Daschle, in two years it continues to be the case, the democrats will lose ground, again.

Call it survival instinct.
27 posted on 11/18/2002 12:02:29 AM PST by truth_seeker
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