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Carter: U.S. perceived as 'too arrogant'
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Posted on 11/16/2002 6:12:08 AM PST by mikenola

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:01:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: mikenola
We should be MORE arrogant!
Instead of just sending money, we should attach conditions to the use of that money.
Then (new concept) enforce those conditions and pull the funding when they're not met.
The policy announcement would go something like this:

We've spent decades and billions of dollars to alleviate suffering and improve conditions around the world.
Too often the money is diverted for the personal use and excesses of corrupt leadership.
Our new policy will ensure that the intended results are achieved or the funding will stop.
This is true compassion!
There will be howls of protest from those who are no longer able to steal from the poor, the oppressed, and the needy.
They will accuse the U.S. of arrogance.
It is not.
It is responsible management of limited resources.
61 posted on 11/16/2002 8:25:19 AM PST by G Larry
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To: mikenola
An intelligent human being will learn from his mistakes as well as those of others as he ages and matures, until at an age that (for example) Jimmy Carter has reached, he will understand a lot about how the world works, in terms of physics and human nature.
One glaring hallmark of liberals and socialists is that this does not appear to happen with them. The same tunnel vision and short-sighted attitudes seem to stay with them for life.
The "third world" has all the evidence it needs that our system works and produces wealth for those willing to work for it, but as we saw in the TV special "We're Number One" presented by John Stossel, the rest of the world just doesn't seem to get it. They stick to their beliefs that their socialistic system is better. Mostly this is due to corruption, like with Castro, but to a large extent it's simply because the classic "guns and butter" mix cannot be decided effectively by committee vote.
The secret is economic and social freedom, and it is the reason we are number one. A classic difference between us and the rest of the world is as pointed out by a friend of mine from Venezuela: "In other countries, the people are told what they CAN do; in America they are told what they CAN'T do."
Big difference, and one that the rest of the world apparently cannot - or will not - grasp. They prefer to be like the beggars on the street, without a clue that getting up and finding a job would solve their problems.
Frankly, Mr. Carter doesn't seem to grasp this distinction either. I wish he would just go home, sit down, and shut up.
62 posted on 11/16/2002 8:27:44 AM PST by Marauder
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To: Grampa Dave
You're right, absolutely. Your description of him just makes me rageful, I detest the disgraceful bastard so much I can hardly speak. GRRR.

By the way, I just love the way you put all that...bravo.

63 posted on 11/16/2002 8:28:58 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: chance33_98
US: Carter perceived to be stupid.

US: Still feeling stupid for electing the wuss in the first place.

64 posted on 11/16/2002 8:30:35 AM PST by uglybiker
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To: InterceptPoint
No. 11 Please do not insult the peanut!
65 posted on 11/16/2002 8:30:37 AM PST by Cannon6
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To: Marauder
Your friend from Venezuela made an excellent summation:

"In other countries, the people are told what they CAN do; in America they are told what they CAN'T do."

It's interesting that this gives Americans a CAN DO attitude and the rest a can't do.

66 posted on 11/16/2002 8:43:23 AM PST by Sal
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To: TheEngineer
People around the world perceive the United States as "too arrogant" and "too self-centered" . . . former President Jimmy Carter said in an interview to air Friday.

Ok, Jimmy...who are these "people" to which you refer?

. . . "I think they feel that we don't really care about them, which is quite often true."

Ahh, that's the problem...we just don't care about them. Only Carter, Clinton, et al are qualified to care.

He added, "They all know -- the ones that are educated -- that among the developed, industrialized nations on earth, the United States is at the bottom . . .in providing humanitarian aid for peace and for human rights and for housing and for health and education."

"The ones that are educated.."? What a snob.

Carter . . .also noted that the United States gives only one one-thousandth of its gross national product for international assistance, while the average European country gives four times as much. "For every time an American gives a dollar, a citizen of Norway gives $17," he said.

Jimmy, tell me about Norway's version of the Marshall Plan.

"Foreign aid in this country has a bad name, but in other countries, it's a right thing for the government to do. And that's where we at the Carter Center quite often have to turn."

Where would the world be without the Carter Center?

Carter also said that recent admissions by North Korean officials that they have pushed ahead with developing nuclear capability came as a surprise to him.

A surprise?

However, Carter said he does not believe the North Koreans actually have, or want to build, nuclear weapons.

What a gullible ass.

"My belief is ... that it is primarily a kind of a threat to bring attention to themselves as a negotiating ploy," said Carter. . .

What a stupid, gullible ass.

"It was a serious mistake on their part, and from every information that I have, the North Koreans would like to get out of this problem and have some genuine negotiations with our country and others."

What a stupid, naive, gullible ass.

Carter also expressed concern about the contest for control of Israel's governing Likud party. . .which he characterized as "each one trying to outdo the other about how they can be most abusive toward the Palestinians and avoid any relations of a negotiating nature with [Palestinian leader Yasser] Arafat."

Negotiating nature? With Arafat?! What would you negotiate, Jimmy -- that he reduce his suicide bombings by 20%?

What a stupid, naive, dangerous, gullible ass!

67 posted on 11/16/2002 8:44:36 AM PST by Jack of Clubs
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To: gaspar
I would like to know how Carter arrives at this analyis. I can only assume its using a per capita analysis.

In 1998 , Norway spent $1.4 billion on foreign aid, that's apx. $309 per capita.

By contrast, the United States spent $6.9 billion on foreign aid (second only to Japan), coming out to only $25 per capita.

As you point out, most of Norway's cash comes not from taxation by petrochemical revenue, whereas the U.S. aid comes largely from the pockets of the American people.

So, as a moral judgement, I would say the American people have done more than their fair share helping the "developing" world. Especially considering what we get in return , i.e., terrorism, anti-Americanism.

68 posted on 11/16/2002 8:45:41 AM PST by mikenola
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To: TheEngineer
People around the world perceive the United States as "too arrogant" and "too self-centered" . . . former President Jimmy Carter said in an interview to air Friday.

Ok, Jimmy...who are these "people" to which you refer?

. . . "I think they feel that we don't really care about them, which is quite often true."

Ahh, that's the problem...we just don't care about them. Only Carter, Clinton, et al are qualified to care.

He added, "They all know -- the ones that are educated -- that among the developed, industrialized nations on earth, the United States is at the bottom . . .in providing humanitarian aid for peace and for human rights and for housing and for health and education."

"The ones that are educated.."? What a snob.

Carter . . .also noted that the United States gives only one one-thousandth of its gross national product for international assistance, while the average European country gives four times as much. "For every time an American gives a dollar, a citizen of Norway gives $17," he said.

Jimmy, tell me about Norway's version of the Marshall Plan.

"Foreign aid in this country has a bad name, but in other countries, it's a right thing for the government to do. And that's where we at the Carter Center quite often have to turn."

Where would the world be without the Carter Center?

Carter also said that recent admissions by North Korean officials that they have pushed ahead with developing nuclear capability came as a surprise to him.

A surprise?

However, Carter said he does not believe the North Koreans actually have, or want to build, nuclear weapons.

What a gullible ass.

"My belief is ... that it is primarily a kind of a threat to bring attention to themselves as a negotiating ploy," said Carter. . .

What a stupid, gullible ass.

"It was a serious mistake on their part, and from every information that I have, the North Koreans would like to get out of this problem and have some genuine negotiations with our country and others."

What a stupid, naive, gullible ass.

Carter also expressed concern about the contest for control of Israel's governing Likud party. . .which he characterized as "each one trying to outdo the other about how they can be most abusive toward the Palestinians and avoid any relations of a negotiating nature with [Palestinian leader Yasser] Arafat."

Negotiating nature? With Arafat?! What would you negotiate, Jimmy -- that he reduce his suicide bombings by 20%?

What a stupid, naive, dangerous, gullible ass!

69 posted on 11/16/2002 8:45:58 AM PST by Jack of Clubs
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To: Grampa Dave
I agree with your #59. WRT both Carter and Clinton I believe you can't really call them failed presidents unless you know what their goals really were. Both the Peanut and the Traitor Trash were pretty effective IMO, given their actual goals. Fortunately, Reagan more than reversed the Peanut's "success" and W seems to be making headway on the Trash's.
70 posted on 11/16/2002 8:47:48 AM PST by Sal
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To: mikenola
Carter: U.S. perceived as 'too arrogant'

U.S.: Carter perceived as 'too ignorant'
71 posted on 11/16/2002 8:48:21 AM PST by aruanan
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To: jwfiv
Thanks for your kind words.

I have felt this way about Carter as soon as I saw him allowing the Iranian Islamofascist Mullahs take over our embassy and do nothing.

Also, we had a friend in the CIA who got outed due to Admiral Stansfield releasing data about our good agents in other countries. This friend and his family baring got out the country they were in. His cover was that he was with the embassy. The leak that was in the left wing fishwraps and eventually a book, could have led to his murder and that of his family. He was one of many good CIA agents outed during Stansfield/Carter's deballing and outing of good CIA agents.

Even conservatives didn't want to hear what I have felt about him until recently. Conservatives are waking up to him and so are a lot of moderates.

If Reagan had not defeated Carter and then destroyed the evil empire, we would probably not be the America that we still are.
72 posted on 11/16/2002 8:50:49 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: G Larry
"We should be MORE arrogant! Instead of just sending money, we should attach conditions to the use of that money. Then (new concept) enforce those conditions and pull the funding when they're not met.

Actually, this is EXACTLY what is starting to be done. I don't know if it is unique to the Bush administration, or started before he took office, but it IS happening.

73 posted on 11/16/2002 8:56:13 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Sal
The best unanswered question is how did two worthless Rat governors become our Presidents.

Who really financed them and protected them to get them elected. Before they ran for the presidency, no one really knew them. They had the full support of the left wing fish wraps, phoney news mags and of course, ABCNNBCCBS.

Hopefully one of these days we will see the financial dots connected re their unknown supporters here and in other parts of the world.

President Reagan was not able to disable and dismantle the stranglehold given to the Watermelon Green Jihadists by Carter. They have negatively impacted our ability to decrease our dependence on Opecker Oil and have kept us from building needed new gasoline refineries. Then in Kalifornicator they and the rat Moonbeam Brown set up the current electricity supply problem. Brown and the envirals stopped and block the building of any new power plants with Brown's Era of limits. Then under the guise of Cal Epa for clean air either closed a lot of older power plants or limited them to running just a few days each month or per year.

Then when Kalifornicator was flooded with about 6 to 10 million illegal aliens who used power the minute they came across the border, we started towards the blackouts suffered in 2001. Only our current recession is keeping the lights on. Closed businesses and business running less than before, don't use much electrical power.

Carter's enabling of the Watermelon Jihadists to control our energy policy without being elected continues to hurt this country.
74 posted on 11/16/2002 9:01:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: mikenola
Jimmy Carter: "Useful Idiot" or "Traitor"?

"[Marshall Tito] is a man who believes in human rights.
[He is] a great and courageous leader [who] has led his people
and protected their freedom almost for the last 40 years."

-- Carter, while still in office, hailing Yugoslavia's communist dictator

"Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and
politics ... We believe in enhancing human rights."

-- Carter comparing himself to Romania's dictator Nicolae Ceausescu

"Our concept of human rights is preserved in [Communist] Poland."
-- Carter speaking to Stalinist Edward Gierek, Poland's First Secretary

"[I am] ashamed of what my country has done to your country."
-- Carter speaking to Haitian dictator Lt. Gen. Raoul Cedras

"I don't see that they [the North Koreans] are an outlaw nation."
-- Carter in North Korea, lauding Stalinist Kim Il Sung,
   one of the most destructive and repressive dictators in history

"Ill-informed commentators in both countries have cast the other side
as a villain and have even forecast inevitable confrontation
between the two nations."

-- Carter making exquisite moral equivalence between the giant and
   repressive Chinese Communist state and America

Carter gave away US oversight of the Panama Canal, "the most
important waterway in the world," says Adm. Thomas H. Moorer (ret),
which is now "packed with Chinese communists."

Sadat, appalled that Carter wanted the Soviets in on Middle East peace
negotiations, decided to directly offer peace to Israel's Begin. When
their plan was essentially worked out, they then called the White House,
because obviously, "they needed someone to pay the bill" (Bernard Lewis).

Not resting on his laurels, Carter demanded the Shah of Iran step down
and turn over power to the Ayatollah Khomeini, an Islamic madman. Carter
had the Pentagon tell the Shah's top military commanders - about 150 of
them - to acquiesce to the Ayatollah and not fight him. The Shah's
military listened to Carter. ALL OF THEM were murdered in one of the
Ayatollah's first acts. By allowing the Shah to fall, Carter created one
of the most militant anti-American dictatorships ever. Soon the new Iranian
government was ransacking our embassy and held hostage its staff for over
a year. More than 20,000 pro-Western Iranians were put before firing
squads. With the Shah gone, the whole region was destabilized.

Iraq took advantage of the Shah's departure to invade Iran, a war that
killed more than 500,000 people. It also created the regional instabilities
that led to Iraq’s later invasion of Kuwait and to Operation Desert Storm,
which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands more. But Carter meant well.

In the closing days of the 1980 election, Carter's White House contacted
the Soviets in a quid pro quo to plead for assistance in stopping Reagan
from winning. In 1984, Carter himself visited Soviet Ambassador Dobrynin
to ask the Soviets to intervene on behalf of Democrats. Damning evidence
that Jimmy Carter, as both president and citizen, may have committed treason
by enlisting the help of our enemies in presidential elections.

Since leaving office, Carter has:
- praised Syria's late Assad (killer of at least 20,000 in Hama)
- praised Ethiopian tyrant Mengistu (killer of many more than that)
- secured Saudi funding for Arafat after he sided with Iraq against the US
- wrote the UN Security Council after Iraq invaded Kuwait, urging them
to thwart President Bush's pre-Gulf War coalition (designed to reverse
that act of aggression) - another action some called "treason"

"Our people, who face Israeli bullets, have no weapons: only a few stones
remaining when our homes are destroyed by Israeli bulldozers."

-- from a speech written by Carter for Yassir Arafat

"[Arafat's] election [was] democratic, well organized, open and fair."
-- Carter describing the "rigged" 1996 Palestinian election

"[Arafat] may well see the suicide attacks as one of the few ways
to retaliate against his tormentors, to dramatize the suffering of
his people, or as a means for him, vicariously, to be a martyr."

-- Carter in an apologia for the Pali homicide-bombings

And yet, with the blood of perhaps a million people dripping from his hands,
Carter stalked the earth in his sick quest to be given a Nobel Peace Prize.

If he had any moral center at all, he would return his recent peace prize.

Carter is the smiley face of evil.

R E F E R E N C E S:

Jimmy Carter: America basher
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20020515.shtml

Carter: Cuba Terror Claims False
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682807/posts

There He Goes Again
http://www.nationalreview.com/20may02/nordlinger052002.asp

You Didn’t Ask for It, You Got It: Carterpalooza!
http://www.nationalreview.com/impromptus/impromptus050302.asp

Carter & Castro
http://www.frontpagemag.com/columnists/ponte05-08-02.htm

Jimmy Carter’s Trail of Disaster
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml

'Idiotic' Carter Castro's Dupe
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/15/202903.shtml

Carter, Democrats Asked Soviets to Stop Reagan
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/10/16/214040


75 posted on 11/16/2002 9:08:34 AM PST by polemikos
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To: Jack of Clubs
Carter also expressed concern about the contest for control of Israel's governing Likud party...

Too bad he can't enlist the help of the KGB to work against Netanyahu, like he did in the 80's to try to hurt Reagan in the elections. /sarcasm

76 posted on 11/16/2002 9:10:35 AM PST by TheEngineer
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To: Grampa Dave
The thread that runs through the Carter/xlinton administrations is treasonous in its effect upon our nation...weakening our security, attempting to give the enemy the upper hand.

A young, liberal friend asked me a few months ago what it was that transformed me from liberal to conservative. My four syllable answer was "Jimmy Carter".

Thanks for the reminder re:Stansfield Turner and the outing of the CIA...I'd let that slip from memory.

Your CIA friend escaped death, but other agents did not, if I remember right.

I'm starting the day pissed off. Good, there's plenty reason to be angry.

Thank God above that Dubya and the GOP, however spineless the latter can sometimes be (i.e., Trent the Cheerleader), are in the captain's chair. It tempers my anger and gives me hope.

77 posted on 11/16/2002 9:14:18 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: mikenola
Yea, they'll like us SOO much better if we're juat a little nicer.
78 posted on 11/16/2002 9:19:27 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Wonder Warthog
Uh....It wasn't applied under Al Gore's initiative to convert former Soviet military industry to commercial applications.
That was at least a $10B fraud!
79 posted on 11/16/2002 9:21:10 AM PST by G Larry
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To: jwfiv
You are a very smart person to perceive Carter in his reality.

Yes some outed agents probably were killed, and we were told about.

The real damage to our country was that these were men who knew how to set up in country teams to spy on the bad guys who wanted to kill us. When they were outed and came home, they went into the CIA bureacracy or took early retirement which our friend did. So their skills and years of experience were lost. Their in country contacts were probably killed and probably their family members.
80 posted on 11/16/2002 9:24:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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