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Minnesota Sen.-elect Coleman won't take office until January
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| Friday, November 8, 2002 Posted: 10:47 PM EST
Posted on 11/09/2002 9:27:01 PM PST by luv2ndamend
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Still a toss-up!
To: luv2ndamend
In South Dakota, the election night vote count put Democrat Sen. Tim Johnson less than 600 votes ahead of his GOP challenger, Rep. John Thune, which could trigger a recount once results are certified. I think the Republicans need to start looking at the voter rolls and election records now, to see if they can find fraudulent votes. I don't think that just a recount will do it here.
To: Question_Assumptions
I agree!
To: Question_Assumptions
I think the Republicans need to start looking at the voter rolls and election records now, to see if they can find fraudulent votes If I recall isn't there also some kind of federal investion going on about the registration of voters??
Wonder if they will look further into it
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posted on
11/09/2002 9:33:26 PM PST
by
Mo1
To: Mo1
If Trent has his way, the SD "investigation" will be about as successful as Woody Jenkins' 1997 claim of fraud in New Orleans, surprise, surprise! Trent believes in the old song: "Don't Rock the Boat, Baby."
To: luv2ndamend
Barkley was appointed to the Senate by Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura
I wonder why Ventura couldn't have waited until after the election and then appointed the winner. That way, the new MN senator would have had a slight seniority jump over the other new senators. But that's Jesse Ventura, it's always about him, not his state.
To: Question_Assumptions
I'd rather see the election go to Johnson and see Democratic officials serving felony terms than see Thune win and nobody do time.
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posted on
11/09/2002 9:41:14 PM PST
by
jdege
To: luv2ndamend
I will always wonder if Jumpin' Jeffords understands how badly he hurt America. May his soul burn in hell.
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posted on
11/09/2002 9:41:25 PM PST
by
zip
To: Theodore R.
Lott can kiss my ......
Sorry .. I don't like nor trust him
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posted on
11/09/2002 9:41:51 PM PST
by
Mo1
To: Theodore R.
I wonder why Ventura couldn't have waited until after the election and then appointed the winner. That way, the new MN senator would have had a slight seniority jump over the other new senators. Coleman says in the article, "While I am eager to begin serving the people of Minnesota, it appears that an earlier swearing in will not give any added seniority for Minnesota,"
I would guess that he found that Senate rules wouldn't give him extra seniority. Under MN law he should be seated as soon as he is certified, but the main practical reason for doing so would be for seniority. If he isn't getting any anyway he's probably decided not to argue the point, or he's also found that there is a problem with being seated sooner in the Senate rules.
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posted on
11/09/2002 9:47:44 PM PST
by
mlo
To: luv2ndamend
I'm from Minnesota. Barkley is a jerk. He'll hang in the Seante as long as he can for no other reason than to screw up the seniority ranking. Ventura is perfectly OK with this too. Barkley is Ventura's boy and this is B's 15 minutes of national fame. Forget it. Coleman is going to see the office only when the law requires - not before.
To: jdege
I'd rather see Thune win AND "see Democratic officials serving felony terms". We don't need any Daschle Jr.'s in the Senate.
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posted on
11/09/2002 10:04:50 PM PST
by
skr
To: Theodore R.
My guess is Jesse thought the Dems would win, and since he was so miffed at them for the rally, he appointed an Independant to mess things up for them. Only problem was, Norm won. But yes, its always about Jesse!
To: Theodore R.
I wonder why Ventura couldn't have waited until after the election and then appointed the winner. That way, the new MN senator would have had a slight seniority jump over the other new senators. But that's Jesse Ventura, it's always about him, not his state. Oh, give Jesse a break! If Mondale had won, you'd now be praising Jesse for not appointing the winner.
To: Theodore R.
"I wonder why Ventura couldn't have waited until after the election and then appointed the winner."
In essence he cant. A senator can only serve 6 years. If Ventura appointed Coleman now he would have to resign before the end of the term six years from now.
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posted on
11/09/2002 10:48:45 PM PST
by
jbstrick
To: jbstrick
Unless he won re-election.
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posted on
11/09/2002 11:12:25 PM PST
by
RobbyS
To: jbstrick
Here is the deal:
Ventura appointed Barkley to spite the DemoncRATs for the Wellstone memorially and, to a lesser degree, both the RATs and the Republicans for having the debate without any other participants.
The appointment of Barkley has standing until the next election under Minnesota law which conflicts with federal law which allows the appointee to remain seated until the end of the session. So while Coleman's election now gives him precedent the federal law stands.
Barkley already said he would stay until the end of the term and any kind of fight would not only be fruitless it would irk Barkley and Ventura.
Coleman has asked Ventura to appoint him one or two days before the end of the year so that then Minnesota would have seniority over other new Senators elected in this lesson (as Coleman would be offically "seated" in December and new folks would be seated in January). I suspect Ventura & Barkley will OK this provided they're not mad about other stuff.
Barkley still holds a lot of cards here as to who he'll work with. So far it seems he's best aligned with the Republicans and I suspect one of the reasons Lott has been saying some of the things he has is to encourage Barkley to join with the Republicans lest Daschle continue to obstruct through the end of the session.
To: Mo1
There is an on-going and apparently vigorous investigation
into the SD fraud. Investigations take time, though, and
I will not be surprised if this one takes much longer than
the time Thune has before Johnson is seated. Without very
clear evidence before then, I doubt the investigation will
have any more effect than it has had already, that being
the discarding of several hundred (as I understand) invalid
ballot applications.
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posted on
11/09/2002 11:14:13 PM PST
by
AFPhys
To: Theodore R.
Could Ventura's appt. have been meant to blast the Demodogs for the Plane Crash Jamboree regardless of the outcome of the election?
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posted on
11/09/2002 11:16:09 PM PST
by
AFPhys
To: WorkingClassFilth
>>
I'm from Minnesota. Barkley is a jerk. He'll hang in the Seante as long as he can for no other reason than to screw up the seniority ranking. Ventura is perfectly OK with this too. Barkley is Ventura's boy and this is B's 15 minutes of national fame. <<
Hey, if Wellstone hadn't croaked, it would be HIS socialist butt in that seat making decisions until January (and that's even if he lost)
No matter how bad Barkley's flaws, surely he can't be as bad as Wellstone. If you put with 8 years of Wellstone, you can put up with this guy for 2 monthes.
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posted on
11/09/2002 11:19:37 PM PST
by
BillyBoy
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