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Coleman hopes to boost his seniority in the U.S. Senate
The Startribune ^ | November 8, 2002 | Bob von Sternberg

Posted on 11/07/2002 10:50:06 PM PST by CoolCD

Hoping to gain seniority, U.S. Sen.-elect Norm Coleman said Thursday that he will ask interim Sen. Dean Barkley to step down early, which would allow Coleman to leapfrog two other Republican freshmen elected Tuesday.



"There are benefits for Minnesota if I'm sworn in before any others," Coleman said. "Even a day before. I'm going to talk to Dean about the transition. We'll work it out."


Although Barkley had said Wednesday that he planned to serve the entire two-month period between now and the start of the next Congress, he seemed amenable Thursday to giving Coleman a brief seniority bump.

"If it gives an advantage to the state and if it gives him a leg up, certainly I'll consider it," Barkley said in Washington, D.C., where he was meeting with Senate leaders. "I plan on talking to Norm."

But, he said, the decision remains with Gov. Jesse Ventura, who put him in the Senate to finish the term of the late Paul Wellstone. 'It's up to the governor," Barkley said. "I'd have to discuss it with him."

Ventura spokesman John Wodele called it "a reasonable request. If Senator Barkley is receptive to it, I don't see any reason not to bring it to the governor. He'd consider it." Ventura hasn't expressed an opinion about the subject, Wodele said.

The founder of Minnesota's Independence Party, Barkley is Ventura's political mentor. Angered that the Independence and Green candidates were excluded from Monday's lone debate between Coleman and Democrat Walter Mondale, Ventura appointed Barkley as that debate was beginning.

Both Barkley and Coleman, men who have long yearned to become senators, stressed that they are friends and that the transition will be amiable. "He called me at 3 a.m. [Wednesday] to congratulate me, but I had to tell him I could still lose," Coleman said.

Job preferences

Seniority is important because it is a key to determining Senate committee assignments. Under the rules of the Senate's Republican conference, previous service in the Senate, House of Representatives or in a governor's office gives a new senator additional seniority. Of the eight Republican freshmen who will take office in January, five have such an advantage.

Coleman said he has told soon-to-be Majority Leader Trent Lott that he would prefer to be assigned to committees responsible for agriculture, jobs and health care. "There's not a lot of leeway because of seniority," he said.

He added: "I'm just going to be happy to be there. I'm the luckiest man on the face of the Earth."

Still exhausted after his grueling campaign, Coleman said he was not ready to make any announcements about his Senate staff and knew only that he had to be in Washington by next Wednesday for an organizational meeting of the new Senate.

He said he expects to work smoothly with Democratic Sen. Mark Dayton and Democratic members of the state's House delegation. "It's one benefit of having been a Democrat," he said. "I look forward with working with members on both sides of the aisle."

Coleman said the three biggest contributors to his victory over Mondale were an ad recorded by his daughter Sarah, President Bush's appearance Sunday and his own hard work.

Describing his mood, he said it was a combination of "the rush, the joy, of winning, sadness about what we've gone through and the fatigue of getting no sleep for three days."

He made his comments during an impromptu news conference during a lunchtime handshaking session with scores of new constituents on Nicollet Mall in Minneapolis.

At one point, he carried a copy of the New York Times, which had put him on the front page Thursday, a testimony to his sudden emergence as a national political celebrity. Another: All of the Sunday morning political talk shows want to book him for this week's shows.

-- Staff Writer Kevin Diaz contributed to this report.

-- Bob von Sternberg is at vonste@startribune.com.


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1 posted on 11/07/2002 10:50:06 PM PST by CoolCD
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To: CoolCD
Wendell Anderson did exactly the same thing.
2 posted on 11/07/2002 11:47:12 PM PST by jdege
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To: CoolCD
Even if Barker and Ventura were down right liberals left wing idiots, they have to realize that you want your state senator to have a chairmanship if possible, that is very important, besides, Barker was only appointed because Ventura thought mondale was going to win, and he wanted to screw the dems over the wellstone debackle.
3 posted on 11/07/2002 11:49:11 PM PST by Sonny M
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To: Sonny M
I thought it was against Senate rules for any member to
serve more than 6 years at a time. If Coleman is sworn in
even a day early, that would make his 6-year term longer
than is allowed by federal law. I thought that was the whole
rationale for appointing an interim replacement for
Wellstone in the first place. Otherwise, Coleman could
just take over Wellstone's seat right now.

4 posted on 11/08/2002 1:16:27 AM PST by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell
Interesting point. Please ping me if you see any future legal discussion on this.
5 posted on 11/08/2002 2:19:25 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell
I thought it was against Senate rules for any member to serve more than 6 years at a time. If Coleman is sworn in even a day early, that would make his 6-year term longer than is allowed by federal law. I thought that was the whole rationale for appointing an interim replacement for Wellstone in the first place. Otherwise, Coleman could just take over Wellstone's seat right now.

Barkley would be resigning leaving the seat open (even for just 1 day) and Ventura appoints Coleman for the remaing term (even if just 1 day). Then Coleman begins his elected term at the same time as the other freshmen Senators. Perfectly legitimate way to get a jump start.

6 posted on 11/08/2002 2:26:00 AM PST by JameRetief
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To: patriciaruth
Ping, see post above on why it is legit for Coleman to be sworn in early.
7 posted on 11/08/2002 2:26:38 AM PST by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
Thanks for the info. Now I think I understand. But I really
wonder why Coleman isn't just appointed as soon as the
results are certified, then sworn in for the actual term
in January. This Barkley guy didn't get a single vote
from the people of Minnesota, but Coleman upset a former
Vice President of the entire United States of America.

8 posted on 11/08/2002 3:58:52 AM PST by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell
Since Ventura filled the seat with Barkley, Barkley has the full rights of being a Senator which means he can't be removed before the end of the term unless the Senate votes to remove him. Unless he resigns (or dies) there is no way to get Coleman sworn in before his elected term starts. Since Barkley has stated a willingness to step down early, I think he probably will.
9 posted on 11/08/2002 4:30:52 AM PST by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
Thanks again for even more info. I agree about Barkley.
I saw him on Hardball (the night he was appointed, I
believe) and he sounded very reasonable and unselfish. In
fact, he all but guaranteed Chris Matthews that he would
try to help Trent Lott get judicial nominees through. Of
course, that was before Republicans knew they'd control
the Senate anyway.

I'm also very high on Coleman, who impressed me in the
debate when he stood up to that finger-wagging Mondale on
the issue of judicial nominees, as well as abortion.

10 posted on 11/08/2002 5:13:00 AM PST by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: CoolCD
The Senate itself may have something to say about this. But if they're amenable to it, there is one easy way for Norm to pull this off. Cut a deal with Barkley to support including the Independence Party candidate in the next senatorial and gubernatorial debates.

You wouldn't believe how important this is to the Independence party. Barring major shifts in politics, it also serves the Republican Party, because the Independence Party is pulling significantly more votes from the DFL than the Republicans.

11 posted on 11/08/2002 8:26:09 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: Sonny M
Barker was only appointed because Ventura thought mondale was going to win, and he wanted to screw the dems over the wellstone debackle.

That's not true. Barkley was appointed because both parties shut the Independence candidate (Jim Moore - who was polling below 5 percent) out of the final debate between Mondale and Coleman.

Jesse has always believed it was his participation in the debates that won him his own victory. He and his party make debate inclusion one of their top priorities. That's why he timed his naming of Barkley to take place during the debate, after previously saying he would not name the interim Senator until after the polls closed on election day.

12 posted on 11/08/2002 8:31:48 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: JameRetief
Barkley would be resigning leaving the seat open (even for just 1 day) and Ventura appoints Coleman for the remaing term (even if just 1 day). Then Coleman begins his elected term at the same time as the other freshmen Senators. Perfectly legitimate way to get a jump start.

Couldn't any state where the Governor has the power to appoint a vacant Senate seat do this? Helms could do it to let Dole have a jump on seniority, no?
13 posted on 11/08/2002 8:36:09 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell
I thought it was against Senate rules for any member to serve more than 6 years at a time.

Senators serve more than six years every time one gets re-elected.

MN law says Coleman takes the seat as soon as he is certified, not in two months.

It is MN law that gives Ventura the power to appoint anyone, but in this particular case that law removes the power from the Governor and makes the automatic appointment to the winner of a general election.

14 posted on 11/08/2002 8:40:55 AM PST by mlo
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To: BikerNYC
Yep, any lame duck senator could resign early and let his/her successor be appointed for the remainder of the term.
15 posted on 11/08/2002 8:42:05 AM PST by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
This could start a trend.
16 posted on 11/08/2002 8:42:37 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell
"If Coleman is sworn in even a day early, that would make his 6-year term longer than is allowed by federal law."

Coleman would be initially serving as an appointee, just like Barkley. He would be completing Wellstone's unexpired term, before starting his own.

I.e., no problem.

17 posted on 11/08/2002 8:50:33 AM PST by okie01
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To: mlo
Senators serve more than six years every time one gets re-elected.

But they do not serve more than six years per term.

MN law says Coleman takes the seat as soon as he is certified, not in two months.

Federal statutes take precedent and limits the term to 6 years. By law his elected term won't start until the same day as the other freshmen. But as stated above, that would not prevent him from being appointed to fill an empty seat since it is a seperate term.

18 posted on 11/08/2002 9:02:49 AM PST by JameRetief
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To: BikerNYC
It would be a rare event. It requires both a retiring Senator willing to retire early, and a Governor willing to appoint the freshman to the seat early. If either the incumbent Senator or Governor are not of the same party as the freshman, they would likely not go along with the plan.
19 posted on 11/08/2002 9:09:48 AM PST by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
But they do not serve more than six years per term.

A term is by definition 6 years. It isn't possible for anyone to serve more per term. That is not the issue.

The new six year term starts in January. There is a current six year term still to be completed. Who will complete that term? MN law dictates that the winner of a general election for the seat will complete the remainder of the existing term, as well as the term for which the election was held.

It would be the same as if a governor waited to see who won before appointing the winner to the remaining term, but in this case MN law doesn't give the governor the option, it is automatic.

20 posted on 11/08/2002 9:18:34 AM PST by mlo
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