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The Victim Flip Has already started, Stay Tuned for more flipping.....
Dow Jones News Wire | 10/24/2002 | Various

Posted on 10/24/2002 12:17:02 PM PDT by Sonar5

Well, the vitim flip has started. Watch how they turn this into these two perps being victims.

NBC already is referring to Malvo as a Teenager, and here is two clips.

"NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--One of the men being held in connection with the Washington, D.C.-area sniper attacks received "a less than honorable discharge" from the U.S. Army, Fox News reported Thursday."

Typical scumbag loser that slipped past the psych tests, IMHO.

Also: Here is the flip: SEATTLE (AP)- "Sheron Norman, a former sister-in-law, said Muhammad and Malvo came to Baton Rouge, La., in July for a three-day visit. It was the first time family members had seen Malvo, she said, and Muhammad introduced him as his son. Norman, whose sister Carol Williams is Mohammad's first wife, said Malvo was allowed to eat only crackers and honey and nutritional supplements. "You could tell he was scared," Norman said in an interview in Scotlandville, La. "He was very, very quiet. You could tell he didn't like the way he was living."

Yeah, and this perp never had a chance to get away...riggghhtttt, I see now...victim.... forced to drive the car, ok.... Now I get it.... DO YOU?

And number two: FREDERICK, Md. (AP)- "A 41-year-old Army veteran, John Allen Muhammad, previously reported to be 42, and a teenager, John Lee Malvo, described as his stepson, were arrested at a roadside rest stop Thursday for questioning in the three-week wave of deadly sniper attacks that have terrorized the Washington, D.C., area."

Ahh, a teenager.....

So, there is the new mantra.

BTW - Maryland won't execute under the age of 18, but Virgina and Alabama will. I say lock them in a six by six cell, watching who's the boss reruns for the rest of their lives...

Regards, Sonar5


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dc; illinois; islam; israel; maryland; muslim; terrorist; virginia
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1 posted on 10/24/2002 12:17:03 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Sonar5
The post is good, but you really piled on the "topics". This isn't Arizona related, so what's it doing in the topics list? You're abusing the state sidebars.
2 posted on 10/24/2002 12:21:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Sonar5
The media spin is just beginning. Soon you won't hear the words "muslim" or "black", all you will hear will be "gun control", "poor victim", "racist America", "religion of peace", "military background", etc. If the shooter HAD fit the FBI profile/composite, the media would be in a frenzy blathering on about "white separatist", "gun nut", "anti-government", "right-winger", etc.
3 posted on 10/24/2002 12:23:52 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: Sonar5
Ah ha. I posted this earlier today on another thread:

Someone just posted about FoxNews now not showing photos of the "youth" - which post was pulled and not sure why. It got me thinking that the advocates will probably try to have this [church-going] youth tried as a juvenile so he will only spend one year in a juvenile detention facility. It would be cruel and un-American to charge him as an adult when all he was trying to do throughout this crime spree was get to school or church so he could continue with his science studies or choir singing.

4 posted on 10/24/2002 12:24:12 PM PDT by hankbrown
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To: Sonar5
Well, the vitim flip has started. Watch how they turn this into these two perps being victims.

Well then, we'll just have to keep reminding them that they are radical Islamist, American-hating cold blooded murderers, won't we.

5 posted on 10/24/2002 12:24:13 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Cyber Liberty
With all apologies to those in other states that feel offended by my post. I am sorry.

This is a serious issue that will affect all states IMHO, because the victim flip is a popular demorat issue that will apply to the elections in November.

Just watch what happens on the news shows throughout this week and on the Sunday talk shows.

So again, I apologize if you felt offended.

Regards,
Sonar5



6 posted on 10/24/2002 12:27:19 PM PDT by Sonar5
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UPDATE:

Maryland wins the jurisdiction battle:
and No Death Penalty under 18 there, you know...

EXCERPT:
ROCKVILLE, Md. (AP)--Prosecutors from Montgomery County, Md., and the U.S. Attorney's Office will meet Friday morning to discuss filing criminal charges against the two men taken into custody Thursday in connection with the sniper shootings.
Montgomery County State's Attorney Doug Gansler issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying he will meet at 10 a.m. Friday (1400 GMT) with Thomas DiBiagio, the U.S. attorney for the District of Maryland.
After the meeting, Gansler and DiBiagio will make a statement at noon.

(END) DOW JONES NEWS 10-24-02
03:18 PM- - 03 18 PM EDT 10-24-02
7 posted on 10/24/2002 12:28:41 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Sonar5
NBC already is referring to Malvo as a Teenager

I agree about media spin - but doesn't a person who is 17 years of age qualify as a teenager? Why is this breaking news? Why all the keywords? Why not document, over an acceptable period of time, all the media spin and then sit down and write a detailed, well reference rebuttal?

8 posted on 10/24/2002 12:31:34 PM PDT by VaMarVet
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To: Sonar5
It's OK. I was just being a crank.

I repeat: The post is great. I liked it. I just expended 24 out of 28 words whining at you for no good reason.

;^)

9 posted on 10/24/2002 12:32:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Sonar5
watching who's the boss reruns for the rest of their lives...

'Charles in Charge'. Much nastier...
10 posted on 10/24/2002 12:33:14 PM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: freeperfromnj
Well then, we'll just have to keep reminding them that they are radical Islamist

This morning on WABC radio (I previously thought it was WOR) they were refering to John Muhamad only as John Williams. They would not and did not once call him John Muhamad and they said the name Williams about three times. Well let me reming everyone so that noone forgets......

Muhamad
Mohamad
Muhhamd
Mohhamd
Usama
Osama
Muslim
Moslim

No matter how you spell make sure you mention it.

This is Islamic terrorism no matter what the news says. They want us to forget and we will never forget. They want us to let our guards down and this will never ever happen.

11 posted on 10/24/2002 12:33:49 PM PDT by Mixer
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To: Sonar5
I kind of hope the libs try to victimize the perps. It will turn off a few dems and will ignite Republicans. Turnout is everything.
12 posted on 10/24/2002 12:35:58 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Mixer
Try This Link. Search terms are sniper, Muhammad, and Islam.
13 posted on 10/24/2002 12:38:51 PM PDT by VaMarVet
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To: Dave Dilegge
Hi Dave,

It's the subtleties (sp) that you have to read into. Teenager yes, but Virgina and Alabama execute under age 18, Maryland does not.

Maryland is where they will be prosecuted, and I belive that anyone that can distinguish between right and wrong, and a 17 year old can, needs to be held acocuntable for their actions. Period.



Thanks for the reply, though.
14 posted on 10/24/2002 12:40:56 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Sonar5
Sniper Suspects


15 posted on 10/24/2002 12:42:17 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: Sonar5
I get you and I agree with your point - just get disturbed sometimes with knee-jerk reactions here as they often get copied, posted, and warped on TOS sites. Also, I apoligize - you did not post this under breaking news - my bad.
16 posted on 10/24/2002 12:43:31 PM PDT by VaMarVet
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To: js1138
I agree. Joe Lunchbucket didn't buy the spin on Jihad Johnny Walker Lindh and he won't buy the spin on these murdering scum either.
17 posted on 10/24/2002 12:43:50 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: Sonar5
Please ad CNNs Talk Back Live,,,,,,what er name Neville has an attorney on here focusing on 17yr old, 17,17,17.................

Then a defense attorney comes on and starts looking after Malvo's victim rights. He is a child you know /sarcasm off/

"He could be under influence of a dominant adult."
18 posted on 10/24/2002 12:44:37 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Mixer
Part of their cover is different variations in the spelling of their names.
19 posted on 10/24/2002 12:44:41 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Sonar5
At least the radio station (WTOP) I'm listening to is referring to them by their EVIL three/full names.
20 posted on 10/24/2002 12:45:47 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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