'We do want to talk' (More than one Tarot card has been found)

Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 10/21/02 | KIRAN KRISHNAMURTHY AND REX BOWMAN

[areafiftyone]

Police say they have a note and a phone number from whoever shot a man leaving an Ashland restaurant Saturday night.

"To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa last night: You gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk with you. Call us at the number you provided," Montgomery County, Md., Chief Charles A. Moose said during an evening news conference.

[areafiftyone]

Looks like this is more and more turning out to be a psycho serial/sniper and not ME terrorists.

[theDentist]

Since no one really knows, it could be a terrorist who is not as fully resolved to his actions as his cohorts. Or just something to mislead Police into thinking it's only one, or a ploy used in case he's caught so he can claim mental deficiency.

[areafiftyone]

I don't think so. If you look at alot of serial killers they love to leave notes taunting police or the newspapers. This does not sound like terrorists. This person lives in virginia and has some agenda or is just psychotic and needs to kill.

[JameRetief]

It could still be ME terrorist related. We won't know until after a phone call to police to determine what the shooter actually wants to say.

If it is ME related, the phone call could be to relay that if the US attacks Iraq that shootings like this will start all over the US. Or it could be any other number of things that a terrorist would want to say to the US.

Or it could be just another nutcase. Either way, right now we just don't know.

[humblegunner]

"You gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk with you. Call us at the number you provided,"

Sooo.. how does that work, exactly?
How about they call him at the number he provided???

[wai-ming]

Police say they have a note and a phone number from whoever shot a man leaving an Ashland restaurant Saturday night.

"To the person who left us a message at the Ponderosa last night: You gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk with you. Call us at the number you provided,"

If the sniper gave them a telephone number, why don't they just call him/her?

[areafiftyone]

It is a bit confusing. If he left a number for them to call then I am sure they did. But Moose Man's message is a bit confusing. Looks like they are waiting for the sniper to call them. I think he is playing with them. I don't think they will get a call. He is real psychotic. Don't be surprised if he starts to send notes to the media (although I think this guy does NOT like the media like some other serial snipers who tend to use the media to get their message out).

[Dialup Llama]

>>"You gave us a telephone number. We do want to talk with you. Call us at the number you provided,"

>Sooo.. how does that work, exactly?

>How about they call him at the number he provided???

He would be calling on the world's most bugged phone number. If someone ever calls that number, it is not the sniper who will be answering it.

[areafiftyone]

If the sniper gave them a telephone number, why don't they just call him/her?

I think the number might be a phone booth or something like that. A public number so the police cannot trace him. I think he is just teasing. But the idea that he has left notes or tarot cards to the police lets you know that this person is psychotic and is in charge right now. He is going to play games until he gets caught.

[areafiftyone]

Fox News just said the gov. talked to the guys at Gitmo and nothing about ME snipers in the U.S. Looks like that guy in Belgium was doing his usual lying when he said there were plans for ME snipers in the U.S.

[JameRetief]

Come on people, the number that was left was an unrelated third party number (probably a pay phone) that the shooter would call to talk to the police. The phone company has "confiscated" the number and it now redirects to a dedicated police line. The shooter did this so that now the police know for certain that when he calls them on that line that it is indeed the shooter and not another nutcase claiming credit.

[johnny7]

Oh sure. The shooter puts his rifle into his backpack and steps over the victim to have a cheap meal at Ponderosa.

Makes perfect sense... maybe to chief Moose.

This is the prank of some sicko who was there after the cops arrived.

Possibly an employee who was cleaning up at 1:00 AM and doesn't like cops.

The “people” that are doing this are not mentally deranged. They are just doing their business... and getting away with it.

[doosee]

Police were also investigating the possibility the shooter may have used a bicycle and toted his weapon in a backpack to and from the scene, a law-enforcement official at the scene said on condition of anonymity.


My friend's daughter and another girl were jogging about 3 miles away from where the woman was shot at Home Depot in Fairfax. A bicycle rider with a rifle stock sticking out of his backpack passed them by. They stopped cold and stared at him. They called police and gave a full description. Shortly after the woman was shot. This could well be the guy and that means the police can create a full description.

[JameRetief]

Just because the detainees in Gitmo know nothing about sniper shootings doesn't mean they aren't ME related. This could be a new tact they have decided on within the US and something the Gitmo residents would know nothing about.

Until we have some hard evidence one way or the other, dismissing ME theories would be an unsound way to proceed.

[areafiftyone]

I agree about the pay phone. I think this is all a tease to the police. This guy will not be caught that way. He has to make a mistake and leave some REAL evidence or someone knows who he is and turns him in.

[copycat]

While it's easier not to be seen at night, if the killer had that as a top priority, he would attack in rural areas, said Burke. "I'm just hoping it's not a copycat," he said.

Or a different Al Queda cell...

[JameRetief]

Last I heard on FNC was that the message was left outside at the same place where the shooter fired from. I doubt someone trying to pull a prank would have known exactly where the shot was fired.

[Dialup Llama]

>"It sounded like a shotgun right up in your ear," said Wilks,

He must have been very close. I've heard enough rifle shots, and a rifle fired at typical 'range' distances is not very loud at all. It is more like a pop. Any comments?

[copycat]

The Portland Or Al Queda cell WAS practising marksmanship in a stone quarry when discovered. I have noticed a concerted effort to downplay the possibility that this sniper is ME ever since the time they "discredited" the AK-74 info. That effort probably extends to this website...

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Did this person have an "olive complexion"?