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Hey, you came in with the right attitude. The conflicts on FR over Debka go back some ways and have been quite heated at times. I caught Debka lying several times in an article about a year ago - it was about Special Forces having to change priorities around Tora Bora because of the immement winter weather - the article mentioned that winter storms were currently raging in Afghanistan - but when I went to the Weather Channel, the Afghani weather was clear, and no significant winter weather was in the forecast. Debka also claimed that journalists were being kicked out of Tora Bora, or had to wear chemical protective gear - as Geraldo was reporting from Tora Bora in his usual duds. So you can see why Debka doesn't have much credibility here.