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North Korea admits to having nukes, ties to Iraq/Syria ballistic missle sales
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Posted on 10/16/2002 8:54:29 PM PDT by livis_dad

U.S.: North Korea Says Has Nukes Wed Oct 16, 9:44 PM ET By GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - In a startling revelation, North Korea (news - web sites) has told the United States it has a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of an 1994 agreement with the United States, the White House said Wednesday night.

Spokesman Sean McCormack said North Korea was in "material breach" of the agreement under which it promised not to develop nuclear weapons.

The commitment had raised hopes for a nuclear-free Korean peninsula, but that hope is dashed for the time being, and relations with the United States are back to square one.

The two countries had just resumed high-level security talks less than two weeks ago for the first time in two years. It was during those discussions that North Korea informed the United States of its nuclear activities.

McCormack said the United States is consulting with it allies, South Korea (news - web sites) and Japan, and with members of Congress on next steps.

"We seek a peaceful resolution of this situation," McCormack said. "Everyone in the region has a stake in this issue and no peaceful nation wants to see a nuclear-armed North Korea."

"The United States and our allies call on North Korea to comply with its commitments under the nonproliferation treaty and to eliminate its nuclear weapons program in a verifiable manner."

U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said North Korea told U.S. officials that it is no longer bound by the anti-nuclear agreement.

The dramatic disclosure complicates President Bush (news - web sites)'s campaign to disarm Iraq under threat of military force, coming almost nine months after Bush said North Korea was part of an "axis of evil" along with Iran and Iraq.

It seems unlikely, however, that North Korea will become a target country for the United States much as Iraq is nowadays. With war plans for Iraq already on the drawing board and a broader war on terrorism still under way, threats against North Korea could leave the United States overextended.

Until now, the United States' main concern with North Korea has been its sale of ballistic missiles to Syria, Iran and other countries. Now North Korea's nuclear program is added to the mix.

The United States has been suspicious about North Korea's nuclear intentions for some time despite the agreement.

A CIA (news - web sites) report in January said that during the second half of last year, North Korea "continued its attempts procure technology worldwide that could have applications in its nuclear program.

"We assess that North Korea has produced enough plutonium for at least one, and possibly two, nuclear weapons."

South Korean Deputy Foreign Minister Lee Tae-sik said South Korea has consistently pursued the de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula in line with international agreements.

"We urge North Korea to abide by its obligations," he said. There was no immediate response from the Japanese government. Japan and South Korea are treaty allies of the United States.

Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly visited North Korea on Oct. 3-5 and demanded that the communist state address global concerns about its nuclear and other weapons programs.

In response, the Pyongyang government accused Bush's special envoy of making "threatening remarks." The United States refused all comment on the discussions.

Under the 1994 agreement, North Korea promised to give up its nuclear weapons program and to allow inspections to verify that it did not have the material needed to construct such weapons.

But it has yet to allow the inspections, drawing criticism from the Bush administration.

The agreement also called for the construction of two light water nuclear reactors to replace the plutonium-producing reactors Pyongyang had been using. The reactors were being financed mostly by South Korea and Japan. Construction of the reactors began just two months ago.

An administration source said Kelly also raised with North Korea evidence that Pyongyang may have a uranimum-enrichment program. The program, which the United States believes would only be used to develop a nuclear bomb, began under the Clinton administration, according to the official.

Surprisingly, North Korea confirmed the allegation.

The Bush administration has not decided how to respond. "We're going to keep talking," an official said.

After months of tension with South Korea, the North resumed high-level talks in August that restarted stalled reconciliation efforts on the Korean peninsula — divided by the most heavily armed border in the world.


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U.S.: North Korea Says Has Nukes Wed Oct 16, 9:44 PM ET By GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - In a startling revelation, North Korea (news - web sites) has told the United States it has a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of an 1994 agreement with the United States, the White House said Wednesday night.

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Spokesman Sean McCormack said North Korea was in "material breach" of the agreement under which it promised not to develop nuclear weapons.

The commitment had raised hopes for a nuclear-free Korean peninsula, but that hope is dashed for the time being, and relations with the United States are back to square one.

The two countries had just resumed high-level security talks less than two weeks ago for the first time in two years. It was during those discussions that North Korea informed the United States of its nuclear activities.

McCormack said the United States is consulting with it allies, South Korea (news - web sites) and Japan, and with members of Congress on next steps.

"We seek a peaceful resolution of this situation," McCormack said. "Everyone in the region has a stake in this issue and no peaceful nation wants to see a nuclear-armed North Korea."

"The United States and our allies call on North Korea to comply with its commitments under the nonproliferation treaty and to eliminate its nuclear weapons program in a verifiable manner."

U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said North Korea told U.S. officials that it is no longer bound by the anti-nuclear agreement.

The dramatic disclosure complicates President Bush (news - web sites)'s campaign to disarm Iraq under threat of military force, coming almost nine months after Bush said North Korea was part of an "axis of evil" along with Iran and Iraq.

It seems unlikely, however, that North Korea will become a target country for the United States much as Iraq is nowadays. With war plans for Iraq already on the drawing board and a broader war on terrorism still under way, threats against North Korea could leave the United States overextended.

Until now, the United States' main concern with North Korea has been its sale of ballistic missiles to Syria, Iran and other countries. Now North Korea's nuclear program is added to the mix.

The United States has been suspicious about North Korea's nuclear intentions for some time despite the agreement.

A CIA (news - web sites) report in January said that during the second half of last year, North Korea "continued its attempts procure technology worldwide that could have applications in its nuclear program.

"We assess that North Korea has produced enough plutonium for at least one, and possibly two, nuclear weapons."

South Korean Deputy Foreign Minister Lee Tae-sik said South Korea has consistently pursued the de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula in line with international agreements.

"We urge North Korea to abide by its obligations," he said. There was no immediate response from the Japanese government. Japan and South Korea are treaty allies of the United States.

Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly visited North Korea on Oct. 3-5 and demanded that the communist state address global concerns about its nuclear and other weapons programs.

In response, the Pyongyang government accused Bush's special envoy of making "threatening remarks." The United States refused all comment on the discussions.

Under the 1994 agreement, North Korea promised to give up its nuclear weapons program and to allow inspections to verify that it did not have the material needed to construct such weapons.

But it has yet to allow the inspections, drawing criticism from the Bush administration.

The agreement also called for the construction of two light water nuclear reactors to replace the plutonium-producing reactors Pyongyang had been using. The reactors were being financed mostly by South Korea and Japan. Construction of the reactors began just two months ago.

An administration source said Kelly also raised with North Korea evidence that Pyongyang may have a uranimum-enrichment program. The program, which the United States believes would only be used to develop a nuclear bomb, began under the Clinton administration, according to the official.

Surprisingly, North Korea confirmed the allegation.

The Bush administration has not decided how to respond. "We're going to keep talking," an official said.

After months of tension with South Korea, the North resumed high-level talks in August that restarted stalled reconciliation efforts on the Korean peninsula — divided by the most heavily armed border in the world.

1 posted on 10/16/2002 8:54:29 PM PDT by livis_dad
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To: livis_dad
Can anyone guess who was resposible for allowing & supporting this? Why no other than the Klintoon gang. And what was the "actions have consequences" that this current president talked about? NONE, NADA! Thank you GW. Thanks for letting these rouges roam the world, sit in the Senate & make a mockery out of the rule of law & decency & TREASON. To bad GW, you didn't learn that the ENEMY IS WITHIN.
2 posted on 10/16/2002 9:07:59 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Digger
Let's not forget the lemmings with a (R) behind their names in Congress that did nothing to reverse this or speak out when Bubba was getting BJs in the Oval Office. Understand what is meant by the "Two-Party Cartel".
3 posted on 10/16/2002 9:11:35 PM PDT by Digger
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To: livis_dad
One way to look at this might be that North Korea wants to get off the Axis list, and is making a pre-emptive disclosure, to pave they way for negotiations.

They can see what is or is about to happen to "rogue" state Iraq. Self preservation may be the motivator.

Now one can see that the "Axis of terror" had a good foundation--we must have known quite a bit about this revelation.

What is China's role? Probably not a small one.

4 posted on 10/17/2002 12:06:57 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: ppaul; ex-snook; kidd; Snuffington; Inspector Harry Callahan; JohnHuang2; GeronL; sauropod; ...
The Bush administration has not decided how to respond. "We're going to keep talking," an official said.

North Korea, one of the pillars of Bush's "Axis of Evil," admits to having nukes, and the administration doesn't know what to do. Iraq, on the other hand, a nation without nuclear capabilities, must be taken out post-haste because it poses an imminent threat. How stupid do they think we are? I think we can begin to sum up the Bush Iraqi policy in one word: oil.

5 posted on 10/17/2002 6:36:04 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: Digger
"Understand what is meant by the 'Two-Party Cartel'."

There are two parties?

6 posted on 10/17/2002 6:42:20 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: livis_dad
North Korea told U.S. officials that it is no longer bound by the anti-nuclear agreement.

Gee, I wonder where they learned that from?

7 posted on 10/17/2002 6:44:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: sheltonmac
North Korea, one of the pillars of Bush's "Axis of Evil," admits to having nukes, and the administration doesn't know what to do. Iraq, on the other hand, a nation without nuclear capabilities, must be taken out post-haste because it poses an imminent threat. How stupid do they think we are?

Let's not forget our good friends the Communist Chinese, who have threatened to nuke Los Angeles.

This Iraq adventure doesn't seem to pass the smell test, if it's threats we're after.

8 posted on 10/17/2002 6:59:40 AM PDT by jimt
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To: truth_seeker
Just posted the same idea on another thread. They want to get out of the bullseye. There was a thread some weeks ago that said quiet was progress being made behind the scenes there. Why else would they volunteer this information if not to pre-empt Bush when their turn comes?

I say the Bushies knew this "surprise" announcement was coming and it is all part of a larger plan. The media is reading this all wrong as usual.

9 posted on 10/17/2002 7:27:50 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: Digger
Thank you Bill Clinton.
10 posted on 10/17/2002 7:45:58 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: sheltonmac
I have seen and heard this "oil" nonsense many times now (exclusively from Bush-loathing liberals, though you may not be one of them).

Liberals have oil on the brain when it comes to W. And their logic on this one is about as sound as their logic on everything else. In this case, it goes like this:

W says we need to take down Hussein because of the threat he poses with his nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs, not to mention because Hussein has violated virtually every agreement he made with the U.S. AND the U.N. following his loss in the Gulf War (which HE started with his hostile invasion of neighboring Kuwait).

North Korea says it has a nuclear weapons program, though in 1994 they agreed NOT to pursue one - we just found this out.

This MUST mean that N. Korea poses a greater threat than Iraq (first point of faulty logic)

Since W wants to go after Iraq (which he's been talking about for about 6 months now), and not N. Korea (whom we JUST YESTERDAY learned also has nukes and therefore MAY be as great a threat as Iraq), it MUST be because of oil (second point of faulty logic), not because of the threat posed by Hussein's WOMD programs, and the potential for him to transfer such weapons to terrorists, who unlike actual states, are far more likely to use them.

Simply put, the conclusion does not follow logically from the premises. The suggestion that the Iraq war is about oil has no logical basis, and is not supported by your statements (as is the case with most liberal arguments).

11 posted on 10/17/2002 7:48:32 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: white trash redneck
Thank you Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Carter interceded at a key juncture of negotiation to solidify the appeasing deal.

The US has to act stongly here.

We must:

1)Immediately cut off all humanitarian aid to the NKs. The bleeding heart feed the people argument doesnt work when they are building nuclear warheads and has decent ability the the ballistic missille area.

2)Add SK and Japan to the list of countries to hit up hard for war on terror. "The Art of War" back at you: Dont play defensive, take advantage of the PR coup and reel in SK and Japan.

3) Hit harder on the Iran-China-North Korea WMD and ballistic missille technology alignment. Time to get all the intel out to the American people and international community.

Bush has to react strongly here. It needs to be loud and hard.
12 posted on 10/17/2002 7:58:00 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: sheltonmac
The DPRK did not voluntarily confess that it has a nuclear weapons program. The US confronted them with the hard evidence and they admitted to it. I am pretty sure the purpose of our visit there was to lay down a marker concerning any notion on the part of the DPRK to provide these weapons to Saddam or AQ. We probably gave them an ultimatum that if these weapons were to be used by surrogates, we would respond against the DPRK even if the weapons could not be connected conclusively to them.

When confronting the "Axis of Evil," we have to take into account what each country poses as a threat and what options we have available to counteract it, i.e., a policy of differentiation. We can act militarily against Saddam because we have the power to do so. The DPRK poses a much different kind of threat. In fact, presuming they have a nuclear capability, the DPRK can threaten and blackmail its neighbors, e.g., Japan and South Korea (where we also have 37,000 troops). Containment and diplomacy may be the only way we can deal with the current situation--at least for now.

With the Middle East holding 67 percent of the world's oil reserves and an even higher percentage of exportable oil, the world's --not just the US's--economy depends on keeping the oil flowing. There is no doubt that stratigic national interests are involved and we must defend them.

Bush has revealed the sham agreement we have with the DPRK and the failed Clinton approach that has allowed this festering sore to get worse. We have to deal with reality and recognize that the word of tyrants is not worth the paper it is printed on.

13 posted on 10/17/2002 8:10:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: livis_dad
WASHINGTON (AP) - In a startling revelation, North Korea (news - web sites) has told the United States it has a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of an 1994 agreement with the United States, the White House said Wednesday night.

Another Clinton foreign policy failure. I'm shocked!

14 posted on 10/17/2002 8:11:55 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: Sicon
I agree with most of your comments, however, I don't think we just discovered that the DPRK has a nuclear weapons program and is violating the agreement it has with us. I will bet that the intelligence community already knew this during the Clinton administration.

Clinton saw foreign policy as an extension of domestic politics. I am sure he kept this information quiet so it would not undermine the public perception that he was the great peacemaker. Albright was cavorting with the DPRK at mass rallies creating the impression that we had a new relationship with the DPRK. Bush took a lot of heat from the media and the Dems when he didn't just plunge back into talks with the DPRK. Now we know why.
15 posted on 10/17/2002 8:22:47 AM PDT by kabar
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To: sheltonmac
Thanks for the alert.

"I think we can begin to sum up the Bush Iraqi policy in one word: oil.

Why are we warring against Iraq? "

MULTIPLE CHOICE

A    Arab final solution
E    Election
I     Israel
O    Oil
U    Umbilical Dad

 

So maybe it's all of the above.

16 posted on 10/17/2002 8:27:59 AM PDT by ex-snook
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To: Sicon
"North Korea says it has a nuclear weapons program, though in 1994 they agreed NOT to pursue one - we just found this out."

We knew Russia was violating nuclear treaties during the Cold War. Why do you assume that we were completely in the dark on North Korea?

"W says we need to take down Hussein because of the threat he poses with his nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs..."

I can't say for certain whether or not our war with Iraq will be about oil, but I do know that it isn't because Hussein poses a real threat. I mean, how can Iraq threaten us with something it doesn't have?

"This MUST mean that N. Korea poses a greater threat than Iraq (first point of faulty logic)."

Think about it--North Korea has nukes that can take out entire cities. Iraq doesn't. Which nation poses the biggest threat, the one with nuclear capabilites or the one without? It's not rocket science....well, okay, maybe it is rocket science when we're talking nuclear missiles.

17 posted on 10/17/2002 8:28:14 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac
I don't know how to respond to logic like that, but I will try. I agree, as stated earlier, that we knew some time ago that the DPRK was violating their agreement with us. Bush inherited a flawed policy and must now try to set it straight.

The danger Saddam poses to the US has more to do with the use of surrogates (terrorists like AQ) to wage war with WMD against the US making it very difficult for us to retaliate against him. We still don't know where the anthrax attacks came from. The AQ has the infrastructure and global reach to carry out these attacks against us.

The DPRK poses a direct threat as well, but we have less options given the size and capabilities of its military, including possibly nuclear weapons. We must try to stop the transfer of weapons technology to regimes such as Iraq and Iran--not to mention terrorist groups. There are limits to our power and what we can do. We recognized that with the Soviet Union and China -- hence our containment policy. Eliminating Saddam sends a message of our resolve. The DPRK has its vulnerabillities--particularly a terrible economy and widespread starvation. We must use every arrow in our quiver to take them down.
18 posted on 10/17/2002 8:47:36 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
You have it right Kabar. The threat is the handing off of WMD via the labyrinth of terrorist and radical Arab countries'(Iraq/Iran/others) already intertwined connections.

Korea is also likely involved as well. The best way to deal with this is to cut off all aid immediately. And I mean all aid. The NKs had a sweetheart deal and couldnt even abide by that.

We should also subtley take action against NKs big brother Mao partner China - by sending even more advanced weapons to Taiwan and allowing a high profile govt official to attend a formal US function. This is hardball and I dont mean that big limp wrist Matthews. I mean "Victory" type hardball.
19 posted on 10/17/2002 8:55:48 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: sheltonmac
North Korea, one of the pillars of Bush's "Axis of Evil," admits to having nukes, and the administration doesn't know what to do. Iraq, on the other hand, a nation without nuclear capabilities, must be taken out post-haste because it poses an imminent threat. How stupid do they think we are? I think we can begin to sum up the Bush Iraqi policy in one word: oil.

I think this is really dumb on a lot of counts. First, we have to take on Iraq immediately precisely because they do not yet have nukes, but may gain them if we wait. If Iraq had nukes, we sure as hell wouldn't be about to launch a conventional attack... in response they'd send one into NYC in a cargo container and where would we be then?

Second, Saddam is an imminent threat because he's a madman and hates us. He tried to assassinate Bush senior, he torched the Kuwaiti oil fields in hopes of creating a nuclear winter. I have no real doubt he'd nuke us as his dying act if he could. The Korean dictator mostly just wants to be left alone to oppress the Korean people.

20 posted on 10/17/2002 9:22:24 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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