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Twenty-three year old man shot dead by police in a marijuana raid
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/01/02 | Cathy Mong

Posted on 10/01/2002 7:16:59 AM PDT by Phantom Lord

Dozens protest Preble County police shooting

Slain man’s roommates say he was unarmed

EATON | Preble County law-enforcement officials declined to talk publicly Monday as they turned information about Friday's fatal shooting by a police officer of a 23-year-old man over to detectives from the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office.

Montgomery County investigators, called in by Preble County Sheriff Tom Hayes, also said they would not talk about their review of the shooting by a member of a Preble County's emergency services group — officers from a number of police departments who are trained to handle drownings and hostage and other situations.

However, it was anything but quiet outside the Preble County Courthouse, where dozens of friends and relatives picketed and said that police were covering up what happened to Clayton Jacob Helriggle, 23, of 1282 Ohio 503 South.

The protesters disputed police claims that Helriggle had a gun when he descended a stairwell and was shot by a Lewisburg police officer, whose identity has not been released. Friends and relatives on Monday carried blue plastic cups similar to the one they said Helriggle had in his hand Friday night.

Among the protesters were four of Helriggle's roommates, three of whom said they were inside the brick farmhouse when police stormed the house to serve a warrant to search for narcotics.

Maj. Wayne Simpson of the Preble County Sheriff's Office declined to discuss information about what happened Friday night and said a report on the shooting of the Preble County man had not been completed. Preble County Prosecutor Rebecca Ferguson said she sealed the search warrant after the shooting, and had no comment regarding the investigation.

"They're a professional group of officers, that's what their job is, and I'm not going to second-guess them. Whatever (Montgomery County officials) come up with, they come up with," Ferguson said.

Friends called Helriggle "peaceful and nonviolent," but police said the 1997 Twin Valley South High School graduate held a 9 mm handgun, not a blue cup, in his right hand when he descended the dimly lighted stairs. Roommates said Helriggle owned a 9 mm gun, but that it was upstairs when police entered their house.

"It's like we were armed, hardened criminals waiting inside to take them on," said Wes Bradley, 26, who lived in the bottom of the six-bedroom farmhouse with his girlfriend, 22-year-old Tasha Webster.

Bradley said he and Webster were near the kitchen next to the stairs, when officers "broke through the back door with battering rams and started throwing in flash grenades three at a time, to blind us."

The officers wore full body armor and carried shields, he said.

Another roommate, Ian Albert, said he had returned home from the grocery store with Chris Elmore, 24, who remained outside while Albert ran into the house.

"We saw at least two paddy wagon-type vehicles, like a SWAT bus," Elmore said. "About 30 officers stormed out of the woods" surrounding the farmhouse. "They'd cut the barbed wire, and you could see a staging area, like where 25 to 30 uniformed cops had been lying down and slithered along the grass."

Officers ordered Elmore to get on the ground, and he said he heard three pops, which he said could have been the flash grenades and gunshot.

"I yelled 'Nobody's armed,' and they told me, 'Shut up, shut up.' ”

Elmore described the action "like a movie, in slow motion."

Inside, Albert said, the police threw him against the staircase, "with my head on the second step up. I wanted to yell at Clay, but I looked up and saw him, rounding the stairway, and he had this look on his face, like, 'What's going on?' and the cops yelled, 'Get down' and then 'boom.' ”

Albert, who completed four months of Navy Seal training, said he reached up for Helriggle, "and I tried to apply pressure," he said, placing his left palm on his right chest, where Helriggle was struck by the gunshot.

"He died in my arms," he said. "It took about two minutes."

Albert said he was placed in a sheriff's car, and Helriggle's parents arrived.

"They saw me, drenched in Clay's blood, and they ask me, 'Is he all right?' and I just shook my head. The cops are smoking and joking, high-fiving each other. Wow, I think, they took down a farm of unarmed hippies.

"If they would have come to the door and said, 'Give us your dope, hippies,' we'd have gotten about a $100 ticket."

Police said they confiscated a small amount of marijuana, pills, drug paraphernalia and quantities of packaging items used in the distribution of marijuana.

The four roommates said they smoke marijuana from time to time and that they had marijuana pipes in the house. Bradley said he had a prescription for Fiorocet, a codeinelike painkiller, for a bad knee. They said the packaging police referred to was a box of plastic sandwich bags.

Webster said there was nothing in the house "that a good divorce lawyer couldn't have gotten us out on a misdemeanor," and said an old shotgun and a .22-caliber rifle found there were used for hunting.

"We target-practiced outside all the time, shot at bales of hay, jugs, that sort of thing," Webster said.

Bradley and Webster said Helriggle took a nap around 5 p.m. and had made plans to meet his girlfriend later.

"I'm not sure if he woke up from the bashing on the door or what," Bradley said.

All four said they were not read their rights or told what charges were filed against them. They were released from the Preble County Jail around 1:30 a.m. Saturday. No criminal charges have been filed.

Nancy Fahrenholz, the daughter of Everett "Bill" Fahrenholz, an attorney and former country prosecutor, hugged Bradley on Monday at the courthouse. Helriggle and five roommates rented the house from the Fahrenholzes.

"I'm so sorry," said Fahrenholz, a Rhode Island resident in the area to finish up the estate of her father, Bill Fahrenholz, who died a month ago.

"(Dad) would have been furious at this," she said. "We're all very distressed."

She said Helriggle "was a really nice guy," and that her family was pleased with the five young people's work on rehabilitating the farmhouse.

Helriggle's 77-year-old grandfather, Donald, a Miamisburg resident and Ohio Bell retiree, said his grandson rented the farmhouse "so they could play their instruments, listen to their music and drink a little beer. . . . They just wanted to be doing what 23-year-olds do."


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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Perhaps if you brought forward evidence that FDR and the Illuminati used time machines to go back and manipulate the 1824 Gibbons decision, your conspiracy theory of the law might be less inane.
361 posted on 10/02/2002 1:42:20 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FormerLurker
Apparently it's easier to repeal a Constitutional Amendment than repeal an act of Congress.

Oh? How long did it take?

362 posted on 10/02/2002 1:45:19 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
BTW, absinthe was banned in the United States in 1912.

The SALE of absinthe was banned, although possession remains legal to this day. Importation (while a murky subject) for personal use is apparently still legal, although if found by US Customs being brought into the country, it will be confiscated.

363 posted on 10/02/2002 1:48:03 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Roscoe
That laughter you hear is everyone who has actually taken a con law class roaring over the fact that you're still trying to apply Gibbons to this issue here.
364 posted on 10/02/2002 1:48:41 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Roscoe
Oh? How long did it take?

The 21st Amendment which repealed the 18th was proposed by Congress February 20, 1933, and proclaimed adopted December 5, 1933.

So that is a little less than 10 months.

365 posted on 10/02/2002 1:50:50 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Roscoe
You seem to be suggesting that enforcement must wait until the moment of actual sale. That's ludicrous.

I know it sounds radical, but some people think the police should wait until someone actually commits a crime before they arrest them.

366 posted on 10/02/2002 1:52:38 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: AppyPappy
As a resident of this area, I have heard nothing about Ted Nugent being here. Calling these people hippies is mild. They showed up at the funeral in tiedie tees and jeans, and multiple body piercings.
367 posted on 10/02/2002 1:52:52 PM PDT by Wiser now
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To: Roscoe
Massive amounts of illicit drugs are being "bought, sold or traded." Congress and the states both typically set different penalties for possession of different quantitities of illicit drugs.

That still doesn't explain the logic that says if some of a particular item is bought, sold or traded, then all of it is commerce, and all of it is interstate.

368 posted on 10/02/2002 1:58:53 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: FormerLurker
So that is a little less than 10 months.

1919 to 1933 is 14 years.

369 posted on 10/02/2002 2:28:39 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
That laughter you hear

Sorry, I can't hear the voices in your head.

370 posted on 10/02/2002 2:29:25 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
1919 to 1933 is 14 years.

Er, they didn't TRY to repeal the 18th Amendment as soon as it was ratified Roscoe.

The time it took to ratify the 21st Amendment was 10 months. By comparison, the 18th Amendment was proposed on December 19, 1917 and was proclaimed adopted on January 29, 1919. That is a time frame of a little over 13 months...

In any event, how many federal laws have EVER been repealed?

371 posted on 10/02/2002 2:38:13 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Phantom Lord
The latest on this story: There was a 9mm gun found in the stairwell near the body, and NO blue cup. This is an old farmhouse,circa 1870 to 1900, with one of those enclosed staircases with pivoting stairs
372 posted on 10/02/2002 2:42:17 PM PDT by Wiser now
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To: tacticalogic
That still doesn't explain the logic that says if some of a particular item is bought, sold or traded, then all of it is commerce, and all of it is interstate.

It isn't reasonably possible to make the distinction between the two, as a general rule. A package of illicit drugs doesn't include documentation certifying its origins and various destinations. In practice, enforcement efforts aren't directed toward personal users with a closet growlight.

373 posted on 10/02/2002 2:42:27 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FormerLurker
Er, they didn't TRY to repeal the 18th Amendment as soon as it was ratified Roscoe.

There was opposition from the very beginning.

374 posted on 10/02/2002 2:43:22 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: tacticalogic
I know it sounds radical, but some people think the police should wait until someone actually commits a crime before they arrest them.

Possession of illicit drugs is normally a crime.

375 posted on 10/02/2002 2:44:52 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Possession of illicit drugs is normally a crime.

Then why pray tell wasn't the possession of alcohol illegal during the Prohibition? Why is it that the Commerce clause is sufficient to PROHIBIT drugs but not alcohol?

376 posted on 10/02/2002 3:09:51 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Roscoe
There was opposition from the very beginning.

Then they shouldn't have proposed and ratified the 18th Amendement. If it were so easy to nullify and Act of Congress as you imply, then perhaps that should have gone THAT route. Perhaps Roscoe, they realized that it was UNCONSTITUTIONAL to PROHIBIT ANYTHING via the Commerce clause.

THAT is the reason why they passed the 18th Amendment, as the Commerce clause DOES NOT EMPOWER Congress to prohibit anything whatsoever.

377 posted on 10/02/2002 3:13:39 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
BTW, here's another cite for your "con law" class at the back of the trailer park.

The Supremacy Clause of Article VI of the United States Constitution mandates that federal law supersede state law where there is an outright conflict between such laws. See Gibbons v. Ogden, 22 (9 Wheat) U.S. 1, 210, 6 L.Ed. 23 (1824); Free v. Bland, 369 U.S. 663, 666, 82 S. Ct. 1089, 8 L.Ed.2d 180 (1962); Industrial Truck Ass'n, Inc. v. Henry, 125 F.3d 1305, 1309 (9th Cir. 1997) (state law is preempted "where it is impossible to comply with both state and federal requirements, or where state law stands as an obstacle to the accomplishment and execution of the full purpose and objectives of Congress"). Recognizing this basic principle of constitutional law, defendants do not contend that Proposition 215 supersedes federal law, 21 U.S.C. § 841(a). Indeed, Proposition 215 on its face purports only to exempt certain patients and their primary caregivers from prosecution under certain California drug laws-it does not purport to exempt those patients and caregivers from the federal laws.

May 13, 1998 Order from the District Court
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA


378 posted on 10/02/2002 3:14:58 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FormerLurker
Then they shouldn't have proposed and ratified the 18th Amendement.

What Amendment to the Constitution ever faced no opposition?

379 posted on 10/02/2002 3:16:15 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FormerLurker
Then why pray tell wasn't the possession of alcohol illegal during the Prohibition?

The 18th Amendment didn't ban alcohol.

380 posted on 10/02/2002 3:17:57 PM PDT by Roscoe
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