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Illegal alien driver's licenses in California
American Patrol ^ | 9/30/02 | Tancredo Fan

Posted on 09/30/2002 9:54:24 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan

The word is that California Governor Gray Davis has vetoed California AB60, the bill that would have allowed illegal alien invaders to get driver's licenses. Will wonders never cease.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasion

1 posted on 09/30/2002 9:54:24 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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A hallelujah ping.
2 posted on 09/30/2002 9:55:15 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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3 posted on 09/30/2002 9:57:13 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Tancredo Fan
So who do you think bought him off of this sick piece of legistation ?
4 posted on 09/30/2002 9:57:38 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Tancredo Fan
This would be good news. He had said that he would veto the bill if it didn't include background checks. He must feel that he has thrown enough the immigrant's way to get their vote.
5 posted on 09/30/2002 9:58:49 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: tubebender
I don't know, but I suspect that it was a coup since Simon came out and said he'd sign this traitorous legislation. Davis would look like the good guy if the whacked it. I'm glad he did, but I'm writing in Ward Connerly for governor. We need no RINOs in California. Simon isn't fit to be dog catcher in East L.A. :-D
6 posted on 09/30/2002 10:05:25 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
Yes, Davis vetoed AB60. I did a search when I previewed my post, but then made some changes without searching again, so I missed seeing yours.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/760456/posts
Governor vetoes undocumented driver's license bill

(alternately titled Calif. Gov. Vetoes License Bill)

Gov. Gray Davis vetoed legislation letting some illegal immigrants obtain California driver's licenses Monday, as he completed action on some of the most controversial bills sent to his desk this fall.

The governor's politically charged decision forced him to weigh what he said were increased security risks from licensing non-citizens after last year's terrorist attacks against the urging of immigrant rights groups that said it would make California's highways safer.

Davis demanded a series of safeguards, including fingerprint background checks and cooperation with the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service.

That angered Hispanic groups vital to his re-election campaign. Earlier in the day, however, Davis signed legislation supported by Hispanic groups giving increased bargaining power to farmworkers.

Legislators reluctantly amended the driver's license bill to comply with the governor's concerns as they rushed to adjourn a month ago.

But Davis enumerated five specific loopholes in addition to a handful of other areas where he said the language still fell short of what he had requested. Without those safeguards, Davis said the bill was too dangerous.
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7 posted on 09/30/2002 10:07:57 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Tancredo Fan
Well, well, well. I thought if Davis had any idea he would breeze into reelection he would sign this bill. He must be a teeny bit worried! Thanks be to God for this victory if it is true!
8 posted on 09/30/2002 10:09:53 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Tancredo Fan
"Simon came out and said he'd sign this traitorous legislation."

Really? I guess the transportation industry money went to him, not Davis. They want this bill to undercut wages for truckers and others in the transportation industry. You know how much those greedy truckers are being overpaid!

< /sarcsm>

9 posted on 09/30/2002 10:17:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Tancredo Fan
Simon came out and said he'd sign this traitorous legislation

No, he did not. He avoided answering questions about it (at least twice on Hannity) and suggested that something could be worked out, for fear of being branded a racist in the little TV media exposure that he gets. I wish he were more direct about illegal aliens, but there's no way a write-in for Ward Connerly will work this year.

If Davis wins, he will almost surely sign a bill for illegal alien drivers licenses next year, when the legislature sends it to him again. Simon may not, so it's better to take the gamble.

Besides, Simon is better on so many other issues. As long as Davis and the democrats keep increasing the social programs (and our taxes), they will encourage more illegal aliens squatting in our state to stay and bring their families. If we can cut some of the programs, the state will look less attractive to the aliens, thereby (hopefully) reducing some of the invasion. I hope you will still consider voting for Simon.

10 posted on 09/30/2002 10:19:01 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
Yes, Davis vetoed AB60. I did a search when I previewed my post, but then made some changes without searching again, so I missed seeing yours.

Thanks for the link. Glad to see this nutty bill go away.

11 posted on 09/30/2002 10:19:31 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
Good. Now they won't drive. <|:)~


12 posted on 09/30/2002 10:22:41 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: Tancredo Fan
Simon came out and said he'd sign this traitorous legislation.

I didn't see that. Gotta link?




13 posted on 09/30/2002 10:22:52 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: heleny
No, he did not.

Yes, he did. Frankly, I don't think Simon has the brains God gave to a screwdriver. Neither Davis or Simon are worthy of holding public office IMO.

Migrant driver's licenses urged

Latino activists and others plan a campaign to pressure Davis to sign the measure.

August 10, 2002

By MINERVA CANTO and HANH KIM QUACH
The Orange County Register

LOS ANGELES ­ Gov. Gray Davis soon will have to decide whether to sign a bill that would grant driver's licenses to certain undocumented immigrants after a months-long impasse over security concerns broke this week.

Latino activists and other community leaders vowed Friday to pressure the governor with letter-writing campaigns, days-long vigils and demonstrations in Los Angeles and Sacramento.

A gathering of more than 60 people at Resurrection Church hall in Boyle Heights to discuss the bill's fate turned into a mobilizing campaign as union leaders, community activists, immigrants and others from Southern California volunteered to organize activities.

Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, who is sponsoring the bill, said he will send it to the governor next week.

Davis' office was silent on where the governor stands on the bill.

AB60 would grant driver's licenses to immigrants who have started the naturalization process and received a receipt from the INS and a tax identification number from the IRS.

The bill would require a background check, but will not contain a controversial amendment that would have mandated a phrase or marker on the license identifying the driver as an illegal immigrant.

"The background check is the same as the one they're already doing for their INS application," said Cedillo, D-Los Angeles. "I would not support anything that would be discriminatory against immigrants."

Many at the gathering Friday said they believe the timing for such a campaign is perfect given the upcoming gubernatorial election and the importance of the growing Latino voter population.

"The conditions are right. He (Davis) has the largest immigrant population in the country, many of them newly naturalized citizens. By signing this bill, he can send a message to the rest of the country that immigrants are not terrorists," said Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles.

Erica Turner of Buena Park, however, believes signing the bill will send another, less desired message to the illegal immigrant community that "lawbreaking will be rewarded."

Others, who like Turner had hoped Republican gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon would speak out against illegal immigrants, have been disappointed.

Just a few weeks ago, Simon announced that he would sign AB60 if he were governor.

"I believe we need to give the undocumented community an opportunity, show them the way," Simon told La Opinion, the largest Spanish-language daily in California, during a campaign visit through East Los Angeles last month. "Because we're talking about people who live here, pay their taxes and I believe should be allowed to continue along the path they've found here."

Some believe Simon's friendlier stance toward the undocumented immigrant community is what may have helped jumpstart negotiations.

The bill was stalled in the Assembly for a year as the Davis administration and Cedillo's office worked with law enforcement and immigration advocates to address falsified foreign identifications and the potential for fraud.

Davis has previously indicated he would sign the bill, but only if certain conditions were met.

These included a background check, a phrase or marker on the license identifying the driver as an illegal immigrant, and a biometric system to limit the amount of fraud that could occur with falsified paperwork.�

14 posted on 09/30/2002 10:44:23 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
Thanks for providing your source. I couldn't find any quotes of Simon saying he would or wouldn't sign AB60, with or without qualifiers. Too bad.

From the Simon/Camejo debate (Davis absent) organized by the ethnic-minority New California Media here,
"Simon said he would not sign AB60 without 'comprehensive immigration reform.'"

It's disappointing he doesn't espouse a harder line against illegal immigration, but if our state "political climate" keeps sliding toward more democrat liberals, we won't even need any more immigration discussions.

According to a picture caption on
Conquest of Aztlan Nears Completion
California Governor Gray Davis to Deliver State to Mexico
,
"'In the near future, people will look upon California and Mexico as one magnificent region.' -- Gray Davis -- [Note: Bustamante is another former MEChA member]"

Yuck. I just hope Simon stays away from immigration liberalism when he becomes governor. I don't think it's among his top priorities.

15 posted on 09/30/2002 11:23:13 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Tancredo Fan
Just a few weeks ago, Simon announced that he would sign AB60 if he were governor.

That does it. Buh-bye, Simon.

17 posted on 10/01/2002 7:52:53 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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