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Florida Terror Arrests a "Hoax?"
Miami Herald | 9-13-2003 | Tim Chapman

Posted on 09/13/2002 11:51:10 AM PDT by EggsAckley

Federal investigators checking 3 men who reported ``America would cry on 9/13.'' By DAVID GREEN AND DAVID KIDWELL dgreen@herald.com

TIM CHAPMAN/MIAMI HERALD

A bomb squad member attaches a string to an item in one of the suspected cars on Alligator Alley where the two cars were stopped and three men were detained. A robot is at the back of the cars.

Three medical students of Middle Eastern descent who were stopped as suspected terrorists on Alligator Alley early Friday morning remained detained after they were overheard in a Georgia restaurant vowing to make America ``cry on 9/13.''

Federal sources involved in the investigation said they believe the three men - all U.S. citizens - were playing a stupid joke on another restaurant patron who gave them a suspicious look.

All three were on their way from Illinois to take medical training in Miami.

Federal sources said the men could be released as early as today with a ticket for blowing the I-75 toll booth near Naples.

Alligator Alley was closed to traffic all day Friday as explosives investigators searched for any kinds of devices in the two cars. Those searches had come up empty as of 1 p.m. Friday afternoon.

''It appears there isn't a terrorist threat as it relates to destrutive devices in the cars,'' Gov. Jeb Bush said at a Miami news conference Friday. ``If this was a hoax, my hope is these people would be prosecuted.''

One federal source said although there is a federal statute against making terrorist threats, it remained unclear on Friday exactly what transpired Thursday morning in a Shoney's restaurant in Calhoun, Ga.

Eunice Stone, a nurse, told authorities and Fox News Channel she was sitting in a booth next to the three men shortly about 10:30 a.m. when she overheard the men laughing about 9/11 and making comments like ''if we don't have enough to bring it down I have contacts'' and ``if they're mourning 9/11 what are they going to do about 9/13?''

In an interview on Fox News Channel on Friday, Stone said she thought they might be playing a hoax.

''We hesitated to call anyone because we thought, they're just playing us,'' Stone said. ``But then I thought what's the right thing to do? If it turns out it's nothing, then it's nothing.

''I hope I haven't done something wrong,'' she said. ``I hope I haven't caused someone problems that really didn't do anything because I wouldn't want to cause someone problems. But at the same time I thought what if they really are doing something and I caught them?''

Stone collected license tag numbers and called Georgia authorities, who issued an alert for the two cars.

The odyssey ended after midnight Friday morning when a Collier County sheriff's deputy pulled over both cars after they blew throught the Naples toll booth. However, several other things conspired to escalate the incident even further.

According to police sources, all three men at first were uncooperative - denying consent to search the car.

''It was probably not the right time for them to be copping an attitude with police,'' said one federal law enforcement source who was up all night monitoring the investigation. ``But that's exactly what happened.''

Then, two separate police dogs alerted to the presence of incendiary materials in both cars, and the license tag on one of the cars wasn't registered to the vehicle.

Authorities are still investigating the license tag issue, but said Friday they do not suspect the three in a terrorist plot.

The Miami-Dade Police Department's explosives robot has been called in to further examine the cars and their contents.

According to investigators, all three men -- a Lebanese, a Jordanian and an Iranian - are U.S. citizens - one U.S. born.

Investigators have not found any links between the men and al-Qaeda -- the international terrorist organization beleived to responsible for the World Trade Center attacks -- nor have their names turned up on any federal terrorist watch lists, the sources said.

The three men apparently were enroute to South Miami to attend a medical college.


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KEYWORDS: conversation; mideasterners; shoneys; terrorists
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Just found this on Drudge, and couldn't find it here.
1 posted on 09/13/2002 11:51:10 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: EggsAckley
Ms. Stone should probably be put in charge of homeland security. The medical students should spend a night in the county jail.
2 posted on 09/13/2002 11:53:30 AM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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To: EggsAckley
We do have a thread for this, but this is a good summary. There are a lot of differences in details from other reports.
3 posted on 09/13/2002 11:54:59 AM PDT by js1138
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To: EggsAckley
This is either a huge coincidence, or these guys were "pulsing the system," to use a phrase from the Bad Old Days of the Cold War. ("Pulsing the system" involved deliberate overflights of the other side's territory, solely for the purpose of getting the other side to switch on radars, lauch interceptors, et cetera. The plane performing the incursion would then proceed to record the incoming signals.)
4 posted on 09/13/2002 11:55:13 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: EggsAckley
They are so funny they should be sent to clown college in Turkey for some intensive humor seminars.
5 posted on 09/13/2002 11:55:28 AM PDT by eno_
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To: EggsAckley
If it was a hoax, these boys are not smart enough to be doctors. Throw 'em in the clink for a while anyway, garnish their future wages for the cost of this investigation.
6 posted on 09/13/2002 11:56:17 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: EggsAckley
So much for the competence of the bomb-sniffing dogs.
7 posted on 09/13/2002 11:56:44 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Poohbah
Do we know yet the ethnicity of the pilot of that small plane brought down by the f-16s?
8 posted on 09/13/2002 11:57:40 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: eno_
If this is a hoax you are going to see their sorry asses on Oprah emoting about how terrible this country treats Muslims. Idiots.
9 posted on 09/13/2002 11:57:41 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: EggsAckley
The money that these clowns cost all the good citizens in that area for lost time, wasted gasoline while waiting for the traffic jam they created to clear, etc., etc., should be calculated, and then these three bozos should be fined for that amount.

The money could then be donated to a veterans' relief fund or other such organization. These idiots can then spend the rest of the "medical careers" paying off the debt their indescretion has incurred and thinking about how lucky they were that worse did not happen to them.


10 posted on 09/13/2002 11:58:20 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Aggie Mama
It's only a 'hoax' if they can't actually find explosives. Doesn't mean they weren't actually planning anything, only that they didn't get caught. They'll fry this poor woman in GA because she's southern, white, lives in a trailer park and is clearly part of the reason 'they hate us over there'.
11 posted on 09/13/2002 11:59:15 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: EggsAckley
This is NOT a hoax. Normal people do not go around joking about 9/11, changing license plates on cars, and having material in the cars that alert bomb-smelling dogs.

I am afraid that the bomb may have aleady bee dropped off at some site or was being carried to the site by another car.

Hopefully, the terrorist decide not to bomb since some of their compatriots have been detained.
12 posted on 09/13/2002 11:59:23 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: The Vast Right Wing
No, they should go to the pokey for a few months. You can't say hijack on a plane, you can't yell fire in a movie theater, so you sure as hell should not be allowed to make false terrorist threats. This isn't a free speech issue, either. It's a common sense issue that puts the public safety at risk.
13 posted on 09/13/2002 11:59:45 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Iwo Jima
These were Floriduh bomb sniffing dogs.
14 posted on 09/13/2002 11:59:53 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Joe Brower
thinking about how lucky they were that worse did not happen to them.

EggsAckley! How would they be treated in say.......Iraq?

15 posted on 09/13/2002 12:00:06 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Aggie Mama
If it was a hoax, what a stupid thing to do. I'm not convinced that they weren't sent ahead just to "test" the competency of homeland security.
16 posted on 09/13/2002 12:00:15 PM PDT by Utopia
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To: The Vast Right Wing
2 dogs hit on incendiary devices....

one license plate did not belong to one of the cars?...

laughing about 9/11 and joking about further mourning?...

blowing thru a toll booth?...

incooperative when stopped?...

methinks they don't need to be let go so quickly - but that's just my common sense talking.

17 posted on 09/13/2002 12:00:23 PM PDT by Principled
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To: EggsAckley
Middle Eastern types making jokes about September 11 terrorism are about as funny as a big blonde Aryan laughing about Auschwitz in a synagogue. These clowns should get one-way tickets to Baghdad so they can try laughing as the bombs begin to fall.
18 posted on 09/13/2002 12:00:49 PM PDT by Argus
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To: hellinahandcart
Yes. Then strip them of their citizenship and send them back to live with their (one can only assume less humor-impaired) brethern in their natal Islamic paradise. If we can take away Nazis' citizenship, we can do the same for towel heads. I wouldn't want one of these guys coming near me with a stethescope. Would you want a doctor with that kind of judgment?
19 posted on 09/13/2002 12:00:52 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Joe Brower
If this is true, deport their asses. Drive them to the freaking airport and put them on a plane bound for Ali Baba land.. .......
20 posted on 09/13/2002 12:01:02 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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