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Baggy Pants Spark Controversy At Belleville High
Local 4 News - ClickonDetroit ^ | Aug 29, 2002

Posted on 08/30/2002 5:52:20 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog

BELLEVILLE, Mich.-- A dispute over baggy pants has lead to the suspension of two Belleville High School students, Local 4 reported Thursday.

Van Buren School District officials sent out a letter this summer warning parents and students about tougher dress code standards aimed at reducing distractions in the classroom.

"Students shall not wear pants that, when fastened, sag or fit below the waist," the policy states.

Charlene Byrd is upset that teachers have allegedly been pulling up students' shirts to check to see whether the students are adhering to the policy.

Byrd's son, Matt, is one of the boys who has been suspended. She said that she paid $75 for the pants that her son was suspended for wearing.

"I will take him to another school district. I will do what I have to do. It's not fair to the kids," Charlene Byrd said.

The school district has issued 30 in-school suspensions for dress code violations so far, Local 4 reported.

Students argue that the pants are part of the latest fashion trend and that they are comfortable.

Matt Byrd said that he felt uncomfortable with having teachers lift up his shirt to see whehter his pants sagged.


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She said that she paid $75 for the pants that her son was suspended for wearing. "I will take him to another school district. I will do what I have to do. It's not fair to the kids," Charlene Byrd said.

What an idiot. I have a better idea: suspend HER credit card.

1 posted on 08/30/2002 5:52:20 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: fivecatsandadog
Exactly what I was thinking.
2 posted on 08/30/2002 5:59:53 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Bikers4Bush; fivecatsandadog
I second that motion.
3 posted on 08/30/2002 6:01:32 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: fivecatsandadog
I bet the teachers aren't lifting the shirts although I can't imagine why anyone cares unless their crack is showing.
4 posted on 08/30/2002 6:02:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: fivecatsandadog
Matt Byrd said that he felt uncomfortable with having teachers lift up his shirt to see whehter his pants sagged.

But walking around with his underwear hanging out doesn't bother him at all.

5 posted on 08/30/2002 6:03:11 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: fivecatsandadog
Students argue that the pants are part of the latest fashion trend and that they are comfortable.

Latest trend, my foot. I've been waiting twenty years for this "trend" to finally go away. This "trend" began here before any of the students in this story were frickin' conceived.

ENOUGH ALREADY! Get yourselves some pants that FIT!

7 posted on 08/30/2002 6:07:11 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Wolfie
What right does a teacher have to even touch a student? He should have told the teacher to keep his hands to himself.
8 posted on 08/30/2002 6:07:28 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: fivecatsandadog
Byrd's son, Matt, is one of the boys who has been suspended. She said that she paid $75 for the pants that her son was suspended for wearing.
"I will take him to another school district. I will do what I have to do. It's not fair to the kids," Charlene Byrd said.

Haven't you gotten the memo yet, Charlene? There are no parental rights anymore. You don't get to decide what your minor children wear, the state does. You thought YOU were in charge of your son? You thought YOU made the decisions? Ha! To laugh! Your kids are property of the state. Your wishes are meaningless. You are only a parent. The state will tell you how to dress, what to feed, and how to discipline your children. Just submit and like it. It's easier that way.

9 posted on 08/30/2002 6:10:08 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: ladylib
Talk to a teacher and find out for yourself what students try to "sneak" into the classroom. You'd be surprised.
10 posted on 08/30/2002 6:10:18 AM PDT by smiley
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To: fivecatsandadog
Years ago I worked in a clothes store. A little kid about knee high to a duck comes in looking for pants; couldn't have been more than 13-14. Wanted that "baggy" look. He should have been in the young boys section, his waist was probably 24-26" - but he buys a pair of 36" pants!

I asked him how are you gonna fit in those, son? "It's the style - they're cool," was all he said.

Two days later Mamma comes in the store, an embarassed Junior in tow. Mom returned the pants stating they were the "wrong size"!

11 posted on 08/30/2002 6:15:58 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: southern rock
Kind a funny, isn't it? If they were asking him to whip it out and urinate into a cup in full view of a pee collector, everybody'd be applauding.
12 posted on 08/30/2002 6:21:11 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: smiley
Talk to a teacher and find out for yourself what students try to "sneak" into the classroom. You'd be surprised.

The reason gangters where these baggy pants on the street is so that their handgun does not produce a bulge in their pants that would tip off the police.
13 posted on 08/30/2002 6:21:22 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: southern rock
MAN OVERBOARD!
14 posted on 08/30/2002 6:21:44 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: LetsRok
The reason gangters where these baggy pants on the street is so that their handgun does not produce a bulge in their pants that would tip off the police.

So technically, the 2nd amendment ought to have eliminated the need for baggy pants long ago. Hmmm.

15 posted on 08/30/2002 6:24:42 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: fivecatsandadog
I will take him to another school district

This is the appropriate way to handle the situation in a free market...Oh, I forgot, the public schools are a monopoly. She probably won't be able to do this legally without moving.

16 posted on 08/30/2002 6:24:44 AM PDT by bankwalker
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To: Joe Boucher
"This stupid idiot parent backs her sons behavior"

Exactly. Seems to me that if some people had more COMMON SENSE and RESPECT, they wouldn't have to be so worried about their "rights" being violated. It's all ME, ME, ME, ME these days.
17 posted on 08/30/2002 6:32:36 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: ladylib
What right does a teacher have to even touch a student? He should have told the teacher to keep his hands to himself.

In my day, the teachers still administered corporal punishment. I wouldn't have dared to tell my dad that I had gotten a spanking in school because I would've gotten another one from him. School was a civil place back then, whether our rights were violated or not- I don't know. I know my parents condoned the teachers warming my backside if I felt like it was ok to ruin other kids education.

18 posted on 08/30/2002 6:35:25 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: fivecatsandadog
Seems to me that if some people had more COMMON SENSE and RESPECT, they wouldn't have to be so worried about their "rights" being violated.

I love it! Forget you have rights, and you won't be upset when they are taken away. Perfect!

19 posted on 08/30/2002 6:35:47 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock
There is a school district in CA that has taken it upon itself to confiscate junk food that students bring from home for lunch. One teacher said she would tell a student to bring an apple rather a bag of chips and confiscate the chips. Who the hell is she to tell a student what to bring to school to eat? You better believe that parents are losing their rights.
20 posted on 08/30/2002 6:38:33 AM PDT by ladylib
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