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Britain blames US for failing world's poor
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 08/26/2002 | Anthony Browne

Posted on 08/25/2002 5:20:23 PM PDT by Pokey78

UN says failure at Earth Summit would fuel global terrorism

Deep tensions between Britain and the US have emerged ahead of the Earth Summit in Johannesburg, which remains shrouded in pessimism ahead of its official start today.

The summit is aimed at reducing world poverty through promoting environmentally sustainable growth, and although it is seen as the most important world summit for years, there are growing concerns that virtually nothing significant will be achieved.

As the gloom deepened in the corridors, it seems many delegates are staying away. Although 65,000 delegates had been predictected to turn up, the UN has downgraded its expectations to just 40,000, and by yesterday only 9,000 delegates and journalists had been accredited.

Last night it also emerged that inspite of the extra 8,000 police on duty, that a shot had been fired at a Swiss delegate in an attempted robbery in a hotel. It followed the earlier robbery on Saturday night of another delegate in a nearby room.

The UK has backed calls from developing countries for targets to reduce the number of people who don’t have access to drinking water, sanitation or electricity. The UN has warned that unless real progress is made, the world will be increasingly divided between haves and have nots, fuelling global terrorism.

However, the US yesterday made clear that it does not want any new targets and will not provide any new money to reduce poverty or help protect the environment. The head of the US delegation John Turner said yesterday: “We don’t see the need for any new targets.”

Although 100 world leaders have said they will attend the summit, President Bush has said he will not attend. The head of the British delegation, the Environment Secretary Margaret Beckett, yesterday showed growing frustration with American intransigence, which could derail the summit. She said: “It’s true that the American government is not doing as much as we would all like to see it do, but that’s doesn’t mean there aren’t lots of people in America who take these issues just as seriously as they deserve”.

“We very much want to see targets on issues like sanitation. We hope to pursuade our American friends to agree to some of the targets” she added.

After a year of talks, no agreement has been reached on more than a quarter of the negotiating text, and there is concern that positions are now so entrenched that it will be impossible to reach any meaningful agreement in the ten days of the summit. One UN official warned that failure to resvolve outstanding issues could render the summit useless, and said they were not optimistic about progress.

“We hope to make some headway by the start of the summit. So far, what we forsee is a complete disaster” he said.

South Africa’s deputy foreign minister Aziz Pahad, insisted that while he was confident that common ground could be reached, “it would be romantic to assume that there would be absolute consensus at such a large-diverse conference.”

Tony Juniper, director-designate of Friends of the Earth, said that there was now little chance of the summit achieving anything significant. “I think it’s looking like we’re going to get a pretty modest set of outcomes. It’s clear that we’re going to get no legally binding targets” he said. Friends of the Earth has been very critical of Tony Blair’s decision to attend the summit for just one day.

Mr Blair also came under attack from his most senior environment adviser, Jonathan Porritt, who said he didn’t give environmental issues the priority they deserve. Yesterday Mrs Beckett defended the Prime Minister, saying he had been fully involved in the summit. “The idea that all he brings to the summit is the time he spends here is crazy. He’s been working on it for 18 months - he’s been engaged and involved in it all the way through” she said.

Mrs Beckett also insisted that it would be a disaster if the delegates let the growing row with Zimbabwe’s President, Robert Mugabe, to overshadow the summit. Mr Blair had been facing calls to boycott a speach by Mr Mugabe, who will be attending the summit at the same time as Mr Blair. “The most important and crucial thing is to make sure the summit is not dominated by the issue of Robert Mugabe. There is nothing President Mugabe would like better than to think a whole world summit has been hijacked by his behaviour and his concerns” said Mrs Beckett.

The start of the summit has already been overshadowed by the highly televised clash between protestors and police in the centre of Johannesbug. Activists claimed that police, who fired stun grenades at a candle-lit demonstration which included children, were being heavy handed. However, Johannesburg’s Police Director Happy Schutter defended their action, saying that the marchers had not obtained permission. “We had to show them we wouldn’t let this happen during the summit. If they want to march they must get permission” he said.

The South African government has been worried that the summit could be as disrupted by protests as earlier summits such as Genoa, and have drafted in tens of thousands of police from surrounding areas. The Sandton City shopping and hotel complex has been cordoned off to outsiders, with incredibly tight security both surrounding it and inside. The organisers have been worried about actions by terrorists since this is the first meeting of world leaders since September 11th, and is taking place just before the anniversary of the attack on the US.


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To: Pokey78
Crappy government is the reason for the world's poor.
Is everybody stupid over there?
61 posted on 08/26/2002 5:11:44 AM PDT by Octavius
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To: madfly
PING
62 posted on 08/26/2002 5:23:09 AM PDT by gilor
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To: Pokey78
Britain blames US for failing world's poor

So now the US is supposed to take care of the WORLD'S poor?
What a bunch of tripe.

If every other country wants the US to take care of the world's poor - Give the US the world.

63 posted on 08/26/2002 6:57:05 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Pokey78
Britain blames US for failing world's poor

Who told the Brits that it was our job, anyway?

64 posted on 08/26/2002 7:02:57 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Vidalia
Let's ask the Irish what they think of Britain's treatment of the poor, shall we? Do I hear a Modest Proposal?
65 posted on 08/26/2002 7:15:02 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Pokey78
Too bad Gary Montana's posting of this article has been "locked" by one of our moderators.

His comments were excellent where you, Pokey, added nothing.

What are your views of this latest stupidity on the part of our "ally" the Socialist UK?

66 posted on 08/26/2002 8:01:22 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: blam
...host president Thabo Mbeki of South Africa said it was time to scrap a world order based on the "savage principle of the survival of the fittest."

Another believer in "intelligent design".
Sorry, couldn't resist.

67 posted on 08/26/2002 8:45:03 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: Pokey78
When the United States is no longer a superpower, and no longer has the millions to shell out to these people, who will they then turn to whine to fix their self-imposed problems?

Just wondering.....
68 posted on 08/26/2002 8:46:54 AM PDT by abishai
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To: Malesherbes
Every crime-ridden city should - like Johannesburg - have a Police chief named Happy Shutter.

Or Harry "Snapper" Organs.

70 posted on 08/26/2002 9:03:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Pokey78
Britain? Do you mean the new headquarters for the Islamic Jihad movement? Do you mean the country of 500 mosques? Do you mean the country who abandoned their christian heritage for moral relativism and sold off their churches to muslim immigrants? Who cares what these apostates think. Surely not I.
71 posted on 08/26/2002 9:07:12 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: A_perfect_lady
Let's ask the Irish what they think of Britain's treatment of the poor, shall we?

Very good point! As I recall the Brits did'nt give a damn until it the time came to stave off Hitler.

72 posted on 08/26/2002 9:07:32 AM PDT by Allrightnow
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To: Pokey78
It's time America said enough. We've been lining the dictators' pockets for years. If we want to really help, go through the different missionaries and mission organizations in Africa and other Third World countries. They know what's needed and they would get the job done. I never trust anyone's government to do the right thing (even our own). I love the Youth with a Mission and Mercy Ships.
73 posted on 08/26/2002 9:08:54 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: JimSEA
Yep, I think you're right. They hate us because we're successful. They could be too if they'd get rid of their dictators and stop killing all the whites who want to help.
74 posted on 08/26/2002 9:10:34 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Jorge
That's right and they just wasted it. Not our fault.
75 posted on 08/26/2002 9:12:14 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: Marysecretary
You are so right. These Socialists in Europe just can't cope with the success of the US. That's why they blamed us for the tragedy of 9/11, saying we brought it upon ourselves. But we don't need the Europeans anymore, and that's what really makes them crazy. I feel sorry for that guy Tony Blair, who stands alone against the liberal hordes.
76 posted on 08/26/2002 9:17:36 AM PDT by reborn22
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To: MadIvan
Blair is a left wing nightmare, if the cabinet got it's way it wouldn't be a nightmare, it would be a cemetary in ruin!
77 posted on 08/26/2002 9:21:05 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: abishai
When the US no longer has the millions to shell out to these people, who will they then turn to whine to fix their self-imposed problems?

Being that Europes population is on the decline the tax base will fall down too, so these thirdworld people won;t be able to squeeze any money out of them very soon.

78 posted on 08/26/2002 10:21:35 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Pokey78
I suspect NY is going to be in for some violent demonstrations when our beloved President addresses the UN opening ceremonies come September. If only we could convince the UN to depart the US for someplace nice such as Haiti or Zimbabwe.
79 posted on 08/26/2002 11:24:42 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: ccmay
The truth of the matter is this: The world
is envious re the US and its ability to plow
ahead, pushing the envelope of science and technology,
and thus capitalism, so much so that it seeks
to burden the US w/ addtl payments or constraints
placed on its econ engines.

You know the song: To each according to his need,
from each according to his ability.

GET THE US OUT OF THE UN
GET THE UN OUT OF THE US

Mad Vlad
80 posted on 08/26/2002 11:55:29 AM PDT by madvlad
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