Color me... standoffishly intrigued.
Aren't you one of the folks that had one of the 9/11 dreams posted on FR... in May of 2001?
Posted on 08/19/2002 12:20:27 PM PDT by Quix
Edited on 01/06/2003 10:43:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
DEAR ONES,
AND IN VIEW OF THIS SITE'S PREDICTING IT AND THAT IT WOULD SIGNAL SOME OTHER SERIOUS EVENTS, PLEASE PRAYERFULLY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FOUND AT THIS SITE:
http://www.TimothySnodgrass.com/pages/699844/index.htm?gen_time=1029774872442
IF THE REF ABOVE DOESN'T POST RIGHT. SORRY, I am on the road and don't have my html cheat sheet. Anyone who can fix it please do. I don't remember it quite right evidently about how.
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Note: We have received numerous requests for copies of Timothy's latest book, "Earth Changes Approaching". Although this book has not yet been printed, note that as soon as it is printed we plan on sending a free copy to all those who have given to this ministry in 2002. We are currently waiting for the materialization of printing-costs ($2,000 needed for first batch of books).
EXCERPT FROM BOOK
Historically, the largest earthquake to ever be recorded (since the invention of the seismograph in the 1850's) was a 9.5 earthquake in Chile, which took place on May 22, 1960. This South American quake was so powerful that it sent tsunami rippling across the entire Pacific. Over 2,000 people died in the earthquake and tsunami which followed. Fifteen hours after the quake rocked Chile, the tidal wave hit Hilo, Hawaii (61 deaths) ~ 7 hours later, the tsunami reached Japan (over 200 deaths). There were also casualties reported in the Philippines, New Zealand, Samoa, Indonesia, and across the entire Pacific Rim.
The tidal waves triggered by the Chilean earthquake were relatively small, ranging from 10 to 60 feet high, yet had a devastating impact on the half the globe. One of the greatest threats from tsunami comes not from earthquakes themselves, but from underwater landslides which are triggered by the quakes. For example, the largest tsunami ever recorded took place on July 9, 1958 in Lituya Bay, Alaska. The tsunami was recorded as being 1,720 feet high (530 meters), yet the earthquake which triggered it was only 8.3 on the Richter Scale.
Although this Alaskan tidal wave was enormous, the underwater area involved in the landslide was relatively small, and the tsunami only affected Lituya Bay, which in 1958 was only inhabited by moose, bears, and a few fisherman and hunters. Thus, the loss of life was minimal. But this event was a turning point for the way scientists viewed the threat from undersea landslides.
After 1958, a study of underwater chasms and valleys became a priority of seismologist, so that vulnerable areas could be mapped and identified. One of the greatest landslide threats discovered lies off the coast of Oregon, near the Cascadia Subduction Zone. This undersea chasm is so expansive that it makes the Grand Canyon look like a gopher hole. A major earthquake occurs along the Cascadia Subduction Zone approximately every 300 years, and the area is now overdue for a major event (the last one occurred exactly 302 years ago in 1700 AD, which triggered tsunami that wiped out several Indian tribes in Oregon).
Alaska has had its share of major earthquakes. Six years after the 8.3 Lituya Bay earthquake, another mammoth earthquake took place in Alaska on March 27, 1964. The Prince William Sound Earthquake measured 9.2 on the Ricther Scale, and is the 2nd largest earthquake ever recorded. The tsunami from this quake, although small compared to Lituya Bay, killed over 110 people from Alaska to Crescent City, California.
Only four earthquakes have been recorded in history as exceeding 9.0 on the Ricther Scale ~ 2 of these quakes were located in Alaska. On March 9, 1957, the third largest earthquake recorded in history took place in the Andreanof Islands, Alaska. This 9.1 earthquake was a turning point in the study of volcanoes, proving that major earthquakes can indeed awaken volcanoes that have been sleeping for generations.
At exactly 2:22 in the afternoon, as the 9.1 earthquake sent tidal waves crashing across the Andreanof Islands, Mount Vsevidof violently erupted on Umnak Island (a volcano had been dormant for over 200 years). The connection between major earthquakes and volcanic eruptions would be further established 3 years later in 1960, when a chain of dormant volcanoes violently erupted in Chile during the unprecedented 9.5 earthquake.
Although all of the above earthquakes were large, none can compare to the New Madrid, Missouri quakes, which occurred during the winter of 1811 - 1812. This series of quakes lasted for 5 months, and took place long before the seismograph was invented. If you compare this series of quakes to the 9.5 Chilean quake (which lasted for 3 weeks), the New Madrid earthquake would have to have been comparatively much larger (lasting 5 months).
The magnitude of the New Madrid earthquakes had to be truly enormous. In 1964, the Prince Williams Sound earthquake (9.2) could only be felt as far away as Seattle, Washington. But 18 of the New Madrid earthquakes rang church bells as far away as Boston, Massachusettes, and could be felt across the entire eastern half of the United States.
Over 150,000 acres of forest were destroyed, new lakes were formed, and tsunami crashed along the shores of the Mississippi River, leaving a graveyard of destroyed boats and debris. Witnesses reported that the entire river appeared to be flowing backwards during 5 of the largest quakes. Although there were roughly 2,000 quakes during a 5-month period, the five BIG quakes occurred between December 16, 1811, and February 7, 1812. The first 2 of the 5 big quakes were epicentered in Arkansas, both occurring on the same day (December 16th).
The third earthquake was epincentered in New Madrid, Missouri (January 23, 1812). The fourth and fifth quakes occurred in New Madrid on February 7, and were the largest of the series. It was these two quakes that destroyed the city of New Madrid, and toppled houses as far away as St. Louis. (Note: Although some sources report that there were three large quakes, technically there were 5 mega-quakes [2 on 12/16/11, 1 on 1/23/12, and another 2 on 2/7/12].
The USGS, although conservatively estimating the New Madrid quakes to be in the 8-point range, have recently published a report indicating that 5 of the earthquakes had to be at least 2 to 3 times large than the Prince Edward Sound earthquake, which measured 9.2 on the Richter Scale.
On November 20, 2001, I was given a detailed prophetic vision of another series of quakes which will soon shake the United States Midwest. The coming quakes will exceed the magnitudes of the previous New Madrid quakes of 1811 - 1812, and will result in significant earth changes along several areas of the Central United States.
In Arkansas and Missouri, the earth changes that began 191 years ago during the New Madrid quakes will reach maturation. Along the New Madrid fault line and several other fault lines which wind there way up to the Great Lakes, there will be a sudden drop of elevation.
The size of the Great Lakes will decrease, as water drains into the newly formed rift and cascades southward into the Gulf of Mexico. Within less than a day, a new gulf will appear in the United States. North America will be literally divided in half from east to west. The majority of changes will take place within 24 hours, but aftershocks from the quake will continue to rattle the region for 7 months.
The force of the water cascading from north to south during the birthing of the initial rift will lay the foundations for diverse topography and landscapes along the newly birthed shoreline. Inland Tsunami And Displacements Of Rivers And Lakes
Prior to 1811, tsunami were believed to be only an ocean phenomen. But on December 16, 1811, a new precedent was set for tidal waves. When an earthquake approaches or exceeds 9.0 on the Richter Scale, earth changes are imminent. These changes can be anywhere from minor to catastrophic, depending upon the geology and terrain of the earth.
If a body of water happens to be near the epicenter, one of two things can happen: 1) The quake will generate tsunami, or 2) The body of water will be displaced, and shift to another location. During the New Madrid quakes of 1811 - 1812, fortunately the course of the entire Mississippii river did not change, but tsunami along the river destroyed many boats docked along the shore, and overwhelmed many smaller vessels that were further out in the river. As fissures opened and closed below the surface, the agitated water gave the illusion that the river was flowing backwards.
During major earthquakes, the elevation of land rises and falls. The greatest earth changes occur not when the land is thrown upwards, but when it collapses. In Alaska, during the Prince Edward Sound earthquake, many fertile valleys and farmlands became transformed into water-filled marshes overnight, as underground water reserves filled large portions of land that collapsed. In New Madrid, the shaking was so intense that land waves could be seen rippling across the face of the earth. The elevation of the earth rose and fell over an area of 78,000 - 129,000 square kilometers, extending from Cairo, Illinois, to Memphis, Tennessee, and from Crowleys Ridge, Arkansas, to Chickasaw Bluffs, Tennessee. Many new lakes were formed, including Lake St. Francis in eastern Arkansas, which is 64 kilometers long by 1 kilometer wide.
The future map of the Gulf of the North America, which will extend from the Great Lakes in the north, to the Gulf of Mexico in the south, is not without precedent in earth history. The Gulf of California, which runs along the San Andreas Fault, was once connected to Mexico. But at one point the region violently collapsed into an eternal blue abyss, known today by Mexico as the Sea of Cortez.
The northern end of the Gulf of California is very shallow (no place greater than 600 feet deep), then gradually merges into the marshlands of the delta (similar to the marshes created overnight by the Alaskan earthquake of 1964).
The future Gulf of North America will have at least 3 to 4 times the mass of the Gulf of California. The tsunami triggered from the drainage of the Great Lakes will move southward at a catastrophic rate, engulfing entire cities in its path as it winds its way south into the crystal blue waters of the Gulf of Mexico.
To the northeast of the Great Lakes in Canada, newly formed channels will connect the Gulf to the Atlantic Ocean. Although this inland tsunami will indeed be large, it will be small compared to the tidal waves generated by the earth changes throughout the Pacific Ring of Fire.
Copyright Timothy Snodgrass 2002, All Rights Reserved. Reproduction and distribution is strictly prohibited without prior permission. For a list of sources and documentation on above data, refer to Timothy's upcoming book Earth Changes Approaching.
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I WOULD ADD, PROPHETIC TYPES EVEN OF SHAMMAN, NEW AGE ETC. TYPES HAVE "SEEN" SIMILAR EARTH CHANGES OCCRING IN OUR TIME FRAME ALONG THE CENTRAL U.S. It almost seems as though God has tried every channel to warn us.
I didn't post it. I'll put it together in a little different format when I get a chance. Not too much time to freep today.
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"On Sunday morning, August 25, I was taken in the Spirit and saw three large angels with flaming swords, who will soon fly over the continents of North and South America. A 9.0+ earthquake is about to occur, prior to the conclusion of 2002. These angels have the power to deflect the coming great quakes from the continents of North and South America to another part of the world where less damage would be incurred, or to lift their swords over the land in judgment. Many will mock this warning from the Holy Spirit, as in the days of Noah before the Great Flood. Judgment is being released in the earth, and we are now living in the twilight hours of history. It is not a time to fear, but a time to prepare and to bring your household into the Ark. "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved - you and your household." (Twin Polynesian Quake Report to be posted shortly.)" Source
Evidently you need to take in less spirit and switch to beer or something less strong. Yikes! Where exactly in the world would a 9.0+ earthquake cause less damage? And since when did biblical prophesies start including the Richter scale?
There is no out in post 235 (or see link here: Elijah Visions ) the man was shown angels standing at the four corners of America to judge it and, as we see in his humble artwork, destroy it. That man is more definite about his dreams and visions than Tim Snodgrass.
>Needless to say, we need to pray this doesn't happen.
That is actually not the true biblical response. Jonah spoke to Ninevah and said destruction would occur unless it repented. It repented from the top down. So repentance is the first order of the day, not trying to change G~d's mind. He sent angels to get Lot and his wife and daughters out. He didn't send them to pray that Sodom would not be destroyed or to vote for Congressmen to take up a vote which always melts down to the lowest common denominator and opposes G~d.
Christianity that says we can change G~d's mind rather than lining up with His will is gross error. He rules and when we come to understanding the depth of "Whom do you say that I am?" then we will examine ourselves, humble our hearts, depart from inquity, put an axe to all sin in our lives and purifiy our souls by obeying the truth through the Spirit. The only option is to harden one's heart and die in the wilderness as an unbeliever.
Dan 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Dan 4:34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
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In a different prophecy a few years ago (website now shut down), the L~rd said this:
"... My servants will be protected, but only as many as hear and heed this message. You are to protect them and to provide them with a home, and make them to hear this message, they themselves will decide what to do with it. Do not use persuasive words but only issue statements of fact for them to decide on for themselves. Do not try to convince them of this fact, only tell them what I have told you and if they are mine they will hear and act on the message. If they are not my servants but rebel against it they are doomed to destruction with the rest of this evil land. ..."
Color me... standoffishly intrigued.
Aren't you one of the folks that had one of the 9/11 dreams posted on FR... in May of 2001?
ROFL!
THE VISION2sheep: The Spirit of the L~rd can give people dreams and visions and the individual does not necessarily know what they mean. Daniel prayed and fasted at great length for interpretation. In many instances people go ahead and put their own interpretation on their dream or vision which is not what the L~rd intended. In other words, the dream is from the L~rd but the interpretation could be from the flesh. This may be such a case (see the continuation). Read and pray about it and decide for yourself.On January 1, 2002, I awoke from a vision of seismic shock waves rippling across the globe, triggered by a great earthquake, magnitude 9.0 or greater. I was told by the Holy Spirit that this quake would occur after the "2nd Polynesian Quake". Within less than 24-hours of the vision, a 7.3 earthquake shook the Vanuatu Islands on January 2. But the Twin Polynesian quakes would not occur until eight months later, on August 19, 2002, in an isolated area of the Pacific between Fiji and Tonga. After the vision was originally published in January, 2002, we received numerous letters suggesting that the January 1 Vanuatu earthquake may have NOT been the "1st Polynesian Quake" which Holy Spirit referred to -- whereas the Vanuatu Islands are technically in Melanesia, not Polynesia.
On August 19, all questions and speculation were put to rest, when two mega Polynesian quakes took place at a phenomenal depth of 587 km and 694 km, measuring 7.6 and 7.7. Because of the great depth of the quakes, no tsunami warnings were posted in the Pacific. But the earthquakes were strong enough to trigger volcanic activity as far away as Japan. On Suwanose-jima Island, two explosive eruptions occurred near the village of Toshima. (Interestingly, the largest historical eruptions on Suwanose-jima occurred in 1813-1814 -- just after the Great New Madrid quakes of 1811-1812. These eruptions were so powerful that the island became uninhabitable for 70-years.)
According to the vision on January 1, the location of the coming great quake is not sealed in stone, but short of angelic intervention will occur on the West Coast of North America. The key to deflecting the epicenter from the United States of America is INTERCESSION for the PRESIDENT of the United States, that he would make the right decisions in the days ahead concerning Israel. Only America's posture on Israel can restore the angelic covering necessary to shield North America from this event, and deflect the quake to another location. This particular quake has nothing to do with the "New Madrid Quake" discussed in previous writings, but could destabilize the region and lead to a major seismic shift in the Central United States within a short period of time (similar to the 1813-1814 Suwanose-jima eruptions, which took place 1 to 2 years after the original Great New Madrid quakes approximately 90-years ago.)
On the morning of August 19 -- just prior to the Twin Polynesian Quakes -- I received another warning of the approaching mega-quake through a vivid dream: Standing in San Bernardino, California, the ground beneath me began to shake, and as I looked towards the east, large portions of the San Gabriel Mountains began to collapse, as rockslides began to violently tumble down the slopes. Thousands of people in San Bernardino came running out of their offices and homes, watching the mountains as boulders the size of cars were thundering down onto the city below.
Shortly after the dream, I awoke to discover that the Twin Polynesian Quakes had just occurred. Later that evening, my wife and I went outside, where we witnessed a spectacular moon and cloud formation. Over the moon, five long clouds formed into the shape of a HAND, perfectly shaped with all the fingers and thumb. Then the wind transformed the clouds from fingers into STRIPES, and the American Flag began to clearly form. Within minutes, the stripes of the American flag transformed into the jagged lines of a RICHTER SCALE, as it would look in the middle of a large earthquake. Then the clouds began to artistically curve into the appearance of TIDAL WAVES. All of this happened within a space of less than 10 minutes.
Six days later - on Sunday, August 25 - I was taken in the Spirit and saw three large angels with flaming swords, who will soon fly over the continents of North and South America. We have been warned that a 9.0+ earthquake is about to occur, prior to the conclusion of 2002. These angels have the power to deflect the coming quake from the continents of North and South America to another part of the world where less damage would be incurred, or to lift their swords over the land in judgment. Many will mock this warning from the Holy Spirit, as in the days of Noah before the Great Flood. Judgment is being released in the earth, and we are now living in the twilight hours of history. It is not a time to fear, but a time to prepare and to bring your household into the Ark. "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved - you and your household." ... source and his interpretations continued here
And another came 3 days prior to the crash flight 587. The dream was vivid and unusual for me. I was out in an unfamilar park like area near the water with adults and kids and we were having fun, when I looked up and noticed a rocket or missle heading into the ground over the trees. It hit with a large boom and then someone mentioned the military. I woke up, shaking in the middle of the night full of fear and I heard a voice that simply said 'remember this dream' It took me a while to go back to sleep. In the morning I thought little of it. Went about my weekend and such and pretty much forgot about it. I usually don't remember much about my dreams if I remember anything at all.
Then the 587 crash happened, on Veterans day, (military reference, people not at work, kids at the park...) I didn't tie it to my dream until a news report came in saying it had sheered the tail and the wing off (at the right angle it could look like a rocket/missle). I have never had this type of concern from a dream before. Shaken and with a chilling unease as things clicked and became clearer, I turned to my mothers old bible and with mine eyes closed I randomly opened to a page and placed a finger on this:
Job 4:12 Now a thing was secretly brought to me, and mine ear received a little thereof. 13 In thoughts from the visions of the night, when deep sleep falleth on men, 14 Fear came upon me, and trembling, which made all my bones to shake. 15 Then a spirit passed before my face; the hair of my flesh stood up: 16 It stood still, but I could not discern the form thereof: an image was before mine eyes, there was silence, and I heard a voice, saying, 17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
I continued to shake as I read on and then later I am not sure why I cyptically posted the other part of the scripture here...
I thought this fits here in this discussion of dreams...
Thanks for sharing that and your dream of the airplane. Those are typical of dreams others have had and just about how much information may be given by the L~rd initially. They are just one of the ways the L~rd shows people things. They will heighten your awareness and encourage you to ask Him for more information.
Dreams can be pieces of a puzzle which the Lord gives for us to figure out. Some want the whole journey ahead to be broad, easy and lit with Hollywood lighting and directions for every move, but that is not His way. He says the true way is narrow, difficult, and that the Word is "a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Ps 119:105. That is a little light and a constant continuing search for Him and His truth on the way.
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