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15 Million Taken From NYC Municipal Credit Union ATMs After 9-11 Computer Failure
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Posted on 08/06/2002 6:45:10 AM PDT by Retired Chemist

NEW YORK - Fifteen million dollars was looted from the city's Municipal Credit Union by its own members - including city employees, health care professionals and education workers - when a computer failure caused by the collapse of the World Trade Center allowed virtually unlimited access to money in automated teller machines, prosecutors said Monday. Sixty-six people who withdrew $7,500 or more beyond what was in their accounts have been arrested and face felony charges of grand larceny, and 35 are being sought for arrest, said Robert M. Morgenthau, the Manhattan district attorney.

In all, he said, about 4,000 people are being investigated.

A frenzy of wrongful withdrawals began almost immediately after the terrorist attacks, when the credit union, which has headquarters on Cortlandt Street near ground zero, lost its computer link to the New York Cash Exchange, a network of automated teller machines.

The network, which is the largest in the Northeast and processes ATM transactions, had no way to access the credit union accounts to ensure there were sufficient funds to cover withdrawals.

Rather than shut down its entire ATM operation and believing it was helping its 300,000 members during a traumatic time, the union continued to allow withdrawals without knowing whether those making the withdrawals had the money in their accounts to cover them.

``We did this at a time of crisis in the city because many of our members are firemen, policemen, and we felt at the time it was a necessary step for us to take to help settle down the city,'' said Thomas Siciliano, the general counsel of the Municipal Credit Union.

``We did not realize on the first day that there would be this kind of loss.''


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1 posted on 08/06/2002 6:45:10 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Retired Chemist; dighton; aculeus; general_re
Rather than shut down its entire ATM operation and believing it was helping its 300,000 members during a traumatic time, the union continued to allow withdrawals without knowing whether those making the withdrawals had the money in their accounts to cover them.

No good deed goes unpunished. Very disturbing story.

2 posted on 08/06/2002 6:51:02 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Retired Chemist
It always amazes me when I hear about stories like this. These people have to KNOW that they are going to get caught sooner or later. I mean if I go to a ATM machine and put in my ATM card for $100 and get $10,000 I'm going to walk right into the bank, hand them $9,900 and tell them their machine is messed up. It's not really even a matter of honesty, I know the bank would have all my information from my card as well as my photo from that little camera on the ATM machine, so what would I gain by taking off with the money. It's like robbing a bank and leaving your drivers license on the counter.
3 posted on 08/06/2002 6:57:01 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
. . . people have to KNOW that they are going to get caught sooner or later.

Remember -- this is New York City we're talking about. Many of the perps in this case probably don't even know how to spell "ATM."

4 posted on 08/06/2002 7:03:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Retired Chemist; JeanS; joanie-f; TPartyType; brityank
From the article:
"Fifteen million dollars was looted from the city's Municipal Credit Union by its own members - including city employees, health care professionals and education workers - when a computer failure caused by the collapse of the World Trade Center allowed virtually unlimited access to money in automated teller machines ... Sixty-six people who withdrew $7,500 or more beyond what was in their accounts have been arrested ... and 35 are being sought for arrest ... "

From Tom Ridge, President's Bush's top man at the HomeLand Security Operation in Washington, DC, in an article at The Washington Times, August 1, 2002:

Department of Hollow Security? (scroll down to paragraph no. 7)

 " ... The vast majority of federal employees are capable, dedicated public servants. ... "

Sure. The article above, may as well have read:

from the Federal Credit Union by its own members - including government employees, federal health care professionals and federal public education workers, members of the N.E.A. -

5 posted on 08/06/2002 7:08:19 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: apillar
It's like robbing a bank and leaving your drivers license on the counter.

It worked for years for Congressmen.

6 posted on 08/06/2002 7:14:44 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Retired Chemist
The gentleman was very, very naive.
7 posted on 08/06/2002 7:17:14 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: First_Salute
See also: "For many federal workers, job just a paycheck" from USA Today"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/2002/06/27/ncguest2.htm.htm

The idea of dedicated public servants predates predatory unions, hyper-lobbying, me-first attitudes, ridiculous benefits packages and dirty campaign contribution in exchange for raises.

The deal used to be that by taking a public job employees were trading high earnings potential for job security. Nowadays even the comically incompetent not only have job security, but also expensive retirement plans, copious vacation days, relaxed work requirements and industry competitive wages (for lower end jobs).

Is it any surprise that these people fail us, their employers, every day?
8 posted on 08/06/2002 7:17:30 AM PDT by Fixit
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To: Orual; dighton; aculeus
No good deed goes unpunished.

Yes, but fortunately, time wounds all heels...

Sixty-six people who withdrew $7,500 or more beyond what was in their accounts have been arrested and face felony charges of grand larceny, and 35 are being sought for arrest, said Robert M. Morgenthau, the Manhattan district attorney.

9 posted on 08/06/2002 7:20:05 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Fixit; Alamo-Girl; JeanS; Stand Watch Listen
I fixed that link for ya (snippets from the article):
For many federal workers, job just a paycheck

by Paul C. Light

Americans who read the headlines coming out of Washington this past year must be wondering whether the federal government can pound sand into a hole, let alone restore homeland security or win the war on terrorism.

... In a Brookings Institution Center for Public Service poll that we are releasing Thursday [June 27th], two-thirds of the federal employees interviewed this spring said they took their job for its security, pay and benefits &emdash; not the chance to help people, make a difference or accomplish something worthwhile. Two out of five said they come into work solely for the paycheck, while fewer than one in 20 said they show up to help the public. (Postal, military and employees of quasi-government agencies weren't polled.)

... how many federal employees see their work. More than half say their organizations do not do a good job of disciplining poor performers, and almost as many say that there are too many layers of management in their agencies.

The effect of layering is clear. As FBI whistleblower Coleen Rowley told a Senate committee, "Like the (plant in the) Little Shop of Horrors movie, the bureaucracy just keeps saying, 'Feed me, feed me.' " The problem in preventing terrorist attacks is not a lack of information, for example. Rather, it is getting past the childhood game of telephone that the bureaucracy plays as intelligence rises through layer upon layer of interpreters ...

Paul C. Light is vice president and director of governmental studies at the Brookings Institution.


10 posted on 08/06/2002 8:02:18 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Retired Chemist
Also on Yahoo

Workers Accused of Credit Union Theft

Tue Aug 6, 2:11 AM ET

By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - In one of the largest fraud cases resulting from the terrorist attacks, thousands of people are accused of using ATMs to steal $15 million from a municipal employees' credit union whose computer security system was damaged on Sept. 11.

Sixty-six people have been arrested and 35 more were being sought in the scheme, authorities said Monday.

District Attorney Robert Morgenthau said the suspects found a way to repeatedly withdraw up to $500 a day from ATMs — even if their accounts at the Municipal Credit Union couldn't cover it.

The problem stems from Sept. 11, when the attack on the World Trade Center damaged a nearby building housing the credit union's computer system.

Credit union officials soon realized they could not properly monitor the computer network that handles automated teller transactions. But they decided to allow withdrawals without the normal banking safeguards so they would not offend members affected by the tragedy.

"This is a prime example of no good deed goes unpunished," Morgenthau said.

"People took advantage." He said as many as 4,000 people manipulated the system to overdraw their bank accounts by at least $1,000. Of that group, more than 540 credit union members exceeded their balances by more than $5,000.

According to authorities, a 54-year-old nurse made 54 cash withdrawals from Sept. 18 to the end of October, leaving her with a negative balance of $18,111.

A Housing Authority employee allegedly made dozens of withdrawals, using his credit union card to make purchases at a barbecue restaurant, a liquor store and a motel. A school safety officer allegedly made 80 withdrawals in a five-week span, leaving her account more than $11,000 in debt.

The computer problem was fixed in November, and investigators began tracing the illicit withdrawals. Authorities said a handful of people, when confronted about the transactions, agreed to take out loans to pay the money back.

Those who "took the least amount" will be able to pay back the credit union, Morgenthau said.

Since Sept. 11, local and federal prosecutors have already charged more than 90 people on a variety of fraud counts, many involving false claims for assistance. No case has involved as many people as the one announced Monday.

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Wonder how many of these thieves were members of the Teachers Unions?

My favorite: A Housing Authority employee allegedly made dozens of withdrawals, using his credit union card to make purchases at a barbecue restaurant, a liquor store and a motel.

DA Morgenthau will be the least of this guy's problems when his wife finds out!

11 posted on 08/06/2002 8:54:13 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: First_Salute; Orual; general_re; dighton
... two-thirds of the federal employees interviewed this spring said they took their job for its security, pay and benefits &emdash; not the chance to help people ...

This is true. My neighbor, who works for the post office, has loads of emdash in his garage.

12 posted on 08/06/2002 10:06:41 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: First_Salute
Up until I read this account, there was just one group of New Yorkers whose immediate reactions to the events on the morning of 9/11 left me scratching my head. FReeper Tawiskaro mentioned them in passing in his essay ‘I Was There – A Glimpse of Hell’:

Eventually I reached Broadway and made my way to 18th Street or 20th, trying telephones along the way. The streets were lined with people. Some were still shopping, despite the morning’s events.

I was stunned upon reading that. That some people were still going on about their morning activities (and shopping, of all things), while the environment all around them was filled with violent death, destruction, and utter chaos.

Now it appears that other New Yorkers (city employees, health care professionals and education workers) were looting their own credit union as their city was in the midst of an unprecedented terrorist attack, and thousands of innocents were being incinerated, or leaping to their deaths to avoid the heat and flames.

Healthcare professionals and education workers. People in whose hands we place our sick, and our children. People for whom the concept of compassion once held special significance. The four thousand of them who manipulated the system, just a short distance from where the Twin Towers were burning, give new meaning to the phrase the dregs of society.

I’d like to airlift them all to a deserted island, where they would spend the rest of their days making do with whatever they can subsist on there. Maybe a small portion of them might learn to comprehend the real worth of paper money (and that which it can buy) vs. character and the I am my brother’s keeper concept.

Or maybe not. Redemption requires conscience.

13 posted on 08/07/2002 3:25:51 PM PDT by joanie-f
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To: joanie-f
They saw in a "disaster flick," where there's looting; could'a been a Hollywood production, or could'a been a post-Rodney King Cops Trial production.

I think it goes something like: He who loots first, loots most.

And other Harvard ethicisms.

14 posted on 08/07/2002 7:17:29 PM PDT by First_Salute
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