Senators to pursue exemptions for tree thinning

Washington Times ^ | 8/02/02 | Audrey Hudson

[kattracks]

Republican and Democratic senators yesterday said they will aggressively pursue legislation to allow the thinning of trees in forests threatened by catastrophic wildfires.

The measure would allow exemptions from environmental laws and court appeals and is modeled after a spending-bill amendment attached by Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle for the Democrat's home state of South Dakota.

[justshe]

Good, good, good!

But you still HAVE to wonder what Daschle promised to the Sierra Club, etc, in South Dakota to achieve HIS local consensus.

[Nitro]

Now if they could just wrap their self-serving, phoney-bolgna, pork-barrel minds around...

Free Thinking!!

[Steely Tom]

Hey Puff!

Great move, Puff! Brilliant!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

(steely)

[brat]

LOL I don't think Li'l Tommy Daschle knew what he started! Every state will now be asking for the "Daschle Exemption!" We seriously need it out West. Its dry normally, but we have been in drought conditions for a couple of years now. Fallen trees don't rot here...they merely turn into match sticks.

[goldstategop]

Hey Tommy Daschund great idea! How give us OUR exemptions, too! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

[gulfcoast6]

Looks like little tommy d. opened a can of worms, bet he didn't expect this to happen.

[Free the USA]

Index Bump

[madfly]

ping

[E.G.C.]

We will see what happens here, but I can tell you from my observation of recent events in the Senate that we as a nation have gone from a rule of law to a rule of cronyism.

I for one am not very proud of our U.S. Senate.

[TigersEye]

"Precedence was established when the majority leader — and we think he did a great job — suggested a way for his forest to be immune from some of the processes that take an inordinate amount of time," said Sen. Pete V. Domenici, New Mexico Republican.

Bwahahahaaaa!

[TigersEye]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, California Democrat, said problems leading to this summer's deadly wildfires were not created overnight and tree thinning must begin quickly.

Double bwahaha!

Headline:

Wildfires put Feinstein in hot Seat.
Re-election chances dim for Dim.

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

"I for one am not very proud of our U.S. Senate."

E.G.C., There's at least two of US. Peace and love, George.

[madfly]

EMAIL FROM JOHN STOSSEL;

> This Friday's "Give Me A Break" about the "missing" lynx.  
> The Canada lynx is getting some people very excited. An environmental
> group burned down a ski lodge in Vail because they thought it might
> threaten the lynx.
> There are tens of thousands of lynx throughout North America, but because
> the bureaucrats weren't sure there were any in southern Washington
> state-they commissioned a million dollar study to find out. 
> They placed pieces of carpet soaked with a catnip mixture on trees hoping
> the lynx would then rub up against them and leave some fur. Sure
> enough--samples the biologists sent to the lab contained hairs from a
> Canada lynx!  
> This is a frightening prospect for people who like using the land.
> Finding a threatened species can set in motion a series of events that can
> wreck your life if you're a rancher or farmer or just someone who wants to
> drive in the woods. It's a reason lots of people in southern Washington
> are scared of the government's environmental police. 
>  As land rights activist Mike Paulson put it, "We basically say if you
> have an endangered species in your area, we are going to take your
> livelihood away, we're going to destroy your communities, and we're going
> to make it very difficult for your families to survive."
> That didn't happen this time because it turned out the government's
> biologist were caught cheating!  The lynx hair sent to the lab came from a
> lynx that lives in a cage,   miles away from where the biologists claimed
> they found the hair. How could this happen?
> Jim Beers, a Fish and Wildlife biologist for 31 years, says his agency
> changed from promoting science to pushing what some believe is fanatical
> environmentalism. Now he says the agency is " staffed with environmental
> radical activists" who will twist facts until they get the results they
> want; and what they really want...is to ban people from forests.  "Once
> you establish that there are any lynx in the area, ...the areas in between
> suddenly become very urgent to not allow road to be built, not allow the
> ski slopes to come in... not allow grazing... ultimately, not to let you
> or I drive our wives and kids in for a picnic."
> The biologists do have an explanation; they weren't trying to cheat, they
> say, they were just testing the labs to make sure they could actually
> identify lynx fur.  Beers replies:  "That's the same as you telling me
> that you caught them walking out of the bank with money and they said oh,
> we were just seeing if the system works here, we were going to return it
> tomorrow."
> Were the biologists fired for cheating?  No.  How often do governments
> fire anyone?  They were "verbally counseled," but they are still on the
> job.  It makes me wonder what other parts of their science we don't know
> the truth about.
> If we now have the extremists giving orders with the power of government,
> everyone's freedom is at risk. 
> Give me a break.
>
>
> 
>

[Grampa Dave]

This is the latest thread on the big fire in SW Oregon. (Link to Newest Data on SW Oregon Fire)

[WaterDragon]

The key to Daschle's amendment, which so many of you have noted, is protection from lawsuits by the envirowhackos. Without that part of the amendment, any money appropriated for tree thinning and cleaning debris off the forest floor is headed for the coffers of the enviros' trial attorneys.

[Grampa Dave]

Or is this just a trick to deceive his voters, as Carry pointed out to you on another thread.

To me the good thing is that this being talked about at the Senate level, and it is getting some large media coverage.

It is up to us to ensure that the conservatives who are closet greens, wake up and realize how dangerous the greens are to America/Americans. Then we need to work on the moderates, whom still have a brain.

[justshe]

At LEAST we have some of the Dems on record now...Feinstein's comments floored me.

[Grampa Dave]

We/I refer to her as ChiFi Frankenstein.

It is obviously that the rat senators have taken a lot of focus group interviews about how the public feels about these wildfires.

They know that this is a losing stand/link just like the elimination of one nation under God.

However, they depend on the Greens for votes, campaign donations and the Green Laundry for money for their reelections, so they will never PO their Green Buddies.

We can spread the word and get a lot of conservatives and moderates to break away from supporting the greens. Then we make some of greens mad, and they then vote for the green candidates. Any vote for a green candidate is one less Rat vote this November.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!