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To: WyldKard
"Then please point out the section of the Constitution to me that grants the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT the power to conduct a "War on Drugs". Or a "War on Poverty". or a "War on Guns". Please point out the section to me that usurps the 10th Amendment, and the States rights to decide these issues for their individual selves?"

I can't point it out, because you're correct on the 10th Amendment. But here's one for you: please point out the part of the Constitution that restricts the states from passing sodomy laws, anti-prostitution laws, anti-drug laws, even anti-atheist laws.

I mean, slavery was Constitutional, wasn't it? The states, under the Constitution that you would "live and die for", can ban or allow whatever they wish.

18 posted on 07/31/2002 10:12:53 AM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
I can't point it out, because you're correct on the 10th Amendment. But here's one for you: please point out the part of the Constitution that restricts the states from passing sodomy laws, anti-prostitution laws, anti-drug laws, even anti-atheist laws.

Unless the Federal Government has a power deligated to it by the Constitution, it is assumed those powers are held by the States. So yes, States are perfectly correct in passing anti-sodomy laws, anti-prostitution laws, etc. I think such laws are folly, but I would rather see the issue handled on a State by State basis, as was the intent of the Founding Fathers, than see the FedGov overstep its bounds.

I mean, slavery was Constitutional, wasn't it? The states, under the Constitution that you would "live and die for", can ban or allow whatever they wish.

It wasn't UnConstitutional, perse. At least, not until the various Amendments outlawing slavery were passed. While I think slavery was abhorant, I am afraid I must agree with what the South was trying to do when it wanted to break away from the Union.

And now you are trying to change the topic. I've been a tremendous supportive of States rights. Unfortunately, most Conservatives-in-Socialist-Clothing think the Federal Government is chief in all things, and that States Rights are a myth.

So let me ask you: Do you think the Federal Government has the power to wage a War on Drugs? Do you think the War on Drugs should continue as is, or should the matter be left up to the States?
20 posted on 07/31/2002 10:17:47 AM PDT by WyldKard
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To: HumanaeVitae
"Then please point out the section of the Constitution to me that grants the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT the power to conduct a "War on Drugs". Or a "War on Poverty". or a "War on Guns". Please point out the section to me that usurps the 10th Amendment, and the States rights to decide these issues for their individual selves?"
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I can't point it out, because you're correct on the 10th Amendment.

You believe that states can violate the 2nd amendment, and prohibit the possession of arms?

But here's one for you: please point out the part of the Constitution that restricts the states from passing sodomy laws, anti-prostitution laws, anti-drug laws, even anti-atheist laws.

The 14th. It requires:
"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."
IE -- Guns are property, & prohibitions on their possession are not due process.

I mean, slavery was Constitutional, wasn't it?

Special case, addressed in Art I, Sec 9. - And you know it.

The states, under the Constitution that you would "live and die for", can ban or allow whatever they wish.

Not true under the constitution, and you SHOULD know that. Curious that you don't.
Why do you reject your own inalienable rights?

86 posted on 08/02/2002 7:58:08 PM PDT by tpaine
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