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Biden backs letting soldiers arrest civilians
Washington Times ^ | 7/22/02 | Joyce Howard Price

Posted on 07/21/2002 10:54:45 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:55:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., Delaware Democrat, yesterday strongly endorsed giving soldiers the power to arrest American civilians.

Interviewed yesterday on "Fox News Sunday," Mr. Biden, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prevents the military from exercising police powers in this country, should be re-examined and "has to be amended."


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; biden; possecomitatus
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1 posted on 07/21/2002 10:54:45 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
DANGER!

When the Army gains arrest powers in peacetime , this nation ceases to be a fre country.

History is full of examples.

2 posted on 07/21/2002 10:59:03 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: Texasforever
The Biden proposal and the Ridge "knockdown" — not necessarily a "knockout" — may have been coordinated and calculated to measure public reaction. Mr. Ridge grew more emphatic later in the day in his view that military authorities should not have such powers of arrest over civilians.

I'll be sending my resume to The Washington Times in the morning. Right after I make one up.

3 posted on 07/21/2002 10:59:05 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
I'll be sending my resume to The Washington Times in the morning. Right after I make one up.

LOL

4 posted on 07/21/2002 11:00:18 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: kattracks
What an a$$. Its not ok for military to arrest illegals crossing the borders, no, it is WRONG, but citizens? Screw 'em, lock em up. Amazing...JFK
5 posted on 07/21/2002 11:00:52 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER
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To: kattracks
Whoa, Trigger!

Joe Biden actually has a thought in his newly arranged top-soiled head that may help?

Whoa, Trigger!

The doors must be slowly closing, and the cleaning of the house is in preparatory staging...?

Dare those of us who have been saying so for years wish?

6 posted on 07/21/2002 11:08:05 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: BADROTOFINGER
We do not need an army on the border or within to police our nation. The problem with the INS is that it is underfunded and is doing all it can to help illegals get into the country not keep them out.

Give the INS 10,000 more officers and they can deal with the problem themselfs if they have the correct leadership that stopped putting water tanks in deserts.

Let the brave americans in our armed forces do their job of blowing things up and killing without useing them as a quick answer to our ills.
7 posted on 07/21/2002 11:09:00 PM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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To: Brush_Your_Teeth
The INS hasn't a clue about what is going on.

It is like the Environmental Protection Agency a few years ago having to evacuate their own building, from toxic fume buildup in their own building for several years.

The E.P.A. still will not release publically the information on how many people died from that incident.
9 posted on 07/21/2002 11:33:11 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Brush_Your_Teeth
We do not need an army on the border or within to police our nation. The problem with the INS is that it is underfunded and is doing all it can to help illegals get into the country not keep them out.

Give the INS 10,000 more officers and they can deal with the problem themselfs if they have the correct leadership that stopped putting water tanks in deserts.

Let the brave americans in our armed forces do their job of blowing things up and killing without useing them as a quick answer to our ills.

For the record, I dont think that it is the military's job to arrest citizens, I thought I made that clear but maybe I didnt. It is our military's job to defend our borders.

As far as the INS getting better leadership, dont hold your breath. As is obvious, our military is not 'blowing things up and killing' right now, a great deal of them are standing between warring factions and essentially being human targets for foreigners who are embittered by our interference. Obviously, we need better leadership all the way around. Bring them home. Put them on our borders. Let the Euroweenies solve their own problems...JFK

10 posted on 07/21/2002 11:58:37 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER
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To: hoosierham
This is what the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution is all about.
12 posted on 07/22/2002 12:10:37 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay
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To: Brush_Your_Teeth
Give the INS 10,000 more officers and they can deal with the problem themselfs if they have the correct leadership that stopped putting water tanks in deserts.

Yeah lets create another army. LMAO

13 posted on 07/22/2002 12:11:32 AM PDT by Texasforever
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14 posted on 07/22/2002 12:22:16 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Yehuda
How do we arrest Biden?

Why that's easy. Hum let's see the military arresting corrupt politicans or ones proposing questionable new leglislation, the military detaining corrupt politicans till trial, the military punishing corrupt politicans in federal stockades. Did I miss anything? Every elected offical needs to be overseen by a member of the armed forces. /sarcasm off Absolutely no change should be made involving the military in civilian matters unless these mentioned items come with it also.

15 posted on 07/22/2002 12:23:21 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: hoosierham
Military rule in this country, since the military's almost entirely composed of conservatives, would eventually mean a right wing dictatorship( or monarchy).

Historically the states of right wing dictators and monarchs tend to be smaller and less intrusive then those of Republics or Democracies.

In fact the entry of the military into politics would probably save freedom in this country in the long term rather than destroy it as we are rapidly heading towards a police state now( with this TIPs gestapo crap). Its not like Russia during WWI when the military was subverted by Bolsheviks. The army is conservative here if they end up ruling the government will become smaller and more conservative as well.

16 posted on 07/22/2002 12:39:43 AM PDT by weikel
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To: kattracks
Scarey.

How long before the Bidenites decide that quartering soldiers in civilian homes is OK?

Bring it on, Herr Biden. Reveal the wisdom of Jefferson's dictum: "The tree of Liberty needs to be fed with the blood of tyrants".

17 posted on 07/22/2002 12:49:42 AM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: kattracks
Interviewed yesterday on "Fox News Sunday," Mr. Biden, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prevents the military from exercising police powers in this country, should be re-examined and "has to be amended."
Such a change will happen soon, he said.

Straight from the horse's mouth. I'm sure the paperwork is already made up and just waiting for "just the right moment" to be presented, much like the case with the PATRIOT Act. Ready and waiting in the warm up circle.
There isn't any conspiracy, it's all out in the open. They even holler what is going to happen right from the rooftops.

Batter up!

19 posted on 07/22/2002 1:20:51 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Vidalia
I remember an incident about 20 years ago, when I went to pay for the fuel I put in my truck at a local gas station. A farm bus had just pulled up, so I found myself in line at the cash register with about 25 Mexican nationals.

An INS agent walked inside, and immediately confronted the only white-skinned person in the line-me! He spoke to me in Spanish, and I answered him in English. He wanted to know where I was born. I told him "Montebello, CA", and he left the building.

I figured he was either new on the job, or too lazy to actually risk having to arrest anyone.

20 posted on 07/22/2002 1:46:17 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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