So far, the GOP is not giving conservatives reasons to vote on November 5th

Enter Stage Right ^ | July 15, 2002 | Paul M. Weyrich

[SoothingDave]

So, the solution is yet another political party? That's naive, idealistic, ideologic or a weak attempt splinter one particular party. Buchanan wants your support.

No, of course not. The solution is for the existing party to stop being hypocrites and to stand up for the core beliefs of conservatives. The third party scenario is only for expressing disapproval. But as long as the GOP encourages conservatives to leave by constantly courting those who don't share our agenda, the third parties will get bigger.

The solution is for someone like Bush, who could do it if he wanted to, to just stop playing games and start playing hardball. Use the damn bully pulpit, use the veo power, use whatever political capital he needs to.

Stop emulating Trent Lott and George Michel and start acting like Reagan.

SD

[Deb]

Your description of Bob Dole and GHW Bush's "lie" come right out of the DNC Little Book of Bullshit.

You confirm that you don't read, research or care to know anything about the truth.

Don't hold your nose. Don't vote. Stay home. We don't need you. You lower the IQ of the entire party.

Lots of great TV tonight. Don't miss it.

[Ohioan]

Many sound points. I have tried to inject reality into the Republican arsenal, but it is a slow and often fruitless effort. (See Politics 2001.)

If anything, Weyrich understates the potential clout of the Boy Scouts issue. It is not just in the Conservative regions that the issue would be effective. Properly projected, it would have power even in the more liberal realms. Of course, we will never know how powerful, if no one rasises it. The sorriest thing about politics today, is how few candidates really put principle first! (But see The Boy Scouts Of America & A Leftist Agenda.)

The political future does not look very encouraging right now. And anyone who relies on yesterday's poll data as a sign of what tomorrow will bring is less than merely foolish.

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[Dane]

LOL! Your picture in reply #67 is priceless and is the epitomie of the addage of "A picture can tell a thousand words".

[SoothingDave]

Your description of Bob Dole and GHW Bush's "lie" come right out of the DNC Little Book of Bullshit.

Say what? Now are you going to tell us that Bush never said "read my lips no new taxes?"

SD

[rdb3]

Um, no. Nice to see you throw racial mud, but the certain fact is that when a Republican panders it is "pandering."

"Um, no" hell.

This is what we call "projection." YOU are the one talking about affirmative action and stuff, not me.

I'm simply using the evidence here at FR. I'm not talking about an actual plan or policy submitted by the GOP, either. I'm talking about when a thread talks about convincing American blacks to vote for the GOP instead of the dims. Many FReepers become fit to be tied in these threads.

Tell you what. I'm going to keep you in mind for the next time I see this, then I'll ping you to it.

Lastly and again, I didn't say anything about preference policies or handouts. You did. When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the only one who barks is the one that got hit.

You barked...

[Blood of Tyrants]

No, the laughable part is that people STILL think the Republicans are the "conservative" party. If conservatism was against the law, the Republican Party would never even be charged.

[habs4ever]

Just to recap, Paul was one of the hard core that demanded Ronnie stop selling out to Gorby years gone by....and I never heard a mea culpa from him about that one, either.

Bush has the Weyrich types hyperventalating in just about the same manner Ronnie did back in '83 ;-).Maybe Weyrich just likes to rage?? hmmmmmmmmm.......

[rdb3]

If they really can't see no difference between the parties, at this point in our history...they ain't lookin' too hard.

My honest opinion here, Deb, is that it's far easier for them to blurt out "There's no difference" than it is to weigh the differences.

If there wasn't a difference, why'd I switch?

[Protagoras]

Denial is a confortable place to hide. Shooting the messenger helps you to stay in denial.

[Sabertooth]

But considering I was replying directly to Post #8, as outlined in italics, and making no mention of Dubya running for office...

Post #8 was dealing with the topic of the thread, as headlined. Your response didn't.

Since the President's high poll numbers don't necessarily translate to votes for Republicans this Fall, how about answering the questions I posed for you at #50?

[sinkspur]

polls are notoriously unreliable and unscientific, but I saw one yesterday that gave Bush a 51% approval rating on the economy. Domestic issues usually have the most impact on Congressional elections, do they not? I wouldn't consider 51% encouraging.

Your post is funny. You say that polls are unreliable (actually, they're quite reliable), yet you use one that reflects negatively on Bush as if it were gospel.

Did you post with a straight face?

[rdb3]

That's a cute l'il saying.

[Dane]

Maybe Weyrich just likes to rage?? hmmmmmmmmm.......

I don't think it is rage. It is more perpetual whining, IMHO. Some people are not "happy" unless they are miserable all the time.

[Protagoras]

Numbers, people. It's all about the numbers.

Liberty, people. It's all about liberty.

[rdb3]

True. But how are you going to get that back sans numbers? There's one and only one other way to get it: WAR.

Is your powder dry?

[Coop]

Post #8 was dealing with the topic of the thread, as headlined. Your response didn't.

Post #8 dealt with Pubbies/conservatives abandoning President Bush. My response most assuredly dealt with that topic.

I did answer your question in a follow-on post, since I too quickly posted my first response.

[RicocheT]

Post # 14 is worth repeating!!

"Here's a reason. Conservative judges. Take control of the Senate and let's get some judicial appiontees through the Daschle blockade.

14 posted on 7/15/02 12:51 PM Central by Smedley"

VOTE and stop WINING about GW not being conservative enough.

[Consort]

But as long as the GOP encourages conservatives to leave...

And just where are these potential (?) turncoats going to when they leave? Who are they voting for (we know they are voting because "Hard Core" Conservatives know it's their patriotic duty to vote)? I thought it was only the Liberals who wanted everyone to be as miserable as them.

[Dane]

My honest opinion here, Deb, is that it's far easier for them to blurt out "There's no difference" than it is to weigh the differences.

What and actually use their thought processes rather than blurting knee jerk responses.

That would be a novel concept too complicated for them to understand, IMHO.