Posted on 07/09/2002 1:20:32 PM PDT by knighthawk
The Hague - The Netherlands has to deal with extensive crime. Especially in the area of minor crimes like theft and vandalism the Netherlands takes the top spot. Also, according the DA-office, the government does not hold in account the difference between the level of crime in different regions when assigning police officers.
The DA-office compared the crime-statistics of nine countries: Denmark, Canada, Australia, Germany, Austria, France, UK, Sweden and the US.
The comparison shows that the Netherlands are doing bad. The Netherlands almost has twice as much crimes per 1000 citizens the Austria and also the Netherlands tops the US. Especially in the minor crimes like theft and vandalism, threat and vandalization of cars the Netherlands tops the list.
When looking at the more serious crimes like burglary and violent crimes, the Netherlands hold a spot in the middle. The number of murders in Amsterdam and Rotterdam is also this year the highest amongst the investigated cities, expect those in the US. This top spot on the list the Netherlands has to thank to the high number of liquidations in the drugsscene.
Left gave crime a chance
NRC Handelsblad, Tom-Jan Meeus, June 22 2002
Rotterdam, 22 june - Left members of citycouncils, together with the chiefs of police, are responisble for neglecting the criminal investigation department. The major crimes, often comitted by immigrants, have gotten much more space to operate than needed.
This according to Rotterdam chief of police H.A. Jansen today in a interview with the NRC Handelblad. He left his leading role with the Rotterdam criminal investigation department to improve the fighting of crime on national level. Jansen (56) is one of the most experienced chiefs of police in the Netherlands.
The 'price of neglection' is also that within the police force there was developed a 'shocking ' situation that there are almost no experienced police offivers that investigate organized crime. "The left didn't want to know people were bad, and some people even real bad", according to Jansen. He points out that the PvdA(socialist party) in Rotterdam in the seventies refused chief of police J. Blaauw as chief of police because he was known as a die-hard. The citycouncil stopped in the eighties a raport published by Jansen and his colleagues that reported that the city of Rotterdam was burdened under the organized crime by mostly immigrant origine. In the seventies the investments in the criminal investigation department has been neglected, because the citycouncil wanted to invest the money in crime prevention and disctrict police. Jansen says: "Because of the soft handeling in the seventies, the denail of the excistence of organized crime in the eighties and the introduction of ideas that are out of date in the nineties there has developed a certain climate. Pim Fortuyn used that to his advantage. It's that hard."
The investments in discrict police have been pushed forward by a group of chiefs of police that also plead for this in the seventies, according to Jansen. "That way we found ourselves in the strange situation that a concept of the seventies was introduced in the nineties. But society in the nineties did in no way look like that of 20 years back. The link was gone. People lived more raw, hard, more impatient. Crime rose explosive. That a district cop cannot handle. Then repression fits", according Jansen.
Pim Fortuyn stood up to stop this madness. He was murdered by a leftie for speaking up. Since Pim Foruyn's death, more than 120.00 people visited his grave. Thanks to him we are back on the track again.
Family of Pim Fortuyn throwed the thousands of flowers into the river Maas
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You speak english very well, even better than Jesse Jackson.
Incredible.
btw, good pic of the Maasbrug, I was there when they opened it
Which the article addresses directly:
When looking at the more serious crimes like burglary and violent crimes, the Netherlands hold a spot in the middle. The number of murders in Amsterdam and Rotterdam is also this year the highest amongst the investigated cities, expect those in the US. This top spot on the list the Netherlands has to thank to the high number of liquidations in the drugsscene.
Summary: Amsterdam and Rotterdam have the highest murder rates in Europe, and they're largely drug-related crimes.
This is not at all unexpected -- drug dealing is a high-profit enterprise that is operated by folks who are demonstrably uninterested in the well-being of those they "serve." It's not too surprising that such folks are less prone to qualms about killing.
But it does tend to highlight the real weakness of the libertarian position, which is their unwarranted assumption that people will all be nice and polite if only the government would let them make their own bad decisions.
They still want cars, gold chains, earrings, tatoos, tvs, stereos, the latest in gangster apparel, etc. and they continue to commit crime to get it.
I would bet that condition does not prevail in the Netherlands, which has an extensive government health system and (I assume, since we do) antidiscrimination laws which in effect prevent landlords and perhaps even employers from testing for and penalizing drug use.
Also, it would be interesting to see which drug industries dominate the murder scene. From what I understand no drug in Holland is completely legal but some (marijuana, hashish) are decriminalized, which is not the same thing. Fully legal markets would allow the drug industry the same resort to the court system as other industries have. AFAIK no country has tried legalization in this sense,. although of course we did when Prohibition ended.
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