Posted on 07/06/2002 3:29:09 AM PDT by kcvl
Exactly...We should pull out now, leave a note, telling them if they again harbor bad people, there will be no troops on the ground, just hellfire from the air, with no discrimination between the just and the unjust.
IMHO Al Quaeda has cells/bases in many countries beside Afghanistan. Do we "occupy" them all?
Let them have Afghanistan. I don't care whether or not Afghani women wear silly costumes, I don't care if they can read or have professional lives...not my issue. I would really prefer that we keep the nuts inside their countries...Albania, Afganistan, Iraq, whereever. And use the troops to keep them out of the US.
It's a pipeline thing...it's that globablism notion that we can dictate government and lifestyle to other people.
I say, get out of Afghanistan, the troops have had enough time to find BinLaden (why wasn't he under constant surveillance, anyway?), and let the bad guys have that miserable piece of earth.
Quite humane of you.
Perhaps even the Afghanis are beginning to see the stupidity of attempting to integrate Taliban and al-Qaeda into a civilized government. By stealth or otherwise.
You: Quite humane of you
But I do care that 19 men who should not have been in the country were able to get on those planes at pretty much the same time. And I do care that illegals (all nationalities) haven't been sent home. And I do care that foreigners are still here working on visas when there are Americans to do the jobs...technology for example. And I do care that some in government are more interested in letting Mexicans in than keeping terrorists out.
And, the reason I care is that this is my country. Afganistan is not.
And let's never allow any Americans to leave the armed camp because the rest of the world will be overrun with the bad guys and it won't be safe to go anywhere.
Geez, you've just solved the whole problem! Good work.
winning their hearts and minds is a good thing, and helping them achieve democracy -- well, a republic; straight democracy is as tyrranical as anything else -- is just great. we should make a point of encouraging governmental reforms everywhere they might do any good. but they should not be any part of our response to 9/11. the events of that day were an act of war against the united states of america. we called them an act of war. we more or less declared a war on terrorism. and then we proceeded as if we'd attained an easy victory and were now imposing something like a marshall plan.
anyone see what's missing? a little something along the lines of an actual victory? we're engaged in a bloodier version of the mouse that roared and we're falling for it.
the precedent must be set: attack the u.s. and you will pay a terrible price. attack the u.s. and those around you will pay a terrible price, not because of the u.s. but because of your actions in attacking the u.s., and if those around you do not care to pay that price, then they have to do whatever is necessary to assure that you do not asttack the u.s.
but no, we're saying "attack the u.s. and we'll build you a new country and give you a whole lot of money." what afghanistan wants to do internally is at bottom up to afghanistan. their only responsibility to us ought to be that they'll leave us the hell alone, and our responsibility to them ought to be the assurance that if an attack on us originates there, they will regret it. this should be standard operating procedure in our dealings around the world. once it has been established to the extent that no one can doubt it in the slightest, then we can talk about helping people achieve freedom.
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I think that's a non-sequitor. Sending home illegals and restricting or stopping immigration does not lead to living in an armed camp. Having the threat we do within our borders does.
I seem to remember it working pretty darn well with Japan.
Until we perfect hydrogen fuel cell technology we are going to have to fight for cheap BTU's in the name of whatever works. History shows isolationism to be simply ignoring the boiling pot on the stove until it causes a fire that threatens to burn down the house. Better to burn your hands grabbing the pot than wait to be cremated.
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