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God and Evolution
Stands to Reason ^ | Gregory Koukl

Posted on 07/05/2002 12:26:31 PM PDT by Khepera

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To: Tourist Guy
"If there were evolution, my dog would evolve to do some useful purpose, such as taking the trash out to the curb. The cats would figure out how to use the can opener by now AND humans would evolve so that we could scratch our own backs." -- Tourist Guy

So you never had a dog. Ever camped and hunted in the trackless wilderness with a dog? Ever had one wake you up with your neighbor's house on fire. Come to think of it, when you can smell as well as a dog maybe you could make yourself useful too. In fact there may well be dogs whose intellectual abilities greatly exceed your own judging by your thoroughly mistaken take on evolution.

Cats have human slaves for the purpose of opening cans of cat food. Then again lets see you catch rats and mice with the same efficiency as the common house cat.

As for the back scratching ability you have really demonstrated your mental failing. Man is the ultimate tool maker and user. We designed back scratchers eons ago. There is no selection pressure to alter us physically in that direction.

361 posted on 07/07/2002 3:51:38 PM PDT by Vercingetorix
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To: concerned about politics
"If animals want to live, why haven't they changed to something that can't be eaten?" -- Concerned About Polititcs

Some have but not because they "wanted" to live. Perhaps you should try "eating" a Cape Buffalo some time. Just walk up to it and start gnawing. If you survive the attempt perhaps you would care to record your revised theory of evolution. Should you fail to survive you will be immortalized as a recipient of the "Darwin Award" granted to those who have done mankind a great service by removing their defects from the gene pool.

362 posted on 07/07/2002 4:12:05 PM PDT by Vercingetorix
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To: Vercingetorix
Ah, forgive me I forgot the

/sarcasm
tag.

Maybe you could evolve a sense of humor, and yes I have a dog, cats and a mate (as per Genesis) that scratches my back.

363 posted on 07/07/2002 4:22:58 PM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: Vercingetorix
Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

Chump.

364 posted on 07/07/2002 4:25:44 PM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: Tourist Guy
"Maybe you could evolve a sense of humor, and yes I have a dog, cats and a mate (as per Genesis) that scratches my back." -- Tourist Guy

Your cute remarks are simply evidence of the disdain you have for science. I was doing you a service by pointing out that your attempt at humor was wide of the mark.

Try learning science from the scientists instead of the crackpot fringe and you will be able at least to avoid the common mistakes that characterize your posts.

(P.S. This is sound advice, not a personal attack.)

365 posted on 07/07/2002 4:55:40 PM PDT by Vercingetorix
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To: Vercingetorix
More fun Einstein Quotes:

"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." [Albert Einstein, 1954, from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press]

"Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being." [Albert Einstein, 1936, responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray. Source: "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", Edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffmann]


366 posted on 07/08/2002 4:51:24 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: balrog666
I never thought of it but that is a good question. how about uber-natural? That good enough?

EBUCK

368 posted on 07/08/2002 8:13:20 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: concerned about politics
If evolution were correct, wouldn't we have grown out of that by now?

Because minerals are still available in abundance.

What I can't understand is if evolution is correct why are there still religions? Why haven't we grown out of that decidedly primative practice?

EBUCK

369 posted on 07/08/2002 8:26:41 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: concerned about politics
Actually the rates of the earth's spin makes the moon's creation about 4.5 billion years ago. One can read the jounals and duplicate the computation.

The Sahara decreased in size during the 1980s.

Ice cores do not have uniform thicknesses each year.

There are creosote clusters with ages more that 12,000 years by counting growth rings.

370 posted on 07/08/2002 8:40:30 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: JediGirl
Einstein was always one of my favorite people. Years ago I gave my three year old nephew a large portrait of Einstein which his very religious parents hung in his room. It had to be removed because the little fellow didn't care to have "God" staring at him from across the room in the dark.
371 posted on 07/08/2002 10:19:27 AM PDT by Vercingetorix
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To: Vercingetorix
Yes, a superficial, contextual reading of the statement would lead one to that conclusion and history of science folks generally come down there. I have it on good authority that Einstein knew God much better than Heisenberg and God takes full advantage of quantum mechanics. The dice are loaded my friend.
372 posted on 07/09/2002 6:07:28 PM PDT by WriteOn
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To: WriteOn
"I have it on good authority that Einstein knew God much better than Heisenberg and God takes full advantage of quantum mechanics. The dice are loaded my friend." -- WriteOn

Neither man knew God at all. They each knew some physics (probably the best insight into the mind of God) and as far as anyone can tell the game is not rigged.

373 posted on 07/09/2002 8:22:47 PM PDT by Vercingetorix
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To: Vercingetorix
Einstein: "No, the natural laws of science have not only been worked out theoretically but have been proven also in practice. I cannot then believe in this concept of an anthropomorphic God who has the powers of interfering with these natural laws. As I said before, the most beautiful and most profound religious emotion that we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. And this mysticality is the power of all true science. If there is any such concept as a God, it is a subtle spirit, not an image of a man that so many have fixed in their minds. In essence, my religion consists of a humble admiration for this illimitable superior spirit that reveals itself in the slight details that we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds."

Clearly he did know God, but not nearly well enough. It's the wonder and beauty of God that he can work through even the brilliantly ignorant (and manipulate the apparently random), calling to scientists through their science and revealing his truths to them. Einstein clearly had the sense of wonder that is attendant with nearness to God, as you'd expect at the theoretical limits of knowledge. He couldn't have come any closer without a direct appeal to Grace.

374 posted on 07/10/2002 6:34:19 AM PDT by WriteOn
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To: Osinski
I like the "Sons of God" impregnating the "Daughters of Men" theory myself.

---->Annunaki territory?
375 posted on 07/17/2002 10:30:54 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
---->Annunaki territory?

Means what?

376 posted on 07/17/2002 12:55:19 PM PDT by Osinski
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To: f.Christian
Purple monkey dishwasher.
377 posted on 07/22/2002 1:35:59 AM PDT by Soulcleaver
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