Posted on 07/05/2002 12:26:31 PM PDT by Khepera
While we're on the subject of evidence... Is there any evidence of Bertrand Russell having ever been anything other than a sort of an ignorant jerk? Is there anything the guy ever did which has any sort of a positive influence on anybody's life in 2002?
I mean, I look at the kinds of quotes you seem to like and I look at some of what you see on the internet, and all I really see is a sort of a wasted life.
What I mean is that people with supposedly brilliant minds are supposed to do more with them than that. Take Henry Ford, for instance: every time I drive to Richmond or New York, I can easily imagine how hard it wuold be to walk those distances. Or take Alexander Pushkin; millions of people still read his poetry 170 years after his times. Or even John Lennon; people still enjoy Beatles music all over the world.
Nobody has to ask what the great musicians have done for humanity or what any of your great inventors have done for humanity, or what people like Thomas Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt have done for humanity.
But what did Bertrand Russel ever do for humanity? Is there really anything in modern mathematics which wouldn't work without some contribution of his? Like I say, from everything I've ever been able to read, the guy was just an ignorant jerk.
Many Experts Quoted on FUBAR State of Evolution
"If a person doesn't think that there is a God to be accountable to, then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway. I always believed the theory of evolution as truth, that we all came from slime. When we died, you know , that was it, there is nothing..."
Jeffrey Dahmer, noted Evolutionist
Given standard theories wrt the history of our solar system and our own planet, nobody should be finding cities and villages on Mars, 2100 feet beneath the waves off Cuba, or buried under two miles of Antarctic ice.
Ancient religious practices mainly amounted to attempts to communicate with the spirit world directly via oracles, prophets, divination etc. and electrical gadgetry such as the ark of the covenant and the pyramids, and all that kind of stuff had stopped working just prior to Christian times.
12. Would you be interested, if I showed you from the Bible, how to have your sins forgiven and how to know for sure that you are going to Heaven? If so, tell me
Part of the appeal of religion isn't it (this going to heaven business)? I'd sure like to go to a place where I can see my dead relatives and sip tea with them while nibbling on crumpets. Cute idea, religion is. Man made for man's comfort.
mommy!
If you claim that God made man in his image does that mean that God is a hateful, violent, spiteful, idiotic, blinkered, narrow-minded, moronic fool who doesn't actually have a clue as to what's going to happen one minute to the next?
That's personal opinion. I could as well ask what's the evidence that you (or Velikovsky for that matter) ever have been anything other than a sort of an ignorant jerk.
...and all I really see is a sort of a wasted life.
And something like this is coming from you. Oh, the irony ;-D
But that's not all. The best thing is you can watch your other relatives who didn't make it to heaven roast in hell while sipping tea and nibbling on crumpets. Isn't this great?
In fact, it is a Bibically literal claim that God created man in his own image. Man has at least three dimensions (and time as the fourth.) So those who claim that God created space and time are at odds with the literal Bible -- for God's image must have already had all these dimensions (and possibly more.)
I think this is one of the "literal" parts of the Bible that most "literalists" decide is NOT literal. They get to pick and choose. Very convenient.
I bring up the issue(s) only to demonstrate how utterly vacuous the "Hitler believed in evolution, therefore evolution is evil" formulation is.
The same goes for the matter of the Pope. I'm illustrating the false dichotomy you persist in using: "Evolution or God."
True. Until just a few days ago, I was unaware that the Nazis used it. I had thought the formulation had ended with World War I.
That "Gott mit uns" predates the Nazis actually helps illustrate my point. The theory of evolution predates the Nazis, too. The Nazis managed to pervert both.
Ha, you merely prove that science truly is the work of Satan!
I got rid of my model trains after I found out the fascist Mussolini made the trains run on time.
My model trains run on electricity.
A/K/A the reductio ad Hitlerum - anything that Hitler agreed with or engaged in is necessarily evil.
Now that I think about it, I'm fairly sure that Hitler ate food and wore clothes. Therefore, food and clothing are evil. I demand that you prove your righteousness by nakedly starving to death...
Looks like some people are on their way to satisfying your request. Their agenda is really exposed in post 14, by the way.
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