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Routier asks judge to retest evidence - Convicted baby killer tries to weasel out of death penalty
Associated Press ^ | July 3, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 07/04/2002 9:24:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP


Routier asks judge to retest evidence

07/03/2002

Associated Press

Dallas - Death row inmate Darlie Routier was back in a Dallas courtroom today, wanting to retest evidence used to convict her for stabbing her two sons in 1996.

Routier's attorneys are asking to retest the night gown she was wearing the night of the killings, which had cuts and blood evidence. The attorneys also want to test carpet, tile and floor samples to see if bloody footprints were left by someone else.

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AP
Darlie Routier

State District Judge Robert Francis said he would review their request and possibly rule on it Monday.

Routier's attorneys have said they have new evidence that a bloody fingerprint found inside the house did not belong to Darlie Routier, her husband, her sons or investigators.

Routier has maintained her innocence and says an intruder killed her sons, 5-year-old Damon and 6-year-old Devon.

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AP / FILE
Devon (left) and Damon Routier


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/070302dnmetroutierhearing.454077d5.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: babykiller; convictedmurderer; darlieroutier; deathpenalty; murder
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1 posted on 07/04/2002 9:24:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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Updated story on the DMN:


Routier's team seeks evidence

Judge to rule Monday on whether items must be turned over; writ needed, prosecutors say

07/04/2002

By ROBERT THARP / The Dallas Morning News

Five attorneys representing convicted murderer Darlie Routier argued Wednesday that prosecutors should turn over evidence in her capital murder conviction for new tests.

Ms. Routier's legal team is asking for access to several items seized from her Rowlett home June 6, 1996, the night her young sons, Devon and Damon, were stabbed to death.

According to a defense motion, attorneys hope to conduct their own forensic tests to bolster her argument that an intruder slipped into the home, attacked her and killed the boys.

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IRWIN THOMPSON / DMN
Attorneys for Darlie Routier, who attended the hearing, hope to conduct forensic tests on items taken from her home.
Judge Robert Francis said he will rule Monday on the motion. Ms. Routier, transferred to Dallas County Jail from women's death row in Gatesville, was present for the hourlong hearing.

Prosecutor John Rolater Jr. opposed the defense request for access to evidence, saying such motions should be made after the attorneys file a writ of habeas corpus. Attorneys have until July 13 to file that challenge to her conviction based on new evidence or arguments not addressed in the initial trial.

Items sought by Ms. Routier's attorneys include a nightshirt she wore on the night of the slaying. Attorneys hope to show that the shirt has evidence of cutting that would be inconsistent with prosecutors' allegations that her chest wounds were self-inflicted.

Attorneys also want to analyze carpet and floor samples, as well as a kitchen knife and a window screen.

Ms. Routier indicated to Judge Francis that she had met each of the attorneys and wanted their representation.

Besides attorney Steven Losch, who was not present but spoke with the judge by telephone during the hearing, Ms. Routier's legal team includes three attorneys from a firm in Washington, D.C., who are working at no charge.

Dallas attorney J. Stephen Cooper, who was initially appointed to handle the appeal of her conviction under review by the Court of Criminal Appeals, rounds out the defense team.

E-mail rtharp@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/stories/070402dnmetdarlie.c6371.html

2 posted on 07/04/2002 9:28:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
FWIW, I don't know that we want to criticize Routier's legal team for this. Even a convicted murderess has the right to petition the court in this way.

Let's try to separate the wonderful system of justice we have in our fabulous country from our feelings about the criminals themselves.

3 posted on 07/04/2002 9:35:06 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Slyfox
FYI
4 posted on 07/04/2002 9:38:02 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: Illbay
Due process by all means.

Even for those caught red-handed.

It is the American way and one of the things that makes us great.

5 posted on 07/04/2002 9:42:44 AM PDT by LibKill
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To: Illbay
Do you think that she'll get a retrial because of the technical problems with
the court reporter's mistakes?
6 posted on 07/04/2002 9:51:55 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Al B.
The jury was right in finding her guilty and sending her to death row. She was the one who took the knife out of the holder and sliced the window screen, FROM THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE, to make it look like an intruder had done it and then returned the knife to it's rightful place. When the police looked around the room at all the evidence they found life insurance policies on the boys totaling $10,000 dollars in the same room where they died. Premeditated and planned killings. They should have given her swift justice and should not waste our time and money letting her scrounge around for loopholes.
7 posted on 07/04/2002 10:34:19 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: MeeknMing
I have no idea.

But please bear in mind that a third jury in twenty years just sentenced Johnny Paul Penry to death yet again.

Texas ain't California (thank God).

8 posted on 07/04/2002 10:52:04 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Slyfox
They should have given her swift justice and should not waste our time and money letting her scrounge around for loopholes.

I understand you feelings, but IMO I am very glad our system of justice is as deliberate as it is. I am four-square in favor of the death penalty, but I am also in favor of the right of the convict to have evidence reviewed, adequate appeals, etc.

The Left would LOVE to see someone innocent put to death. They already act like it has happened. The only point in which they are right is that it would be a shame.

9 posted on 07/04/2002 10:54:21 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Slyfox
If you are so convinced of her guilt, please tell us why within a 3 year span of the Routier killings, there have been two other similar MO entries in the same Garland neighborhood. One before, and one after.

The main reason the detectives on this case focused on Mrs. Routier (and since they are from Garland, I am using the term loosely), was that the Routier grave side services did not agree with their own perceived idea of grief.

And are you not really biased by using the word "Weasel" in this headline?

I have spent a lot of time looking at this case as we did with the Jeter case and I am not convinced that despite the DNA evidence that we really know what happened or that the right person was convicted.

In the original American justice system, that used to be "reasonable doubt."

10 posted on 07/04/2002 11:11:52 AM PDT by rollin
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To: rollin
I was not "swayed by the word 'weasel'". She is guilty and ought to fry. If I was on the jury, I'd a been at the forefront of making sure she got the needle. The original jury saw ALL the evidence. Don't bother trying to convince me otherwise.
11 posted on 07/04/2002 11:17:12 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: rollin
If you are so convinced of her guilt, please tell us why within a 3 year span of the Routier killings, there have been two other similar MO entries in the same Garland neighborhood. One before, and one after.

Do you have a link? Are you saying that in the same neighborhood, there have been two break-ins where a guy has just walked in and stabbed children? Or just that there have been two break-ins. Please provide a link.

The main reason the detectives on this case focused on Mrs. Routier (and since they are from Garland, I am using the term loosely), was that the Routier grave side services did not agree with their own perceived idea of grief.

You don't think the fact that the screen was cut from the inside had anything to do with it?

12 posted on 07/04/2002 11:23:59 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Slyfox
Yep, all the members of the Jeter jury were convinced also.

But that only means that Jeter was convicted, not guilty!

Of course, some of us have spent a lot of time, money and effort helping those like Jeter get their day in court where the politically-driven DA's can be brought back to the real world.

If you have children, how much life insurance do you have on them? Does that make you a potential murder suspect?

13 posted on 07/04/2002 11:35:47 AM PDT by rollin
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To: Rodney King
Check the Garland police reports.
14 posted on 07/04/2002 11:37:01 AM PDT by rollin
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To: rollin
No thanks. The wild-goose-chase theory of argument works well sometimes on FR, but not with me. If you have something, post it. Until then I will assume that your post is BS.
15 posted on 07/04/2002 11:39:29 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Slyfox
She is guilty and ought to fry.
16 posted on 07/04/2002 11:40:22 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: rollin
If you have children, how much life insurance do you have on them?

I have a child, and I have zero life insurance on her. What would I possbily need life insurance on her for? At 2, we are not dependent on her income. If I did have life insurance on my daughter, it would not just be lying around in the living room, it would be in a drawer. Particularly if I was having financial difficulies and planned on killing her, and then cutting the screen from the inside.

17 posted on 07/04/2002 11:42:01 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Illbay
We criticize the legal team because they are attempting to re-try this case piece-meal in the press. First, one new theory and then another new theory .....

Her defense team had the opportunity to test these matters prior to trial. In order to raise a proper "actual innocence" claim under Texas habeas corpus law, the Routier must show that it is newly-discovered evidence. These items are not newly-discovered.

Plus, until they file their habeas corpus writ, the trial court lacks any jurisdiction to consider their requests. Any experienced criminal defense lawyer would know this. However, her team seems to be chock full of out-of-state anti-death penalty zealots and assorted other media lawyers.

18 posted on 07/04/2002 11:42:04 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: writmeister
FWIW
I don't have a dog in this hunt, if guilty she must die, if not find out who did it.
But there has been evidence surface about husband Darrin talking to someone about breaking into the home.
There was a big write up in the this months "Texas Monthly", I believe.
19 posted on 07/04/2002 11:52:17 AM PDT by dtel
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To: Rodney King
Now we have discovered that your value system is different than Routier's.

A $10,000 life insurance policy will barely cover the cost of a funeral these days. Guess you can afford the costs out of your pocket.

In my extended family, every child is covered with a 25,000 life insurance policy upon birth. These policies can be used later on for other purposes including education or home down-payments through the buildup of cash value.

But then we believe in providing for our own as opposed to letting others provide for us through the welfare system.

So just maybe you will admit that the life insurance policy is not necessarily as big an issue as you think. But then, I forget, you have all the facts and have convicted her based upon your life experiences.

20 posted on 07/04/2002 11:55:46 AM PDT by rollin
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