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Scientists estimate 30 billion Earths
bbc ^ | 3 Jul 02 | Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 07/03/2002 9:03:47 AM PDT by RightWhale

Scientists estimate 30 billion Earths

By Dr David Whitehouse , BBC News Online science editor

Astronomers say there could be billions of Earths in our galaxy, the Milky Way.

Their assessment comes after the discovery of the 100th exoplanet - a planet that circles a star other than our own.

The latest find is a gas giant, just like all the other exoplanets so far detected, and orbits a Sun-like star 293 light-years away.

Scientists say they are now in a position to try to estimate how many planets may exist in the galaxy and speculate on just how many could be like the Earth. The answer in both cases is billions.

Virtually all the stars out to about 100 light-years distant have been surveyed. Of these 1,000 or so stars, about 10% have been found to possess planetary systems.

So, with about 300 billion stars in our galaxy, there could be about 30 billion planetary systems in the Milky Way alone; and a great many of these systems are very likely to include Earth-like worlds , say researchers.

Better grasp

The 100th new planet circles the star HD 2039. It was found by astronomers using the Anglo-Australian Telescope as part of the Carnegie Institution Planet Search Program.

The Jupiter-sized world circles its star every 1,210 days at a distance of about 320 million kilometres (200 million miles).

Astronomer Dr Jean Schneider, who compiles the Extrasolar Planets Catalogue, told BBC News Online: "The 100th planet is symbolic and important.

"The first discoveries concentrated on short orbital periods because of the limited timebase of observations. Now, we are learning more about the statistics of long orbital periods and know to what extent our own Jupiter is exceptional or not."

New telescopes

With the new world, astronomers say that they have just about finished surveying all the Sun-like stars out to a distance of 100 light-years from Earth.

Current planet detection technology - based on the "wobble" induced in the parent star by the gravitational pull of the orbiting planet - can only detect worlds about the mass of Saturn or larger. Earth-sized worlds are too small to be seen.

But even in this "biased" survey of giants, the smaller worlds predominate - which makes astronomers think that Earth-like worlds do exist. They may even be as common as Jupiter-sized exoplanets.

And if stellar statistics gathered in our local region of space are applied to our galaxy of 300 billion stars, then there may be 30 billion Jupiter-like worlds and perhaps as many Earth-like worlds as well.

Astronomers will have to wait for a new generation of space-based telescopes incorporating advanced detectors before they can detect Earth-sized worlds orbiting other stars.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: earth; galaxy; goliath; planets; space; xplanets
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There might be other planets about the size of earth, but none of them, not one, would be like earth in any other way. Don't expect meadow-fresh air, nor mild seasons, nor lake trout.

Suggesting that there could be life out there and planets we might like is like telling Columbus that streets in America are paved with gold. Such an idea might cause exploration and the king to open the kingdom's coffers, but the reality will be far different. False hope. How is the King of Spain doing these days?

1 posted on 07/03/2002 9:03:47 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Maybe so, but I'm beginning to feel kinda cramped.
2 posted on 07/03/2002 9:10:51 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: RightWhale
There might be other planets about the size of earth, but none of them, not one, would be like earth in any other way.

I hope you are not questioning the veracity of Captain James T. Kirk! No space bimbos? For Pete's sake keep it quiet or the space program is doomed...

3 posted on 07/03/2002 9:13:21 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RightWhale
I could pick a number out of hat, and it would be just as valid as this number.
4 posted on 07/03/2002 9:13:45 AM PDT by dead
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To: RightWhale
With all due respect I beg to differ. The probability of another Earth like planet with similiar features is just a probable as not. I do not believe that you can make a blanket statement with regard to probabilities. If you are a creationist - Why wouldn't God stick to a receipe that works? If you are a science based thinker then again it is just as likely as not.

If you like some more imagination pretend that the Stargate is real and some other race scattered the gene pool around the galaxy. Or possible by visiting a young planet and leaving behind some stray proteins that took over and began life.

5 posted on 07/03/2002 9:14:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RightWhale
Scientists estimate 30 billion Earths

Each of which must be 'saved' by environmentalists. I wouldn't be surprised to see some form of universe environmental protection legislation pushed by the enviro-lobby and introduced by the usual suspects by the end of next week.

6 posted on 07/03/2002 9:15:52 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: RightWhale
I propose we start imposing tarrifs on them right away.
7 posted on 07/03/2002 9:17:02 AM PDT by lds23
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To: Savage Beast
I'm beginning to feel kinda cramped

We all are. Like rats in a box.

We don't actually need planets to live in outer space. Think about it: If we can build starships that take 1000 years to get anywere, we will have essentially built our own worlds. Don't need planets, it's a lame excuse for staying on this backwater mudhole of a planet.

8 posted on 07/03/2002 9:17:19 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: mad_as_he$$
Granted that all that is possible. However, none of it has been seen so far, and there is no reason to wait until it is seen. Our job, our assigned task, is to go forth and multiply, not to sit here and wring our hands until something is delivered on a golden platter. We already got our golden platter of goodies, don't expect another.
9 posted on 07/03/2002 9:21:26 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: *Space
Index Bump
10 posted on 07/03/2002 9:22:14 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: TADSLOS
They already have their hooks into the moon and Mars. Planets might be scarce overall, but the thing that is even scarcer out there is environmentalists. Always will be like that. In Space no one can hear you Whine.
11 posted on 07/03/2002 9:23:41 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Wow these Scientists are so smart!! 30 billion..whew now I can sleep better tonight knowing this.

Come to think of it, about every planet they find they always compare to Jupiter anyway so I'm surprised they didn't say 30 billion Jupiters.
12 posted on 07/03/2002 9:23:43 AM PDT by Blackdakota
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To: mad_as_he$$
Larry Norman bump.

If there's life on other planets then I'm sure that he must know,
And he's been there once already and has died to save their souls.

13 posted on 07/03/2002 9:24:10 AM PDT by far sider
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To: Billthedrill
Ahem. No "space bimbos". They are Green Orion Slave Women.

Get your terminology correct, you dunsel (g)

14 posted on 07/03/2002 9:25:04 AM PDT by Salgak
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To: far sider
You beat me to it. Amen.
15 posted on 07/03/2002 9:29:39 AM PDT by EBITDA
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To: RightWhale
Hey! I kinda like this planet!

OTOH, I'd also like to see a few other worlds. Unfortunately, it's just too darn expensive to get there.

16 posted on 07/03/2002 9:29:50 AM PDT by john in missouri
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To: Blackdakota
30 billion Jupiters

Out of the 100 SuperJupiters, they found 1 that has an orbit like the one and only original Jupiter. That 1 is a "possible" for small rocky planets similar to the inner planets. The rest are unlikely. That's 1 in 1000, not 1 in 10. The 30 billion is down to 0.3 billion. If you pick up 300 million grains of sand off a beach, what are the odds of even one jewel-quality diamond being in there? Could happen, but you could starve first.

17 posted on 07/03/2002 9:30:00 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
In Space no one can hear you Whine.

Nice. And such a perfect fit for them.
I'll be borrowing that one :)

18 posted on 07/03/2002 9:32:08 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: john in missouri
it's just too darn expensive to get there

Getting there is the cheap part. Terraforming what we find there will be expensive.

19 posted on 07/03/2002 9:32:12 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Scientists estimate 30 billion Earths

I estimate too many scientists with too much time on their hands.

20 posted on 07/03/2002 9:34:54 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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