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NEW ZEALAND ELECTIONS: The southseas circus thread
July 3 2002 | Shaggy Eel

Posted on 07/02/2002 9:34:11 PM PDT by shaggy eel

Some of you will know New Zealand has general elections on July 27 2002. Some of you have asked me to keep you up to date on anything significant. This thread is where I'll do that. It's a scrapbook of political eMAIL letters from New Zealand's right wing -Richard Prebble, leader of New Zealand's most right wing Party, ACT; Bill English, leader of centre right NATIONAL Party and a variety of newspaper excerpts. We have a bunch of leftists running the show at present and it's all downhill.

Kiwi voters offshore reading this - our best bet at this stage is giving our Party vote to ACT and our electorate vote to NATIONAL.


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Thanx for stopping by to look in!
1 posted on 07/02/2002 9:34:11 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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BUMP

[G'Day shaggs]

2 posted on 07/02/2002 9:56:12 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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Mate,

How about a deal?

NZ leases what's left of its Defence Force to Australia and in return Australia will find room in the Woomera Detention Camp for Clake and her ilk.

Oh, and while we're at it; are you sure you guys don't want to become the 7th state? It can't be any worse than what you've got now. :)
3 posted on 07/02/2002 10:00:13 PM PDT by Dundee
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To: Dundee
I was listening to Rush, and he had a stand-in. The guest interviewed someone who ranks nations in "economic freedom." In the survey, the USA came in 4th. Hong Kong was 1st (always the case), Singapore got the silver, and New Zealand (with a labor gov't) got the bronze.

I don't know much more about this, other than the Arab crescent was the most repressive.

4 posted on 07/02/2002 10:47:09 PM PDT by Orion
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To: Dundee
,,, you can have what's left of our airforce, it will mean Klark can't get rescued next time your airport workers are on strike.

I'm a charitable sort of cuss, I wouldn't wish the detainees or Klark on Australia in a month of Sundays.

Finally, the seventh State proposition... you knock out police corruption and capital gains tax and it's a goer.

5 posted on 07/03/2002 1:01:27 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Brian Allen; Trapper John
,,, g'day Bri. Good to see ya checking in.
6 posted on 07/03/2002 1:02:24 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Orion
,,, New Zealand's competitiveness and deregulation isn't a new thing. Reforms anchored in the mid 1980s and ongoing have got it to where it is today. Over 65% of our export receipts are from primary produce and associated derivitives. No farm subsidies. It's got a lot going for it but the outgoings in welfare of $NZ13b per fiscal year aren't sustainable on an economy that had 5% growth when NATIONAL passed power to Labour at the last election. We're possibly going to see 2%+ growth this year and that's with our dollar firming up. Wages are low and have, for the most part been frozen for many since the mid to late 1990s. Stealth taxes are biting harder all the time and costs, of course can only go up.

The total household debt of our population stands at about $NZ79b right now - for a total of 3,8m people. Banks and consumer credit institutions are the winners. Financial engineering. If this country is managed right, our economy can turn on a dime.

7 posted on 07/03/2002 1:10:42 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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THURSDAY, 04 JULY 2002

T O P S T O R Y [www.stuff.co.nz] July 4 2002

PM sees red over Greens' threat
By JONATHAN MILNE

In an angry escalation of campaign tension, Prime Minister Helen Clark has warned that she will retaliate if the Greens declare "outright war" on Labour.

Greens co-leader Jeanette Fitzsimons had earlier thrown an election bombshell, threatening yesterday to stop Labour forming a new government unless it extended the genetic modification moratorium.

That action could have left no party able to govern after the election, forcing voters to return to the polls before the end of the year.

Ms Fitzsimons retracted her threat later in the day after talking to colleagues and a call between her office and that of Miss Clark.

But the damage had been done, creating an image of uncertainty for the Greens as they attempted to portray themselves as ready to participate in Government.

Miss Clark said such ultimatums would bring "implications" in Labour's campaign against Ms Fitzsimons for the Coromandel seat.

"Obviously any threat like that simply redoubles our determination to go for a majority government," she said. "Were the Greens to declare outright war on Labour, there are implications.

"When you're told that a party that aspires to hold the balance of power, like the Greens, doesn't even want to let a government get started – that's a fairly stunning thing to say."

She hoped Ms Fitzsimons's retraction meant that the Greens were not yet declaring war, and she would continue to advise Coromandel voters to make their own decisions on whether they should vote for the Labour candidate or for Ms Fitzsimons.

National Party leader Bill English said the Greens simply did not know what they were doing, and Labour was being "slippery" by not committing to campaigning against Ms Fitzsimons.

He had initially suggested National would consider extending the moratorium but last night firmed up his position with a fairly solid "no" to any extension of the moratorium.

Mr English said the Greens' actions showed that they could not be believed. "It's going to be impossible for the Left to provide stable government," he said.

Without the Greens, a Labour-Progressives minority government would be forced to rely on NZ First, whose leader Winston Peters yesterday called the Greens "New Zealand's worst nightmare".

Ms Fitzsimons made the threat – something she had been considering for several days – after a debate on genetic modification in Wellington yesterday with Science Minister Pete Hodgson.

She said her view was that the Greens would want a policy agreement from Labour to extend the moratorium, before offering support for votes on supply and confidence.

"What we said initially was that there would be nothing preventing us from giving confidence to a minority Labour government while that moratorium was in place.

"But given that Labour is now turning that into its own words – which is all about bringing a government down – I actually wonder whether it would be much more sensible to not let it form in the first place, rather than be accused of bringing it down."

8 posted on 07/03/2002 2:41:37 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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Keep us updated Shag. IF NZ can elect a conservative government, it may be a nicer place to hang (Not that it isn't now...heheh).
9 posted on 07/03/2002 6:30:27 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: shaggy eel
Best of luck, Kiwis!
10 posted on 07/03/2002 6:33:43 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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Hey Shags - great thread!

I've been thinking about vote splitting - but I don't think much of the National candidate here - you'd know who's running for Act here in Palmy wouldn't ya?

12 posted on 07/03/2002 8:53:00 PM PDT by New Zealander
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Mornin' Shag,

Thanks for the update. Keep us posted.
13 posted on 07/04/2002 4:15:07 AM PDT by NH Liberty
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To: shaggy eel
Check this out!


Secret plan to double petrol price
http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/ind ex/0,1008,1258018a10,FF.html
14 posted on 07/04/2002 11:30:03 AM PDT by New Zealander
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To: Bob J; NH Liberty; StoneColdGOP
,,, guys, thanx for your good wishes! You bet I'll keep stuff posted. One fact for you - this will definitely be one of the more interesting elections of recent years in New Zealand.

Hope the 4th of July is going just fine for you all.

15 posted on 07/04/2002 1:40:58 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: curiouskiwi
ACT will get my party vote this time.

,,, you beauty! In all seriousness, you have no other choice as a New Zealander. Why? If you're doing the standard rate of intake of all the blurb, or better, you'll agree that ACT is really the only Party offering a vision to move us ahead.

Why am I so passionate about this? Because, having lived in NZ since I was born I know this country's potential and I know the people are adaptive to change - it's been proven over the last 15+ years.

Love Winston's delivery on his favoured platforms but he ain't saying enough about the economy for my vote. ACT it is!

16 posted on 07/04/2002 1:47:05 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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...can't get rescued next time your airport workers are on strike.

I got stranded in Auckland about 15 years ago because of the firefighters going on strike. I wanted to go
sightseeing up north till it was resolved, my fiance wanted to stick around so we could get on the first plane
out to Tahiti. Neither got what we wanted :-).

Well, she got to stick around Auckland waiting. We never made it to Tahiti.

17 posted on 07/04/2002 1:55:49 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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I hereby declare this thread a nuclear-free zone!
18 posted on 07/04/2002 2:00:27 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Calvin Locke
,,, Auckland's changed a lot over the last 15 years; it's quite cosmopoltan now. I used to only catch planes out from there but I got married in February and my new wife has relatives there, so I spend more time on the ground there now. If I had to, I could live there.
19 posted on 07/04/2002 2:07:11 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Timesink
,,, do you have anything to confirm or deny?
20 posted on 07/04/2002 2:08:15 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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