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Fatties bite back
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | June 23, 2002 | David Wastell in Washington

Posted on 06/23/2002 8:57:39 AM PDT by xsysmgr

Sondra Solovay weighs just over 21 stones [294 lb]. She could be in better shape. But last week there was no time to worry about a distinct lack of pace as she attempted a headlong dash across an airport in southern California.

Miss Solovay was late for her Southwest Airlines flight home to Oakland, near San Francisco. The Ivy-League educated lawyer, who had just addressed a civil rights conference, needed to get to her office for an important meeting with a client later that day.

When she reached the airline's ticket desk she was out of breath, on time and rather proud of the achievement. Then, to her astonishment, Miss Solovay discovered that size mattered after all.

Two days earlier, Southwest Airlines had happily flown her to California. Now she was told that because she was so "large", she could not travel unless she bought a second seat. Otherwise she would "encroach on the space" of the passenger next to her.

The language was politically correct but the message was clear: Miss Solovay might be able to reach surprising speeds when negotiating an airport concourse, but she was still too fat to be treated as an ordinary passenger.

Outraged and desperate, Miss Solovay produced money for two seats. But two places together could not be found on the flight, nor on subsequent ones that day. She would have to wait for her seats.

Miss Solovay might be bulky of body, but she possesses a sharp and trained lawyer's mind. As she sat waiting at the airport (taking up only a single seat), she decided that it was time for the fat to fight back.

She is now among a group of American lawyers considering a class-action lawsuit against airlines - not just Southwest - for what they believe to be unconstitutional discrimination against the overweight. Southwest Airlines may live to regret the day they tried to keep her off their aircraft.

"It's an issue of fundamental civil rights when people are prevented from travelling because of their personal attributes," Miss Solovay said. "There needs to be an effective legal challenge to this kind of policy. The time has come to fight back on this, and on other fronts."

Across the United States, large Americans are responding to the call. One of Miss Solovay's clients could be another Californian, Steve McAllister. Mr McAllister, a former college football player, is 6ft 2in tall and weighs 25 stones [350 lb].

Once he was a fearsome sight for opponents on the playing fields of California. As his athletic bulk has turned to flab, he is now seen as a danger only to fellow-users of public transport.

When the software executive tried to buy an extra ticket from Southwest for a short flight from Sacramento airport ten days ago, he was told that he was a "safety hazard" to other passengers.

This week the airline will impose a nationwide policy requiring all fat people on all flights to pay for two seats. The policy was applied to Mr McAllister in advance. Although Southwest eventually relented, he is in no doubt that next time he will be charged double. In a spirited show of defiance, Mr McAllister inquired whether he would gain air miles for his second ticket. The answer was no. Like Miss Solovay, he believes it is time for the fat to fight back.

"Size is a phobia here in the States," he said. "Some employers have told me I would not be good executive material because of my size. We are considered to be dumber, sloppier, messier. People think, if you can't even get your weight down to an acceptable level, how can you expect to be able to run a business? Well, I've managed to do pretty well. These people are morons."

Perhaps because of his former status as a college football hero, Mr McAllister's experience made headlines across America. With tongues firmly in cheeks, commentators talked earnestly about "spatial profiling". Others opted for cruder references to "jumbo jet-setters". The perennial question is back on everyone's lips: are fat people to blame for their condition?

Even President Bush has joined the fray. Mr Bush no longer drinks alcohol and goes jogging almost every day. He shows no hint of flab. Launching a national fitness campaign and urging the 61 per cent of Americans who suffer from obesity to take more exercise, Mr Bush said last week: "If you're interested in improving America, you can do so by taking care of your own body."

The sense that the problems of the obese are self-inflicted is pervasive. Legislators in many states are now taking action which may nip the fat fightback in the bud. Foods blamed for American obesity are being targeted remorselessly. Californian senators are proposing taxes on sweet fizzy drinks; schools are being instructed to stop serving pizza; lawyers are assessing the prospects for class-action lawsuits against fast-food chains such as McDonald's and Burger King.

David Satcher, America's Surgeon-General, whose anti-smoking warnings appear on cigarette packets, announced a "call to action" to reduce obesity last December. Restaurants are being encouraged to slim down their portions - an approach which critics say retraces the first steps of the long war against tobacco.

The problems of those who, like Miss Solovay and Mr McAllister, are already overweight, are either ignored or laughed at. Alleged diets of fast food washed down with Coca-Cola and lazy days spent on the sofa in front of the television inspire little sympathy. The way of life is seen as unprepossessing, self-indulgent and self-inflicted. No one is therefore overly surprised to hear that fat people are discriminated against at work, more likely to lose a custody battle over a child, and less likely to be selected as jurors.

The obese are also likely to earn less: according to one study published by a medical journal last year, fat women earn on average $6,710 (£4,503) less than their slimmer peers, even after allowing for educational and other factors.

In such a hostile environment, the fat fightback will not be easy. It is beginning with the F-word itself. A string of lobby groups are being set up on behalf of men and women who are proud to be "fat". Short and succinct, the word is preferable to "overweight", "oversize" or even plain "obese", according to Allen Steadman, the director of the International Size Acceptance Association: "Fat is what it is, so why call it anything else?"

Representatives of the airline industry have been summoned to an annual convention of fat people in August. There they will be asked to explain why special seating rows cannot be fitted for larger passengers. Hair salons and medical offices are being urged to provide gowns big enough for fat people. "One size definitely does not fit all," said one campaigner.

The list of fat action areas is being constantly extended. Car manufacturers are being pressed to supply seat-belt extenders as a matter of course to their larger customers - at present they are only required by law to install belts suitable for people up to 215lb (15.3 stones) in weight.

Then there are the loos. "Sometimes toilets are not fortified enough," said Mr Steadman. "Sometimes they hang off the wall, and they have been known to break."

Once the F-word has been fully re-claimed, and the state legislatures reformed, the biggest battle will begin. Fat people are preparing to contest the view that they are responsible for their own condition.

Miss Solovay is a vegetarian who insists that she eats carefully and eschews fizzy drinks. "I've been oversize since I was 11," she said. "I haven't eaten meat since then. I don't eat fries or fast food - in fact my eating is better than an average American. And it's important to exercise. You can be fat and be fit."

Mr McAllister works more than 60 hours a week, avoids red meat and says he is on a low calory diet. "My blood pressure and cholesterol levels are fine, I pay attention to what I eat and I certainly haven't got this way from sitting on my backside drinking beer. I am fitter than many people who are thin," he said.

Maryanne Bodolay, 46, the administrator of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, weighs 25 stones. She said: "I'm a big girl because I am genetically programmed to be so - and, I believe, because I started dieting when I was young. It's the yo-yo syndrome: you lose weight, then you put more on. My sister weighs 125lb [8st 13lb], and she can eat me under the table."

There is no evidence, say some researchers, that fat people really do eat more than others - and ample evidence that dieting rarely works in the long term. "Research shows that people who diet do lose weight, but 95 per cent regain it over a five-year period," said Joanne Ikeda, the co-director of the Centre for Weight and Health at the Berkeley campus of the University of California.

Fat people know that they face a long campaign to persuade their fellow Americans to regard them differently. Fat will never be the new black. However, Miss Solovay insisted: "Some day this will be seen for what it is: the next stage in the struggle for civil rights."



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To: Chad Fairbanks
Many, many years ago I was flying back home and had the middle seat between 2 men who weren't particularly overweight but were big men. I'm 5'3" and weighed around 120# at that time. I never considered myself claustrophobic but at one point I couldn't get my breath and felt panicky and got up and spent some time standing back by the stewardess area to shake it.

From then on, I never chose a window or middle seat again - always aisle. One never knows who will be on either side of you or blocking you by the window.

141 posted on 06/23/2002 12:42:02 PM PDT by 3catsanadog
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To: Bogey78O
It's "Jet Blue" all Airbus Fleet.
142 posted on 06/23/2002 12:46:12 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: eaglewatch
I actually saw a tall slim young woman of about 22, get out of the drivers seat of a car with a handicapped sticker on it & RUN into the store. It must have been someone else's car but they were not there. In Houston there are handicapped spaces everywhere & I have never seen them all full, anywhere.
143 posted on 06/23/2002 12:54:17 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: glorygirl
There IS a way to resolve these problems without cruelty, and without treating ANY of their passengers unfairly.

So, are you going to pay for them to rip thousands of good seats out, to install wider ones, thus causing ticket prices to go up because wider seats means fewer seats per flight? Or, are those who took control of their fat bodies (myself included) going to have to take up the costs via price hikes?

For any fat bodies out there, who are truly determined and willing to do the hard work for the rest of their lives, buy the book by Bill Phillips, titled, "Body for Life." You won't regret it.

144 posted on 06/23/2002 12:55:38 PM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: ZOOKER
"Note that first class has 4 seats per row, coach has six.

Here's your solution, Sondra: fly first class."

Of course the same thing goes for all the pencil necked geeks I see posting around here...

145 posted on 06/23/2002 1:08:08 PM PDT by Gigantor
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To: xsysmgr
There is really a very simple solution, although it will not work with Southwest Airlines, which has single class seating.

First off, the airlines need to create a "standard seat," much the same way that is used to limit the size of carry-on luggage. If someone is too large to fit into the seat, or spills over excessivly, they will not be allowed to sit in the standard seating areas.

If someone is too large for the standard seats, they can either 1) upgrade to First Class, which has larger, wider seats, 2) Pay for two standard class seats, or 3) get a refund on the ticket, and take a bus or train. If they're unhappy with the seating on an airplane, wait till they get on a bus for 31 hours!

As was mentioned, since airlines are limited in the number of seats that each airplane has, if a passenger uses more than one seat, they should be required to pay for the additional seat.

However, traditionally, extra seats used by children or musicians (for large instruments, like cellos, basses or large guitars) were charged a reduced fair for the extra seat... I don't know if that's still the case, but that's how it used to be.

Mark
146 posted on 06/23/2002 1:14:37 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: ditto h
I believe this may wind up biting Southwest in the butt. Right now, someone is probably thinking of starting an airline with larger, more comfortable seats that will serve all people better. If "fat" people cannot fly on existing airlines, they will still be able to get from A to B in style.

There already are... A great example is Midwest Express, where every seat is "first class!" A wonderful airline, and not that much more expensive than the others.

Mark

147 posted on 06/23/2002 1:22:03 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: Freedom4US
What a less than intelligent comment. Likely trained at the the knee of a pompous we-know-better liberal.

Here's an idea: perhaps they should reduce fares for those with higher IQ's, as they might be better able to respond should there be an emergency. You would probably pay full fare. Here's hoping you get squashed between two fatties the next time you're on board.

149 posted on 06/23/2002 1:41:04 PM PDT by Osinski
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To: Humidston
I propose ALL lawyers should automatically be charged for two seats - due to the fact that their heads are so large and full of %&#$#.

Now you're talking.

150 posted on 06/23/2002 1:42:22 PM PDT by Osinski
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To: rodeocowboy
"So, are you going to pay for them to rip thousands of good seats out, to install wider ones, thus causing ticket prices to go up"

Well, we paid when they ripped out the larger seats and put the smaller ones in. No one griped then.
151 posted on 06/23/2002 1:42:51 PM PDT by tinacart
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To: Freedom4US
Aren't you proud of yourself $%~
152 posted on 06/23/2002 1:51:05 PM PDT by restornu
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To: eaglewatch
They seem to be handing out the parking permits like popcorn. I have seen many people with valid disabled parking permits get out of a car and "briskly" walk to the store. Have no idea how they got the permit but we will soon need "wheelchair" only permits if this keeps up.

I had once gotten a temporary handicapped permit when I had a broken ankle and major knee surgery. As I was getting out of my car, a woman with a handicapped license plate started yelling at me about using "her" space. As I hopped to the rear door to get my crutches, she parked a few rows down, and promptly "power walked" right by me as I hobbled in on my crutches.

Still, if there were any spaces that weren't too far away, I'd use them instead of the handicapped spaces.

Mark

153 posted on 06/23/2002 1:52:04 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: Glenn
So sorry to jump in the fray here, but I just want to let you know that the jerks posting here have not a clue, so please don't waste your time caring about their ignorant comments. Sorry about your brother.
154 posted on 06/23/2002 1:52:09 PM PDT by Osinski
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To: Lazamataz
You never forgave your grandmother. What a lousy grandchild.
155 posted on 06/23/2002 1:53:56 PM PDT by Osinski
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To: sarasmom
I flew several times with my daughter when she was a baby.After the first round leg, where I held her on my lap,(airline approved policy) I always bought two seats, primarily for her safety, but also out of respect ...

I appreciate your considerateness of your fellow passengers. I have never sat next to these spilling-over fat people; I am not that slim but easily fit in a seat. I did, however, once have to sit in a three across row on the window with a couple who each had a child on their lap. So in a three-seat area, we had five people. They probably requested to sit together, thereby making the crowding more severe than if they had sat apart. The man was pretty tall, and of course he sat in the middle with one twin on his lap. Geesh.

156 posted on 06/23/2002 1:54:28 PM PDT by angry elephant
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To: Bogey78O; xsysmgr; cynicom
A standard airline seat is only so wide. They're not penalizing overweight people. They're charging people who are over-width.

I got a feeling it had to do with weight, for they use to charge for the weight of the Luggage now coming in the back door charging people for weight to pay for the fuel cost?

So you shrink the seat size and force those who don't comply to pay more, and you really are charging by weight!

157 posted on 06/23/2002 1:56:01 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Osinski
You never forgave your grandmother. What a lousy grandchild.

Nope. Suicide and murder are two things I cannot forgive.

158 posted on 06/23/2002 2:01:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: xsysmgr
This reminds me of something that happened to a co-worker. My company got a contract to do some training got Gateway in North Sioux City, SD, and I wound up commuting to the airport at Sioux City, IA. One time, my coworker had to make the trip for me. He's not fat, but is very BIG. I saw a photo of him next to a burned out Iraqi T-55 tank from the Gulf War, and he looked BIG next to the tank! He's about 6'8 and 350#. When he flies, he always has to fly first class. Anyway, from KC to Sioux City, Northwest flies through Minneapolis/St Paul. He flew up there with no problems, but then he had to get on a little puddle jumper to get to SUX. Well, he didn't fit on the plane! (It was a little 18 seat Fokker turbo prop). I mean that he could just barely get in the door, and he couldn't fit in any of the seats! He wound up having to get a refund on the ticket, and then rent a car!

Mark
159 posted on 06/23/2002 2:03:34 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: Tony in Hawaii
Here's a thought. I weigh about 300. If I married a little 90-pound pixie, and we flew together, would Southwest still want to charge me double,

I have had that thought, too. What if extra slims formed partnerships with extra larges and agreed to share the cost of two seats, with perhaps the small one paying for one-half seat and the large one paying for one and a half. After all, there are probably students traveling who are small and slim and would appreciate cutting their fares. Large people could post on student bulletin boards, for example, "Small person wanted to share seats to San Fran," et cetera. Of course, splitting up the food might be a point of negotiation.

160 posted on 06/23/2002 2:03:46 PM PDT by angry elephant
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