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New Zealand: You name it, we're sorry for it
The Dominion, Wellington, New Zealand | June 5 2002 | Christine Langdon

Posted on 06/05/2002 3:47:13 PM PDT by shaggy eel

New Zealand: Clark says sorry to Samoans and gays

Apologies are flowing from Prime Minister Helen Clark, with a public expression of sorrow to Samoa yesterday closely following a much-less-publicised apology to New Zealand gays and lesbians.

In a speech in the Samoan capital, Apia, yesterday morning, Miss Clark made a formal apology to Samoa for New Zealand's inept administration of the island state early last century.

She apologised for the decision by New Zealand authorities in 1918 to allow a ship carrying passengers with influenza to dock in Apia, which resulted in the deaths of 22 per cent of the Samoan population.

She also acknowledged the shootings in Apia in 1929 of non-violent protesters by New Zealand police. At least nine people died.

The apology followed a much-lower-profile expression of regret to gays and lesbians in the latest issue of gay newspaper Express.

In a candid interview with Express, Miss Clark also spoke about whispering campaigns that she is a lesbian. She offered a "personal apology . . . on behalf of the Government" for past transgressions against gays and lesbians.

"It's been disgraceful. People have put up with the most appalling discrimination, stereotyping, people have been criminalised," she told the newspaper.

A spokesman for Miss Clark confirmed the Express interview.

Express editor Victor van Wetering said the apology was a watershed for gays and lesbians.

"There has been a long silence in acknowledging the experience of queer people in New Zealand and the kind of discrimination they have had to put up with both before sexual law reform in 1986 and since then."

Labour had clearly branded itself as "the gay party", he said. It had three openly gay representatives - Georgina Beyer, Tim Barnett and Chris Carter - and its party list included three lesbian newcomers in the top 50.

"That earns them points from liberals generally, but especially from the gay and lesbian community," Mr van Wetering said.

"I think they realise that there is some political advantage to increasing the representation of queer people in Parliament."

Opening up about her personal experiences of prejudice and whispering campaigns, Miss Clark said she saw "nothing wrong" with being a lesbian.

"I am not a lesbian but some of my best friends are," she said.

"Those who do the whispering come from an ethical position that being lesbian is morally wrong. It's designed to be a smear."

Wellington expert in class actions Roger Chapman said neither apology was likely to result in suits against the Government.

He said the Samoan apology related to incidents that were too long ago and took place outside New Zealand. And the apology to the gay and lesbian community had no obvious legal ramifications.

Miss Clark has also apologised this year to New Zealand's Chinese community for the indignity and hardship of a poll tax imposed on early Chinese settlers.


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What can I say?
1 posted on 06/05/2002 3:47:14 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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FYI
2 posted on 06/05/2002 3:48:36 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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FYI
3 posted on 06/05/2002 3:49:55 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
I apologize on behalf of my country for sending the insufferable Carol Mosely-Braun to that beautiful country as U.S. ambassador.
4 posted on 06/05/2002 3:51:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: shaggy eel
Well I'm sorry about something too - that she's Prime Minister.
5 posted on 06/05/2002 3:51:26 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: shaggy eel
Am wintering here on South Island, south of Dunedin. They don't like her much in this area.
6 posted on 06/05/2002 3:52:05 PM PDT by ofMagog
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What can I say?
I'm sorry?
7 posted on 06/05/2002 3:52:17 PM PDT by Niagara
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FYI
8 posted on 06/05/2002 3:52:57 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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I've been home for the last few days, deathly ill. Today's the first day in several that I've started feeling better. BUt that's not enough. I demand a formal apology from the government of New Zealand for this illness of mine.
9 posted on 06/05/2002 3:53:33 PM PDT by general_re
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They don't like her much in this area.

You're getting close to Bill English territory in Dunedin aren't you? The rest of the country could stand to learn a few things...

10 posted on 06/05/2002 3:55:42 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: shaggy eel
Its the Age of Clinton.
11 posted on 06/05/2002 3:57:15 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Billthedrill
,,, that's OK, Mose got to go home. Trouble is, this is home for Klark - unless, of course... nah, you've got enough unwanted immigrants.
12 posted on 06/05/2002 3:57:23 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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,,, it's looking like we'll have the same problem as you did with Billy-Jeff - a double term.
13 posted on 06/05/2002 3:58:54 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Have you ever met a Kiwi who wasn't a clymer?
14 posted on 06/05/2002 3:59:20 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: general_re
,,, I've been away since Friday night - had to travel to a funeral. You're way down the apologies list, "sorry".
15 posted on 06/05/2002 4:00:52 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: gaspar
,,, sorry, not telling!
16 posted on 06/05/2002 4:03:39 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: gaspar
Kiwi and sheep. 'Nuff said.
17 posted on 06/05/2002 4:04:08 PM PDT by Drango
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Kiwi and sheep. 'Nuff said.

,,, I see you're in San Francisco. Is there a sheep exhibit at the Power Exchange?

18 posted on 06/05/2002 4:07:29 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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Sorry about your travels. But I don't need an apology from you - I need an official apology from PM Klark herself. You see, my next step is reparations.

It's brilliant - I get an official apology from the NZ government, and then I spurn it, saying something like "an apology is hardly enough for the pain and suffering I've had to endure." And then I take the apology to court as an admission of guilt, and get megabucks out of the NZ government. It's fiendishly clever, if I do say so myself...

19 posted on 06/05/2002 4:08:57 PM PDT by general_re
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,,, our dollar is firming. Do it quickly.
20 posted on 06/05/2002 4:10:23 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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