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Israel will fence off West Bank
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 06/05/2002 | Christopher Walker

Posted on 06/04/2002 4:45:36 PM PDT by Pokey78

IN AN attempt to thwart Palestinian suicide attacks, Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister, yesterday directed that a 75-mile fence be built to divide Israel from much of the occupied West Bank.

The fence will run from Kafr Salem, southeast of Haifa, near the biblical location known as Megiddo or Armageddon, to Kafr Kassem, not far from the Tel Aviv suburb of Petah Tikvah, which was the target of the most recent of 70 suicide attacks in the past 21 months.

Construction will take one year and will cost more than £68 million. The fence will follow the so-called Green Line, the unmarked boundary that separates Israel proper from the West Bank, but at some points it will veer east and cut through the West Bank. Palestinians said that 11 Palestinian villages would be left on the Israeli side of the barrier.

Mr Sharon’s decision coincided with talks between Yassir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, and George Tenet, the CIA Director, in the West Bank town of Ramallah. Mr Tenet proposed that Mr Arafat combine his sprawling security empire into only three services rather than the dozen it now has, officials said.

Signalling its deepening involvement in the search for Middle East peace, Washington announced that Mr Sharon had been invited to the White House for talks with President Bush next week.

President Mubarak of Egypt will meet Mr Bush later this week and press him to back the early creation of a Palestinian state. Mr Mubarak, who is anxious to return to the centre of regional peacemaking efforts, told The New York Times that he was prepared to visit Israel if he were sure that it would help to clinch an agreement.

The fence, which Mr Sharon had previously resisted in case it was seen as delineating Israel’s final boundary offer in any negotiations, will be part of a larger series of barriers along the Green Line being prepared by the Defence Ministry and will be patrolled by the Israeli Army and the paramilitary border police.

The nature of the fence will vary, depending on assessed degree of risk. In some places it will be heavy concrete, designed to stop any vehicle; in others it will be a wire-and-post construction, backed with electronic sensors.

It was proposed by Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, the Israeli Defence Minister, and its main aim will be to protect vulnerable areas of concentrated Jewish population from Palestinian suicide terrorists.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: goodfence; israel; securitybarrier
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1 posted on 06/04/2002 4:45:36 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Fence, hell they need a concrete wall.
2 posted on 06/04/2002 4:46:21 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
...with razor wire.
3 posted on 06/04/2002 4:50:09 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Pokey78
It's about time they did this. It's a real shame it has to be this way, but since the Palestinian people can't seem to do anything about the murderers in their midst, this seems the only reasonable solution.
4 posted on 06/04/2002 4:54:34 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Pokey78
A "Megiddo-not" Line?

I'm dubious; didn't work for the French. (Yes, circumstances are different, threat is different, but I'm still dubious...)

5 posted on 06/04/2002 4:55:26 PM PDT by Eala
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To: Texaggie79
I vote for a moat filled with starving alligators.
6 posted on 06/04/2002 5:00:18 PM PDT by mseltzer
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To: Pokey78
Following the model of the Romans in fencing off Scotland and Wales. They didn't just put up a picket fence either, it was substantial earthworks with vertical oaken logs. Went up quickly, eliminated most of the problem right away. Apparently the Roman patrol could hear barbarian growls from the other side of the barrier, but taking out a couple posts to breach the wall was more work than barbarians can do quietly, so all in all it did work.
7 posted on 06/04/2002 5:02:13 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: McGavin999
This is the first step to peace, defined borders, for both Israelis and Palestinians. Now, continue to go after the bombers and leave the bulldozers home.
8 posted on 06/04/2002 5:02:54 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: Eala
A "Megiddo-not" Line? I'm dubious; didn't work for the French.

I doubt that the Israelis will leave their left flank in the air as the French did.

9 posted on 06/04/2002 5:06:11 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: McGavin999
Sharon is finally drawing a line in the sand.
10 posted on 06/04/2002 5:11:11 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Pokey78
Half assed solution. The solution is to define the defendable borders with a complete wall along the West Bank. The Wall should not run along the Green line. Instead it should include those areas Israel wants. At that point, negotiations over land are over and the PAlestinians can either accept it or blow themselves to bits trying to infiltrate.
11 posted on 06/04/2002 5:29:54 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: Eala
It works well with Gaza which is essentially walled off.
No defensive measure is perfect. Given a willingness to take enough casualies any defense can be overcome. The Wall will minimise attacks, while maximising the harm to the Islamists. .

The real difficulty is, after walling off the border with the PA, how does Israel patrol the border between Jordan and Arafatistan?
The border between Egypt and Gaza is already hard to defend.

12 posted on 06/04/2002 5:35:43 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew
I like your solution, now I know where there are som east german engineers who have had some reall experience in being good neighbors.
13 posted on 06/04/2002 5:38:35 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: rmlew
It works well with Gaza which is essentially walled off.

Thanks for the info.

I confess I'm not thoroughly up on the situation -- but I remember even the Berlin Wall was inadequate against even unfunded determineds, not to mention American prison escapees...

14 posted on 06/04/2002 5:42:53 PM PDT by Eala
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To: dts32041
I like your solution, now I know where there are som east german engineers who have had some reall experience in being good neighbors.

I take it that if Mexicans were once again shooting up the southwest, you would hold that borders should be open?
If you are sane, you would say no. Now apply the logic to Israel.

15 posted on 06/04/2002 6:11:07 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: Eala
I confess I'm not thoroughly up on the situation -- but I remember even the Berlin Wall was inadequate against even unfunded determineds, not to mention American prison escapees...

Put up a minefield and guard towers. This will reduce incursions.
Again, no defense is perfect.

16 posted on 06/04/2002 6:12:41 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew
I agreed with your solution, Jut thought I would suggest some people who know how to build walls, thats all.

As far as Mexico aggression towards the US, the border should have been sealed in 1916.

17 posted on 06/04/2002 6:14:39 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: Eala
but I remember even the Berlin Wall was inadequate against even unfunded determineds, not to mention American prison escapees...

Aye, keep in mind though, how many people would've crossed had there been no wall at all. Also, many people died trying to get across the wall. Although these were people tying to gain freedom, for the purposes of argument try to imagine each one who died as a pontential terrorist bent on murder.

A barrier, I think is a logical place to start. Personally, I would also build one around each Palestinian city, town, village- hell maybe around each house... But that's just me.

18 posted on 06/04/2002 6:23:38 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: McGavin999
This is a very smart move by Israel. May I suggest another move which I think should also be employed by America along all our open borders. Tall towers placed at equal distances and manned with personnel and equipment that can spot illegals accurately trying to enter illegally.
19 posted on 06/04/2002 8:01:39 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Pokey78
There have been many instances of tunneling under.  How can they prevent that?
20 posted on 06/04/2002 8:27:25 PM PDT by 2sheep
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