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Posted on 05/21/2002 7:06:49 PM PDT by RCW2001

U.S. blames Israel

By Eli J. Lake
UPI State Department Correspondent
From the International Desk
Published 5/21/2002 5:11 PM
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WASHINGTON, May 21 (UPI) -- The United States on Tuesday said Israel's "destruction of the Palestinian Authority's security infrastructure" was partly responsible for Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's failure to control extremists.

According to the State Department's latest report on "Patterns of Global Terrorism" -- the first to be published since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington -- Israeli military attacks on West Bank cities and targeted strikes against Palestinian police stations and security establishments undermined Arafat's ability to arrest extremists and restore order.

The report echoes the Palestinian Authority's own complaints that the Israeli strategy of shelling prisons and police stations and forcing the Palestinian security organizations into disarray had made it more difficult to arrest and hold militant Palestinians.

"Israel's destruction of the Palestinian Authority's security infrastructure contributed to the ineffectiveness of the PA," the report says. "Significantly reduced Israeli-PA security cooperation and a lax security environment allowed Hamas and other groups to rebuild terrorist infrastructure in the Palestinian territories."

Meanwhile, the State Department said Tuesday it believed Palestinian documents seized by the Israelis in West Bank raids last month are authentic, but differed with the Israeli authorities on their interpretation.

"We don't have any question about the authenticity of those documents," Ambassador Francis X. Taylor, the State Department's Coordinator for Counterterrorism, told reporters Tuesday.

He made the comment when asked specifically about one document the Israelis said was in Arafat's handwriting authorizing funding for Tanzim, the militant wing of the Palestinian Liberation Organization Fatah organization, and for the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade.

The State Department has designated al-Aqsa as a foreign terrorist organization.

Documents captured by Israel and made available to journalists last month show detailed memos the Israelis said were from top Palestinian intelligence officials on the activities of terrorist cells operating in the territories.

The Israelis say the documents are a paper trail showing that Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and the top levels of the Palestinian Authority had direct links to militant attacks on Israelis in the intifada, or uprising.

Senior Palestinian officials, including Arafat, have denounced the documents as forgeries. Taylor's statement was the first indication that the State Department regards them as genuine.

However, Taylor said the State Department reserves judgment on whether the documents implicate Arafat or the Palestinian Authority's senior leadership.

This view is in line with the State Department's latest periodic report on Palestinian compliance with the commitments in peace agreements with Israel.

The report released last week, and covering a six-month period ending last December, said, "there is no conclusive evidence that senior leaderships of the (Palestinian Authority) or PLO were involved in planning or approving specific acts of violence."

Taylor stressed that the State Department was "continuing to examine these documents."


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To: Aleksandar Vojvoda
Are you referring to Jewish attempted attacks on Palestinian schoolgirls with Israeli Army-issued explosives?

Attacks? I remember only one. I was referring to the month of april, specifically when IDF was in the west bank. My post clearly indicated that. Do you have problems comprehending?

If you are referring to Hamas and Al-Aqsa suicide bombers,my recollection would be that as this IDF/West Bank activity escalated the suicide bombings increased,eye for an eye,right?

Nope. When IDF was in the west bank there were like no attacks.... You have a faulty memory.

BTW,what do you think of the story in the RH column titled,'State Dept Report:Weakening of PA Icreased Terror Attacks on Israel'.I guess there you have it in a nutshell,don't you?

State dept is very arabist. Its not secret. Face the facts. Prior to arafat there were NO SUICIDE BOMBINGS.. It all began AFTER the palestinian authority was established. Kind of like the state dept pressured Israel to withdraw from west bank and then turned around and a week later issued a report that Israel's military can't solve anything. Our state dept has no credibility with me.

21 posted on 05/21/2002 7:39:27 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: isthisnickcool
I met a Palestinian man the other day, he said he was born in Egypt.

Did you ask him where his parents and grandparents were born and why they had to leave? That's usually a question I ask and the stories are usually pretty interesting. Then again, if you buy into the BS that there is no such person as a Palestinian why bother to ask and be enlightened.

22 posted on 05/21/2002 7:49:31 PM PDT by hangin' chad
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To: hangin' chad
Did you ask him where his parents and grandparents were born and why they had to leave? That's usually a question I ask and the stories are usually pretty interesting.

Hmm. Good point. I'll have to tell some of my African-American friends to ponder this and that they will see that they are owed their land back in Africa. And if they don't get it they might consider strapping on some explosives and.....

23 posted on 05/21/2002 8:02:00 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: Diogenesis
What is the chain of command in the US State Dept? We KNOW they support terrorists and attack researchers of alternative energy sources.

Daschle and Lieberman killed ANWR. Democrats oppose nearly all use of our natural resources. Democrats were alarmed when Chavez was overthrown and delighted when he regained power. Al Gore's pals at Occidental Petroleum just, to the amazement of others in the industry, decided not to drill in Colombia. I would not look to the State Department under Bush as the ones who want us to continue to buy oil from Saddam and the Saudis.

24 posted on 05/21/2002 8:09:51 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: BrooklynGOP
The state dept is out of touch with reality.

Understatement Alert! :-)

25 posted on 05/21/2002 8:15:53 PM PDT by Valin
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To: gcruse
"Arafat has no interest in controlling extremists."

He controls them by giving them their assignments. Arafat is a two faced liar and a coward. Any worn out old worthless bastard who encourages children and teenagers to commit suicide to support his worthless cause isn't worth the powder it would take to shoot him.

26 posted on 05/21/2002 8:33:24 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: blackbart.223
Agreed. I should have said," no interest in reining in extremists."
27 posted on 05/21/2002 8:49:35 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: RCW2001
They won't be able to shake their one world fantasy until the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. They gambled and bet on the wrong plan. When you line up with the devil, you always get burned!

Revelation 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

28 posted on 05/21/2002 9:05:21 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: RCW2001
Perhaps you might remember the stories about the Christians and the lions. Christians were given flimsy weapons by the Romans to defend themselves against wild animals. What is less known is that the Romans also featured fights between Jews and the lions, except instead of weapons, the Jews were buried up to their necks in the Coliseum ground and then told to defend themselves. One Jew managed to turn his head from side to side while an enraged lion pounced on him from one side and then the other. Finally the lion attacked the Jew from the front and as the lion came down upon the head of the Jew, the man took a hefty bite out of the lion's testicles, at which time the crowd shouted as one, "FIGHT FAIR, JEW!" Sound familiar? -- unknown author
29 posted on 05/21/2002 9:09:06 PM PDT by God-fearer
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To: gcruse
"Agreed. I should have said," no interest in reining in extremists."

Well said. I find it interesting that despots such as Hitler, Stalin and Arafat coach those that they mislead to fall on their swords when they have no intention of doing that themselves. Well Hitler killed himself, but only when he knew the jig was up and he didn't want to be taken by the Russians.

30 posted on 05/21/2002 9:11:47 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: RCW2001
Ambassador Francis X. Taylor, the State Department's Coordinator for Counterterrorism

I believe that this clymer needs to go!

32 posted on 05/21/2002 9:39:54 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
As far as the Edomite "Schoolgirls" you cited -- it's really a shame that the Israeli authorities arrested the Kach settler heros before they were able to get the job done.

I wish to go on record stating my categorical disagreement with your point of view.

33 posted on 05/22/2002 12:29:52 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: isthisnickcool
I met a Palestinian man the other day, he said he was born in Egypt. I met another, he said he was "an Arab". All the ones I've met seem to come from somewhere other than this "Palestine" country. And each of them spoke a different language. Weird eh?

I heard that Arafat himself was from Egypt also and came to Israel as a migrant worker in his youth.

34 posted on 05/22/2002 1:17:28 AM PDT by SantosLHalper
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
As far as the Edomite "Schoolgirls" you cited -- it's really a shame that the Israeli authorities arrested the Kach settler heros before they were able to get the job done. May the blood of Reb. Kahane be avenged.
Youv'e stated your position very clearly,and have thrown away any moral authority that you might have had.
35 posted on 05/22/2002 5:22:06 AM PDT by Aleksandar Vojvoda
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To: isthisnickcool
Hmm. Good point. I'll have to tell some of my African-American friends to ponder this and that they will see that they are owed their land back in Africa. And if they don't get it they might consider strapping on some explosives and.....

Yeah, kinda like when the Jews decided they needed Palestine for a homeland. Financed it with German money and blew up a few Brits and massacred lots of Palestinians on their way to creating a homeland on other people's land. Same concept. I was merely pointing out that the folks who lost their land in Palestine are not too happy about the concept. You can ignore that reality (just like ole Sharoniac), continue to steal land and live in a constant state of war or try to solve the problem. Just like with any good twelve step program you've got to start with and acknowlegement of the problem ("Hi, I'm Mordechai and I stole someone else's land"). Once you admit the problem, the solution becomes easier to attain.

36 posted on 05/22/2002 5:41:08 AM PDT by hangin' chad
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To: hangin' chad
Seems there were a few other people involved in the creation of Israel. Not just some "Jews with German money".
37 posted on 05/22/2002 6:07:21 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
it's really a shame that the Israeli authorities arrested the Kach settler heros before they were able to get the job done.

If you think people who planned to blow up children are "heroes", I really do believe you're on the wrong forum.

Let me put it another way--you suck.

38 posted on 05/22/2002 6:16:30 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
If you think people who planned to blow up children are "heroes", I really do believe you're on the wrong forum.

Amen to that.

39 posted on 05/22/2002 6:19:35 AM PDT by dighton
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To: hangin' chad
Whose land did you steal?
40 posted on 05/22/2002 6:52:09 AM PDT by tictoc
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