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Bush Chooses Clinton for East Timor Mission
USA Today ^ | 05/06/2002 | Bill Nichols

Posted on 05/07/2002 5:45:36 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Uncle Bill
The owner is one of these urban redneck mean SOB types. Beyond that, all I can surmise is that he's dumb as a brick and mean as a snake. Has had his driver's license revoked in eight of the original thirteen states. Unemployed and supports his wife and infant son with an allowance from his mother-in-law. Rumored to be distantly related to the Great Bubba. Has had dreams of being rock star for the past twenty years.
381 posted on 05/10/2002 7:24:25 PM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Uncle Bill
Bumping the RLK series.
382 posted on 05/10/2002 7:25:52 PM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Uncle Bill
Hey Uncle Bill, I was beginning to miss you and your fantastic posts. Good to see you and I'm doing well. I'll be out of the country next week, if I meet a wealthy woman, I may not return;^) In New Zealand, where I'm headed for my brother's wedding, I've been advised to focus on the woman with the most sheep.
383 posted on 05/10/2002 7:39:34 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Bill Clinton, Rock Star
384 posted on 05/10/2002 7:41:14 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Fred Mertz
"I've been advised to focus on the woman with the most sheep."

LOL! Have fun.


Kiwi

385 posted on 05/10/2002 7:46:38 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: relee; Uncle Bill
Riady and Lippo - are they in East Timor?

Uncle Bill, care to chime in?

386 posted on 05/10/2002 8:10:40 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"Riady and Lippo - are they in East Timor?"

Hi MAH!

A Little Background music: Here Here Here

MICHAEL REAGAN INTERCHANGE
"At issue in this situation is not only the patently illegal foreign contributions to a presidential election, but also the close economic and social ties to a billionaire Asian enterprise to bring in East Timor goods to America by a powerful economic entity that uses genocide and slave labor as legitimate form of global competition in the marketplace.

Timor is an island a few hundred miles north of Australia's western provinces, at the very end of the Islands once called the "Dutch East Indies" or "Spice Islands." The Portuguese established an outpost in Timor in 1586 and by 1974 the western half of the island, which had been a Dutch colony, was being administered by Indonesia. The Eastern half of the Island, then called Portuguese Timor, is about 7332 sq. mi. and had a population of about 660,000 people, most of them Catholic Christians, by 1974. Indonesian President Suharto sent troops into East Timor in 1975, and completed the take-over of the island, in spite of a United Nations Security Council resolution in April 1976 calling on Indonesia to withdraw its troops from the Island. Approximately a third of the Timorese people were slaughtered. The remaining were largely "re-settled" under military control."


"The Lippo Group is a giant conglomerate based in Jakarta, Indonesia, with interests in banking, finance and other enterprises. Its flagship, Lippo Ltd., listed $3.6 billion in assets in 1995. The firm owns only one small bank in the United States but has extensive interests in Indonesia, Hong Kong and China. It was founded by Mochtar Riady, an ethnic Chinese born in Indonesia."
Note: What's Up In Jakarta?

LIPPO GROUP

Company Profile

LIPPO BANK

LIPPO Finance

LIPPO GROUP - Just The Facts

Lippo-Suction

American International Group(AIG) LIPPO

Although 78 per cent owned by the Lippo group through the Cayman Island registered company, Lippo Cayman, Across Asia has as its shareholders such Internet heavyweights as Japan's Softbank, Hongkong's Hutchison Whampoa, red-chip concern China Resources, US-based software developer Lotus as well as a number of Middle Eastern investors.
Note: Li Ka-Shing's Growing Empire

Hutchinson Whampoa LTD.


Is that going to be enough cash Bill?
Where do you want to put it? Ok.
I'll just telll them I don't recall It always works.
The Board? Hehe, I'll think about it.

387 posted on 05/10/2002 10:23:31 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Bush Justice Department Obstructs Testimony of Chinagate Scandal Figure John Huang
"When asked if he contributed to George W. Bush’s various campaigns, he invoked the 5th Amendment"

TRANSCRIPT: Day 1 -- ROLE OF JOHN HUANG AND THE RIADY FAMILY IN POLITICAL FUNDRAISING

TRANSCRIPT: DAY 2 -- ROLE OF JOHN HUANG AND THE RIADY FAMILY IN POLITICAL FUNDRAISING

REP. BURTON: Okay. While you were at the Department of Commerce and you went over to the Stephens office, did you ever ask anybody for money in phone calls from the Stephens office?

MR. HUANG: No, sir.

REP. BURTON: You're sure?

MR. HUANG: I'm sure.

REP. BURTON: Okay. So you never made any calls that you recall. You don't recall calling the Lippo Group from the Stephens office, and you don't recall calling the Lippo Group or sending them faxes from the Stephens office.

MR. HUANG: I do not recall.

REP. BURTON: So if we find that there were phone calls -- what is this here?

STAFF: (Off mike.)

REP. BURTON: Okay.

I have here -- do we have a -- can we put this up on the board? Can I ask for five additional minutes? Without objection, so ordered.

STAFF: We don't have it -- (off mike).

REP. BURTON: We don't have this to put it up on the board?

STAFF: (Off mike.)

REP. BURTON: Okay.

We have here from September -- from July 19th, 1994, through January 30th, 1995, there must be 30 or 40 faxes going to the Lippo in Hong Kong, director of the Lippo Bank, Lippo Hong Kong, Lippo Pacific, director of the Lippo Bank, Lippo Asia Limited, Lippo Pacific. You don't recall having any involvement with any of these?

MR. HUANG: I do not recall. Let me stress that Stevens Group has some business -- they used to be a partner -- between Lippo and Stevens -- they might have some business to do.

REP. BURTON: The man in charge was a man named Vernon Weaver?

MR. HUANG: That is correct.

REP. BURTON: I intend to bring Mr. Weaver before the committee and put him under oath. Now, Mr. Weaver was there when you were there, was he not?

MR. HUANG: That's correct.

REP. BURTON: Okay, now, would he -- if I ask him if all these faxes and phone calls were from him to the Lippo Group, do you think he is going to say they were from him or somebody on his staff?

MR. HUANG: I believe he will tell the truth.

REP. BURTON: Okay, well, we'll find out. We'll get in touch with him. I'd like to make a copy of this and have it put on the record.
[THE END]

Standard operating procedure. "I Don't Recall"

I recall this:

The Stephens 'Drop'

The New York Times
07/20/97 By WILLIAM SAFIRE

July 20, 1997

ESSAY / By WILLIAM SAFIRE

The Stephens 'Drop'

WASHINGTON -- A "drop," in spookspeak, is a clandestine place to deposit and receive documents. A "dead drop" can be a hole in a tree; an ordinary drop can be an office or friend's house where an operative can leave or pick up data without the knowledge of employer or family.

John Huang's drop was conveniently across the street from his Government office. It was a room in a suite rented by Stephens Inc., part of the Little Rock financial empire from which flowed the millions in loans that saved the 1992 Clinton campaign. The Riady family of Indonesia, whose Lippo Group put Huang in a top-secret spot in the Clinton Administration, did a lot of business with Jackson Stephens.

At informative Thompson committee hearings last week, we learned that Huang, Lippo's man at Clinton Commerce, received a call on the average of twice a week from a secretary at the Stephens drop who was instructed not to leave her boss's name. Huang would then cross the street to pick up and send express packages and use the Stephens phone.

We know that Huang spoke to former Lippo associates at least 237 times in his 14 months at his sensitive trade post. "That number troubles me," said Senator Joseph Lieberman. The Connecticut Democrat was further troubled to learn that "the 237 do not include any calls made from the visitors' office at Stephens Inc."

Hard evidence that Huang spoke to the Lippo conduit to China practically every day came on top of testimony from a security-unconscious C.I.A. that Huang (whose 67 visits to the Clinton White House and 6 to the Chinese Embassy set a world record for mid-level bureaucrats) was shown raw intelligence data on 37 occasions by his personal C.I.A. "briefer."

This included a top-secret assessment of the leadership succession in China from a U.S. agent whose life would be forfeited if the raw data blew his cover.

How would you like to be a C.I.A. agent in the field whose unfiltered filing is shown to a Clintonite who talks every day to the Lippo partners of the Chinese Government?

Senator Thompson is getting traction despite John Glenn and his defensive partisans. First Glenn was suckered into Huang's immunity stunt. Next, Glenn accused Thompson of playing "loose" with F.B.I. evidence of China's penetration plan, then had to sheepishly admit his mistake.

If see-no-evil Glenn were a Republican, White House spinmeisters would Burtonize him.

The Senate's steady building of a case should shame lethargic Justice investigators. Questions:

Has the Public Integrity section of Justice obtained records from Fedex and other private mail services to determine who sent the thick envelopes delivered to Huang at his Stephens drop?

Has Justice taken all overseas and Canadian phone numbers called by Huang from his home, cell phone, Commerce and D.N.C. offices -- and matched them with all numbers dialed from the Stephens office?

Has the F.B.I. interviewed Vice President Gore about his meeting at a $300,000 Santa Monica fund-raiser on Sept. 27, 1994, with Shen Jueren, chairman of China Resources? Does Justice know that Shen was Beijing's partner with Lippo in a Hong Kong bank notorious as a front for Chinese espionage?

In that regard, Thompson released a letter from Huang effusively thanking Jack Quinn, then Gore's chief of staff, for meeting with Huang and Shen three days before that California fund-raiser.

Has the Justice Department with its 40 assigned F.B.I. agents -- eight months into its investigation -- asked Gore or Quinn about the Shen contacts?

The dismaying answer to that last one is no. Quinn tells me he remembers nothing about either meeting: "My surmise is that I just greeted them." But the stunner is that nobody has yet interviewed or deposed him about it. The forgetful Quinn, who later served as White House Counsel, has laudably not skipped the country or taken the Fifth -- but investigators leave him unquestioned.

Where is all this leading? Here's my theory: for five years, money from Asia has been flowing into the Clinton campaigns, and for five years, information and policy accommodations have been flowing out of the Clinton Administration to Asian governments.

As money moved from the East and data moved from the West, Lippo -- with its operatives in Washington, Little Rock, Jakarta and Hong Kong -- was the broker, the middleman or, in intelligence lingo, the "cutout."

Senate Cites Stephens, Fong Meeting
Huang & Stephens Inc., Back In The Thompson Hearings
Webster Hubbell - Missy Kelly
Lippo Group Connections - Missy Kelly

TRANSCRIPT: DAY 3 -- ROLE OF JOHN HUANG AND THE RIADY FAMILY IN POLITICAL FUNDRAISING


You think they'll ever
figure this out? No, you kiddin man.

388 posted on 05/10/2002 11:18:40 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
HARKEN ENERGY - George W. Bush Disregarded Federal Statutes - U.S. Securities and Exchange Records

Jackson Stephens: The Father of WTI
"Jackson Stephens was close to Jimmy Carter and several people in his cabinet and coterie of political cronies. But Jack Stephens is also well known for playing both sides of the fence. In 1991, Jackson Stephens contributed $100,000 to the Republican Party for Bush's presidential campaign, and Stephens Inc. "kicked in another $100,000." Stephens wife was the Arkansas co-chairman of the Bush for President campaign. (Wall Street Journal, December 6, 1991.) He and his wife were hosts to the Inaugural party for President Bush in 1989. (New York Times, Ma, 8, 1992.) In addition, Stephens brokered the deal that allowed the Union Bank of Switzerland (as mentioned above, a BCCI-connected bank, that also financed and ultimately owns the WTI incinerator project) to rescue a Harken Energy project that George Bush Jr. (son of President Bush) was involved with in 1987. When Harken needed help, Stephens was there. A meeting in Little Rock was set up "between Harken officials and Jackson Stephens that produced an unusual rescue plan. Mr. Jack obtained a $25 million cash infusion for Harken from Union Bank of Switzerland, which rarely invested in small American companies (The American Spectator, October, 1992)."

...In August 1977, Stephens arrived on the scene and introduced Indonesian business tycoon Mochtar Riady to Bert Lance. At the time, Riady was set to buy Lance's 200,000 plus shares of National Bank of Georgia stock (Associated Press, August 20, 1977).

That evidently didn't happen though. Instead, Stephens and Riady bought a bank in Hong Kong. Later Stephens would invite Riady to invest in a Little Rock, Arkansas bank called Worthen as well. In the meantime, Stephens found a new buyer for Lance's NGB stock. In December, 1977, Stephens introduced Lance to Agha Hasan Abedi (the founder of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International -BCCI). According to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, they discussed the possibility that Abedi purchase the stock of Financial General Bankshares (later called First American Bankshares) held by Lance, Stephens and others and concocted a plan to take over Lance's stock of the National Bank of Georgia U.S. SEC v Lance et. al.). The SEC found out about the plan and sought a restraining order to prevent a foreign bank from taking over a U.S. bank. Years later it would be revealed that Abedi and accomplise Gaith Pharoan went right ahead anyway succeeding with the takeover in 1982 (Corporate Crime Reporter, July 22, 1991). Abedi used frontman Gaith Pharoan to act as his intermediary, taking over Lance's stake in the National Bank of Georgia for BCCI. In 1990, BCCI was convicted of money laundering for the Columbian Cocaine Cartels in Miami. In 1991, BCCI collapsed and millions of investors in 73 countries lost their life savings. (A Full Service Bank, Adams & Frantz, 1992). According to the Wall Street Journal, "BCCI represents the biggest bank robbery in history... (January 18, 1994)." And that BCCI was a "$10 billion or so" heist. (Wall Street Journal, October 28, 1994.)

On February 7, 1992, New York Post reporter, Mike McAlary reported that Jackson Stephens "brokered the 1970s deals in which BCCI officials secretly acquired control of two American banks... The banks -First American Bankshares and the National Bank of Georgia were used as a financial clearinghouse by a collection of [the] world's most dastardly crooks, drug dealers, dictators and spies....and yet Stephens' ties to principals in the scandal continue to this day....Lance and Stephens are reported to have made a fortune as a result of their involvement with BCCI."

Chao has biz ties to Lippo Group

Who is Elaine Chao?
"Chao serves as director of an insurance company that jointly owns a Lippo Group subsidiary with the Chinese government. Lippo is controlled by the Riady family and is at the center of the Chinagate fund-raising scandal.

McConnell has received a steady stream of campaign contributions from Lippo partner American International Group, chaired by Greenberg."

McConnell's belated dirty-money discovery - Huang told Congress in 1999 that donation to senator was illegal

Bush administration mum on Chao's role - Labor secretary on first-name basis with President Jiang Zemin


Stephens Inc. has agreed to pay $6.5 million to settle "pay-to-play" charges that the Little Rock brokerage firm paid bribes to obtain lucrative municipal bond business in Florida

Inaugural To Lack Stephens Inc. Presence But Not Money

ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE By Kevin Freking
January 18, 2001

WASHINGTON -- Exclusive parties and receptions are planned for the biggest donors to the presidential inaugural, but officials at Stephens Inc. don't plan to be among the revelers, even though the Little Rock investment company gave the maximum allowable, $100,000, to help underwrite the celebration.

Warren Stephens, the company's president and chief executive officer, is "not aware of all that's being done, because he's not coming to any of it," Stephens spokesman Frank Thomas said.

Nor is anybody else with the company planning to attend, but Thomas will go to some smaller events specifically tied to Arkansas, such as the Arkansas State Society ball tonight and a reception Arkansas' U.S. Sen. Tim Hutchinson is having before the swearing-in Saturday.

Thomas said Stephens Inc. made its inaugural donation because Warren Stephens "agrees philosophically with George W. Bush's positions. He hopes the new president will work to reduce taxes to keep the economy strong, as well as support free trade and NAFTA."

Stephens Group gave another $215,000 to the Republican Party during the 1999-2000 election cycle, Federal Election Commission records show.

The exclusive events for top inaugural donors include a candlelight dinner tonight with those who have been nominated to serve in the president-elect's Cabinet. Guests will take home crystal candleholders bearing the inaugural seal. On Friday, a smaller reception with the president-elect is scheduled at the Library of Congress.

America Online, Archer-Daniels-Midland, Dow Chemical, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae) and Major League Baseball were among the $100,000 contributors. PepsiCo Chairman Roger Enrico gave $100,000 in the name of PepsiCo and $100,000 in the name of FritoLay, a subsidiary, successfully one-upping the $100,000 given by Barclay T. Resler, who is in charge of government relations for Coca-Cola.

Some groups, such as Common Cause, a Washington organization that focuses on campaign-finance reform, have been critical of the way this year's private inaugural events are being underwritten.

"The initial list of donors to the Presidential Inaugural Committee confirms our worst fears about the potential for the inauguration to become yet another opportunity for wealthy corporate honchos to be able to purchase face time with the next president and vice president," said Scott Harshbarger, president of Common Cause.

"This kind of fund raising shows that the very low standards set by the outgoing administration have become institutionalized and that President-elect Bush is taking a pass on a valuable opportunity to change the way business is done in Washington."

The inaugural committee's goal is $30 million, which will pay for such events as the "Concert Celebrating America's Youth" and "Laura Bush Celebrates America's Authors." The goal is based on what was raised for prior inaugurals, said Michele Stember, a spokesman for the committee.

Stember said Bush will spend some extra time with the biggest donors but many of them are longtime friends of his.

Stephens Inc. was the only Arkansas company listed among the big donors, and other Arkansas connections to the inauguration are few.

H. Lee Scott, president and chief executive officer of Wal-Mart Inc., was among the 36 business executives invited to meet with Bush in Austin earlier this month.

And Lee Colwell, director of the University of Arkansas' Criminal Justice Institute and the National Center for Rural Law Enforcement, is among the advisers to the transition team.

Colwell, a former associate director of the FBI, said Wednesday that he's among 15 to 20 people advising on law enforcement and the criminal justice system. The group has not met, but, individually, members have been asked to review matters that need to be addressed by the attorney general, as well as issues the president may need to know about.

An example Colwell offered was whether there should be a "terrorism czar," somebody at the Department of Justice whose sole responsibility would be to assess the threat of terrorism and the country's competency to respond.
[End of Transcript]

Call her ChiFi
"In January 1996, just a few weeks after Blum had coffee with President Clinton, he and Feinstein visited Beijing again. But this time they got an upgrade in accommodations, dining in Mao's old home and spending the night there. They were the first foreigners allowed to see Mao's bedroom."


389 posted on 05/11/2002 12:53:36 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5
BTTT
390 posted on 05/11/2002 2:43:31 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: B. Ireland
BTTT
391 posted on 05/11/2002 11:08:07 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Clinton Still Rejects Bush Election Victory


392 posted on 05/11/2002 11:25:59 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: doug from upland
I do fear losing one election --- to Hillary Clinton. ... snip ... You know very well there is nothing she would not do for power.

Then do something about her NOW. Investigate and prosecute democRATS involved in the crimes that she and her husband, and their democRAT friends, committed the last nine years. Nothing will destroy her chances of reelection or becoming President as surely as the judicial process exposing the lies we were told about what happened in the death of Foster, her involvement in Filegate and the TRUE scope and purpose of that effort, her husband and parties involvement in the death of Brown and the subsequent coverup, the fact that her party illegally took millions of dollars from Riady (that's Communist China) and never returned them despite publically claiming to have done so, and so on and so on. If Bush and the GOP are not willing to even investigate these serious allegations, then I don't trust them AT ALL. Frankly, in that case, I'd rather have the democRATS in the Oval Office so that conservatives are mobilized to defend our Constitution, rather then let the Republicans become just like the democRATS and do the job of destroying it for them.

393 posted on 05/11/2002 11:37:35 AM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: Uncle Bill
You rock, Uncle Bill!!!!!!
394 posted on 05/11/2002 8:43:45 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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