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Ray questions truthfulness in a parting shot at the one Clinton still in public office
AP ^ | March 21, 2002 | Pete Yost

Posted on 03/20/2002 11:24:32 PM PST by Cultural Jihad

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) The final report on the Whitewater investigation questions the truthfulness of the one Clinton who is still in public office, the Democratic senator from New York.

Independent Counsel Robert Ray's report Wednesday concluded that the Clintons' mid-1980s Arkansas land venture benefited from criminal activity and that the president and first lady gave factually inaccurate testimony, but there was not enough evidence to prove the former first family engaged in wrongdoing.


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1 posted on 03/20/2002 11:24:32 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Reasonable doubt." Depends on one's interpretation's of "reasonable" and "doubt". To this juror it means: "GUITLY"!!!!!
2 posted on 03/20/2002 11:29:02 PM PST by Captain Culpepper
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To: Cultural Jihad
Like the chains on Marley's Ghost

That "clinton legacy" has been forged link by link by sordid link....

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3 posted on 03/20/2002 11:44:28 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Cultural Jihad
Robert Ray is a traitor, who should have a trial, and be found guilty, where he should then be hung at ground zero.

Robert Ray failed the country

Clinton Helped Shape 'Every Clause, Every Word and Every Comma' in deal w/Ray

The deal spares the country the prospect of seeing Bill Clinton put on criminal trial

MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE: RAY DEAL WITH CLINTON OUTRAGEOUS AND ABUSE OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL OFFICE

RAY DEAL WITH CLINTON OUTRAGEOUS AND ABUSE OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL OFFICE

The office of Special Prosecutor Robert Ray has reached an "accommodation" with President Bill Clinton

Judicial Watch Slams Ray-Clinton Deal

Robert Ray Finishes in the Sink

Ray Decision Was Political - Didn't Do His Job

TO RAY, NOTHING BUT UNDERBRUSH! Vince Foster, Whitewater, Travelgate, FBI Files

Ray says 'pressure was applied' on deal with Clinton

I.C. Robert Ray shuts down Project X E-Mail probe

OFF THE HOOK: BILL CLINTON AND INDEPENDENT COUNSEL ROBERT RAY STRIKE DEAL

Ray aborts missing White House e-mail probe

4 posted on 03/20/2002 11:49:28 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: backhoe
Democratic strategist Gary Nordlinger said that ''other than the Clinton haters,'' the Whitewater report carries ''no impact'' politically for the former first lady.

Aside from no impact on Mrs Clinton, can we sneeringly call Nordlinger and the Senator "right-wing conservative haters?"

5 posted on 03/20/2002 11:54:27 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: prognostigaator
The folks on the left are truely clueless about the depth of resentment, anger, and loathing that remain as part of the clinton's bitter "legacy."

For eight years they ripped this country apart, which was the only way they could cling, tenuously, to power.

6 posted on 03/21/2002 12:16:13 AM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
But Ray said prosecutors couldn't rule out the possibility that Hillary Rodham Clinton hid law firm billing records outlining her legal work on a fraud-ridden land development run by her Whitewater real estate partner.

This bitch is as crooked as they come. She's a liar and a rank thief if ever one was born and I wish these bastards in government and the media would call a spade a friggin spade!!!

Now back to our regular broadcast.

7 posted on 03/21/2002 12:37:35 AM PST by zarf
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To: Cultural Jihad
''Some of the statements given by both the president and the first lady during official investigations were factually inaccurate,''

In other words they perjured themselves.

8 posted on 03/21/2002 12:48:25 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Cultural Jihad;Uncle Bill
But seriously guys, what do ya think of Bobby Ray's chances in GOP elective politics? Slim or none?

;O)

9 posted on 03/21/2002 1:04:17 AM PST by metesky
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To: zarf
I wish these bastards in government and the media would call a spade a friggin spade...

I couldn't agree more- sometimes I think they all belong to a "club celeb"-- if you belong to the cult of popularity, you get a free pass on behavior that would land most of us in jail, whereas they just get to chat about it on TV.

10 posted on 03/21/2002 1:23:55 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Cultural Jihad
 

KNOWNOTHING VICTIMS RODHAM/CLINTON REVISITED

Q ERTY2 "There isn't a shred of evidence."

HILLARY, YOU KNOW, KnowNothing Victim Q ERTY4 double bagel,

W I D E B O D Y. low-center-of-gravity Dim Bulb, Congenital Bottom Feeder

Q ERTY3 zipper-hoisted

Humpty Dummies Q ERTY6 utter failures

rodham-clinton reality-check BUMP!

Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.

Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering,

by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

Mia T, Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Effectively Pleads 5TH in Press Conference by Invoking Spousal Privilege

With President Clinton's encouragement, his half-brother, Roger, collected hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby on behalf of as many as 13 people seeking presidential pardons and other favors, a key congressional panel has found. <snip>
 
The probe concluded that the former president and his administration repeatedly failed to properly check the backgrounds of people seeking pardons and <snip> permitted a culture that provided easy opportunities for relatives and close associates of the president to make money on the side by lobbying for clemency and other presidential favors for convicted felons...[R]equests bypassed the normal Justice Department review system and instead went directly to the Oval Office <snip>.
 
Roger Clinton could not be reached for comment. Bill Clinton has denied that pardons were for sale.<snip>
 
Congressional investigators found that the president's brother-in-law Hugh Rodham... suggested that former First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was also behind the commutation.<snip>
 
In addition <snip> Rodham, despite his public statements to the contrary, has returned less than one-fourth of the $204,000 fee that he said he had given back to the Vignali family.
 
The committee also determined that President Clinton granted a pardon to fugitive financier Marc Rich only after his sponsor, former White House Counsel Jack Quinn, went around the Justice Department. Quinn apparently did so on the advice of then-Deputy Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr., who was hoping to be elevated to attorney general if Al Gore was elected president, the report found. <snip>
 
 

Roger Clinton Said to Be Deeply Tied to Pardons

Politics: House reform panel says ex-president encouraged his brother.

  • the deposition of Sonya Stewart, which tells us that "the trade mission issues were "only the tip of the iceberg -- that the really big money went towards Presidential access." Mr. Grafeld indicated to me that he believes that Ms. Moss was asking for political contributions in exchange for seats on Commerce Department trade missions, likely at the direction of Hillary Rodham Clinton, but that documents showing this illegal activity had "left the building."
  • "a huge box" hauled back to Camp David by said corrupt president under subpoena.

the Gestalt--the synthesis of the evidence -- the absurd reason for the president's Thanksgiving-Day Camp David-DC-Camp David trip; the Ron-Brown-posthumous, Ron-Brown-related, Thanksgiving-Day corpse; the Sonya Stewart deposition informing us that evidence of illegal Commerce activity had "left the building;" and "a huge box" hauled back to Camp David by said corrupt president under subpoena.

Mia T, Helen Thomas Syndrome: THE SYMPTOMS

 

 

HEY, HEY MARY JO!
 
by Mia T
 
So many pardons 4 sale.
 
So many rodhams & clintons to nail.
 
Hey, hey Mary Jo!
 
Can you spell R-I-C-O?

Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Holds News Conference
EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE

by Mia T

 

WASHINGTON- February 22. Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton held her premiere press conference today on Capitol Hill, ostensibly to answer questions about the peddling of White House pardons by her brother and her campaign treasurer. Notably absent among the press queries were any about her own involvement not only in those pardons, but in the larger universe of sold pardons--the incipient clinton scandal du jour--Pardongate.

KnowNothing's brother, Hugh Rodham, secured two of the 141 clinton midnight pardons, one for a cocaine kingpin and the other for a snake-oil swindler. Rodham netted a quick $400,000 for his "work" according to various rodhams and clintons and their assorted lawyers. KnowNothing's campaign treasurer, William Cunningham III, himself a law partner of longtime KnowNothing adviser Harold Ickes, helped obtain last-minute pardons for two convicted felons.

LA FAMIGLIA

Displaying a willingness to throw her brother (along with her husband) to the wolves, Sen. Victim Clinton was quick to make a distinction between her big, bad brother's pardon "work" and that of her campaign treasurer, "a fine lawyer and a fine man." The "family" connection of brother Rodham to Clinton made brother Rodham's "work" bad, bad, bad, whereas the campaign treasurer Cunningham's connection to the senator and her campaign coffers made his securing of two pardons in record time a sterling example of highminded, effective public service.

KnowNothing is apparently not the best of thinkers. If the "family" connection makes lobbying for cocaine-kingpin and snake-oil-swindler pardons bad, bad, bad for brother Rodham, then the "family" connection makes lobbying for the Hasidim 4 (see Keating 5) pardons bad, badder, baddest for the wife, First Lady and senator-elect. Moreover, pardons for votes is arguably worse than pardons for dough.

EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE

KnowNothing specifically declined to answer when asked whether she discussed the pardons with her husband, effectively pleading the 5th. Turning aside questions about the pardon decisions her husband had made, she told reporters they should address those issues with him and his staff. She refused to say whether he should agree to appear voluntarily before congressional committees investigating the pardons. Interestingly, no one asked her whether she would agree to appear voluntarily before those same congressional committees.

I DIDN'T HAVE SEX WITH THAT PARDON

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

RESURRECTING RUFF

KnowNothing noted that her"best memory" was that she never spoke to her brother or to Mr. Cunningham about the pardons. With variations of "I don't have a memory" and "my best memory, and avoiding the more obvious "I don't recall" and "my best recollection," KnowNothing reprised the Ruffian standard used during the clinton years to commit perjury without penalty.

I GET LETTERS

...or more precisely, envelopes. During her denials of involvement in any of the pardons, KnowNothing made the curious claim: "People handed me envelopes, I passed them on [and never opened a single one. Honest.]"

I AM VICTIM

Reprising the role of victim that enabled her to win a senate seat in spite of record-high personal negatives and public failures, the senator peppered her answers about big, bad Hugh (understanding that the subtext was big, bad Bill) with "saddened" and "disappointed" and "heartbroken" and "shocked."

UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE PEOPLE

This session today was cut short by a staffer when reporters appeared dissatisfied by Senator KnowNothing's lack of candor.

In the end, this press conference full of poses, poll-tested phrases and prevarication was just another display of the clintons' utter contempt for the people. Bill Clinton committed the same error last Sunday in his shameless, lie-filled New York Times Pardongate Apologia.

The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.

 
 

 
  
Don't lose
Your head
To gain a minute
You need your head
Your brains are in it.
--an old roadside ad, Pushme-Pullyou
 
 
 
 
 

11 posted on 03/21/2002 1:47:09 AM PST by Mia T
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To: clinton haters
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12 posted on 03/21/2002 2:16:22 AM PST by Liz
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To: Mia T; Cultural Jihad
Well, that settles it.....
There still just ain't enough hard evidence
to wipe that smirk off Slick Willie's face -


Except when he wants to turn on
the tears for the cameras.


13 posted on 03/21/2002 2:17:15 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
 

 
 

Q ERTY3 zipper-hoistedrodham

clinton zipper vitiated by obvious spilth reality-check BUMP!

 

 

 

 

The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know. She said "You won't believe what this &^%$#@#$%^ did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Shaun Hannity, WABC, 10/16/00

You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.
 

JUANITA BROADDRICK, AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON

"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

Shays Shocker: Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice

It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

-- Hillary Rodham Clinton, addressing the UN, 3.4.99  

As we've learned from the Juanita Broaddrick story (non-story, I should say) and countless others, the Clintons will do their best Muhammad Ali impression and play rope-a-dope one more time. Like they said - they've got to "get back to the business of the American people." You know - degrading the military, censoring the Internet, and bombing other countries. There's no time to deal with rape allegations or small details like a contempt charge.

---No Person is Above the Law

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Fridayís conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness. . .

---Richard Poe, The Hillary Conspiracy

The clinton Rapes: Credit where credit is due...
Even hillary hagiographer, Gail Sheehy, concedes that hillary clinton deserves no less than half of the credit for the clinton rapes:
She made the money, she laid out the political strategy. She fought his political enemies for him. She gave him a beautiful child. She was an excellent mother. What more could you want in a political wife? So these other little escapades on the side were just, you know, white noise.
 
Historically, hillary clinton has always been a co-equal partner in clintoncrime.
Specifically, hillary clinton raped, too. For two decades, for power, for all intents and purposes, hillary clinton both provided and pinned her husband's prey as he raped them, again and again.
 
In a novel twist of logic and reality during the First Rapist's impeachment trial, the co-rapist portrayed the endless string of clinton rapes as significant clinton public policy, euphemistically dubbing chronic clinton predation "ministering to troubled young girls."

Mia T, First Rapist's Rose-Garden Escape: The Full Story

Arkansas nursing home operator Juanita Broaddrick told impeachment investigators she was raped not once but twice by Bill Clinton during a brutal attack in a Little Rock hotel room 22 years ago, Connecticut Congressman Christopher Shays revealed Wednesday...

Shays Reveals Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president. There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

LINK
 
by Mia T
 
It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,
and listen to the song of that siren
till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be the number of those
who, having eyes, see not,
and having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.
-----------------Patrick Henry
 
In a dark time, the eye begins to see.
----------------- Theodore Roethke
 

THE BOTTOM LINE:

 

14 posted on 03/21/2002 2:48:04 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Holy Pickering Mia!
What a freepin' post!
I'm gonna have to get back to it when I wake up.
Geez Louise!
15 posted on 03/21/2002 2:56:11 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Uncle Bill
I don't agree with your rant.

The government knew that Al Capone and Joseph Bonnano and that whole crew were gangsters, but they operated for years without prosecutors being able to touch them.

This is because under our system of jurisprudence you have to have sufficient evidence in order to successfully prosecute and obtain a conviction.

Capone finally went down--on a TAX EVASION charge. He never formally served time for the hundreds of murders and uncountable other felonies.

The Clintons have the best cover of any crime family in the history of the U.S.: Bill was Governor and then President, and Hillary the loyal First Lady and now Senator from New York. They have had the entire Democrat Party apparatus covering them for the last ten years; before that, the Arkansas Mafia. They have been able to keep things sufficiently covered up that even though the circumstantial evidence is all there, it is not enough for a serious attempt at a trial.

To us, the evidence is glaring, but WE don't have to go before a grand jury to get an indictment, and before a judge and jury to get a conviction. If they were tried and acquitted, it would be a huge P.R. coup, because all you'd hear from the Dems for the next fifty years is how the VRWC used the government to harrass and attempt to humiliate the Clintons but they came out smelling like a rose.

16 posted on 03/21/2002 2:56:52 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
B.S. The Republicans, the Senate, Kenneth Starr, Robert Ray, George W. Bush, Ashcroft, and all the rest of the sorry limpwristed pathetic wimps sold out Americans, truth, justice and restoring the rule of law long ago. The Justice Department, FBI, Independent Counsel, and about every lawyer and bureaucrat involved are as corrupt and bought as they come. I'm sick of people like you trying to stick up for these scum. The Clinton's weren't hard to catch. The only hard thing to catch was somebody honest. That never happened. Sell it to somebody else. You people have been trolling through here for years trying to get somebody to believe your stupid idiotic excuses for these corrupt scum. It's a joke. Dane, Howlin and Sinkspur are around somewhere. They'll bite. Maybe you can stand on a box and scream: "It was the FBI Files", "It was the FBI Files." Wimps. Just like Jorge W. Bush.
17 posted on 03/21/2002 3:14:16 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Illbay
This is because under our system of jurisprudence you have to have sufficient evidence in order to successfully prosecute and obtain a conviction.

Only in FairyLand. The rich and powerful are above the law. Look at the cases right now - we've got a couple on trial because their dogs (not they themselves) killed a neighbor. Meanwhile, Condit, who obviously knew something about Chandra Levy is given a pass. Do you think you would be given a pass if a close associate of yours turns up missing and there is suspicion that you were involved and your only tactic was to stonewall?

18 posted on 03/21/2002 3:23:34 AM PST by Utopia
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To: ppaul; illbay; MiaT
Yes, the Clintons appear to have skated FOR now, but stuff has a way of coming out when it's least expected....and, if I may, console yourselves with the thoughts that the Dems ARE paying the price for their zombie-like fealty to the Clintons..

Look, if the Dem leadership and Gore had called for Clinton to resign after he admitted that he lied to the grand jury, the incumbent president Gore would have been elected easily in 2000...no bones about it....and then, where the hell would the country be today? Scary thought.....so, there, is indeed a God, He works his way mysteriously, and he is looking out for this blessed nation of ours, though he's sorely testing the patience of Freepers. Because the Dems sold their souls to Clinton, we have the right man leeading us in the War on Terror, he's he easily re-elected in 2004, and the GOP will regain the Senate majority this fall....and when the time is right, the Clintons will be called to account...

19 posted on 03/21/2002 3:24:51 AM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050
Hope you are right! But been waitin for the other shoe to drop for a long, long time.
20 posted on 03/21/2002 3:45:39 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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