Posted on 03/07/2002 4:43:36 AM PST by Donald Stone
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Baltimore's top FBI agent made an unusual public apology yesterday for the shooting Friday of an unarmed Pasadena man whom federal agents had mistakenly identified as a bank robbery suspect. But she refused to discuss the incident in detail, saying that could jeopardize open investigations.
"Let me express our sincere sorrow for this unfortunate accident," said Lynne A. Hunt, special agent in charge of the FBI's local office. "I want this community to know we will do everything necessary to complete a full investigation of the facts."
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Did the FBI have "Probable Cause" to even stop this vehicle ?
To determine if in fact, the FBI agents were laughing at the scene of the shooting while the victim lay on the ground bleeding and refused to call for medical help.
For a glimpse of where this sort of thing will eventually lead, go HERE.
http://63.99.106.201/stories/story.asp?a=429&z=8
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rsmith@wbal.comGood take on the Schultz shooting from a local law enforcement officer.
March 6, 2002 e-mail to the Ron Smith Show
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:43:28 EST
Subject: Local Police Officers Perspective
To:
I have been listening to your show the last couple of days with interest to
the incident involving the FBI's shooting of Joseph Schultz. As a police
officer I hate to Monday morning quarterback, but in this case I see many
things that trouble me. First why didn't the FBI contact Anne Arundel County
Police to make the actual traffic stop in marked cars and uniform officers?
The suspect vehicle was not running or evading them thus they probably had
time to do this.
Second, when the stop was made, why wasn't a "Felony Stop" conducted? This
is a police tactic where the occupants of the car are ordered out one at a
time while officers stay behind the cover of their cars. This gives the
officers plenty of time to evaluate any threats and puts the suspects in a
severe disadvantage if they decide to resist the police. If it turns out the
persons detained were the wrong suspects, only thing hurt is a little pride.
This technique is used because it keeps citizens and police safe. What if the
persons in the car were the actual suspects? The agents put themselves too
close to them. If the suspects had a death wish they may have had good shots
at the agents since they had no cover and were so close, leaving us with dead
agents and suspects. I think the real concern is not that the FBI had the
wrong suspects, that happens to the best, but the tactics used to confront
them.
One last question, if this incident involved a local officer, don't you
think the name of the officer would have been released and "Live, Local,
Latebreaking Jane" would have been at his and neighbors doorsteps asking "How
do you feel?" One thing I do agree with is keeping the agents name a secret,
at least for a few days, till he can prepare his family for the onslaught.
It would be nice if local law enforcement heads had the same courtesy for
their own officer involved shootings.
Please do not use my name or email address on the air.
Thanks,
FBI = "Culture of Corruption,Maryland"
Lynne A. Hunt = Head of FBI Baltimore,MD.
Dave Midura = Special Agent In Charge of the Annapolis,MD. field office (Shooters alleged Supervisor)
FBI Shooter and accomplices (names unknown)
I wonder if we will ever find out his name.
This behavior is more common than law enforcers will admit. I have lost faith in all levels of law enforcement. They have a cowboy attitude that overrides the professionalism they try to project through their unions. They are mutually protective; no officer will incur penalty for irresponsibility while doing his/her job. Finally, there are just too many armed federal police just looking for a chance to "enforce" against American citizens.
Hopefully, they will charge him with attempted murder.
I'll bet they really come down hard on this agent, a verbal reprimand and dock his pay for the bullet, even though they it will be against federal employment policy to release his name and action taken.
Thanks for posting this, it helps answer some basic questions from a LEO point of view.
I remember when this really meant "that could jeopardize open investigations."
Now it means "that could jeopardize our public image, if the people knew what a bunch of incompetent and corrupt jerks we are."
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