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Clean Elections offers a big lift to Green Party (''communists and socialists and crazy people'')
Boston Globe ^ | March 3, 2002 | Yvonne Abraham

Posted on 03/03/2002 3:48:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

She is pushing a platform of universal health care, solar panels and windmills, better waste recycling, and an end to subsidies for corporations and environmentally unfriendly developers.

In any other year, Stein would be just another third-party candidate, barely able to put a dent in the public consciousness. A complete unknown, she spoke at Northeastern University last week and drew only 12 people.


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…. Stein said. ''Advocates from across the spectrum of social and economic justice really don't have a home in the Democratic Party, and people are starting to wake up to this.''

She's speaking for people like this. The Congressional Progressive Caucus
and socialist groups like this who have as part of their agenda the socialist garbage LINKED below.

Get Private Money out of Politics [Excerpt] Perhaps no single factor threatens democracy in this nation more than the control of private money over public elections. The public has grown increasingly outraged over the flagrant abuse of loopholes, systematic influence peddling, and political favors. It has become clear that the system of laws governing campaign financing has been rendered meaningless and must be restructured. Recent scandals focus public attention on possible illegalities, but the bigger scandal is that so much of the money changing hands has been completely legal. What President Johnson observed some 30 years ago is still true today: the system is more loophole than law.

Campaigns are too expensive; large corporate interests have too much influence; good candidates without money or connections to corporate interests don't have a fair chance of competing for office; and politicians spend too much time raising campaign money instead of devoting their full energies to the duties of public office. While Congress and state legislatures appear far from any consensus on the problem, much less a solution, there are signs that citizens are far ahead of the politicians. Last November, Maine voters approved a Clean Money Election initiative that offers full public financing to candidates who voluntarily reject large private contributions and agree to campaign spending limits. We suggest that this kind of initiative represents the most comprehensive and far-reaching approach to the formidable obstacle to democracy posed by the problem of private money in politics. [End Excerpt]

1 posted on 03/03/2002 3:48:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Campaigns are too expensive; large corporate interests have too much influence; good candidates without money or connections to corporate interests don't have a fair chance of competing for office; and politicians spend too much time raising campaign money instead of devoting their full energies to the duties of public office.

Pretty accurate, and not a good thing (except perhaps the impediment to "devoting their full energies to the duties of public office").

The solution is not 'public' financing though. If government stayed out of my and your life, there would be a lot less incentive for 'special' interests to contribute. Not gonna happen, though.

2 posted on 03/03/2002 4:25:56 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Finneran and the large voting bloc that keeps him in power

But isn't this her precious "democracy" in action?

Green Party members say their involvement will bring fresh energy and ideas to the election.

Ah yes, ideas as fresh as they were when Karl Marx came up with them.

Watch for the next big "ideas" from the Green Party: Fire and The Wheel, only better. No, really.

3 posted on 03/03/2002 4:39:20 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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5 posted on 03/03/2002 4:46:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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6 posted on 03/03/2002 4:46:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: seamole
Bump for the "Bump List"
8 posted on 03/03/2002 4:48:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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The Green cabal bases their political strategy on a Field of Dreams type of model, "Wish it and it will be".

When confronted with reality, a Green will fall back on "Never wished, never to be" while chiding people to deny "Corporations" the opportunity to control their lives. And just what are corporations? Starbucks? Pfizer which markets Atorvastatin? Corporations are as varied as the fish in the sea but are we to think they are all evil?

Greens have oversimplified things to the extent that they cannot gain legitimacy unless they buy slick green marketing using our taxes.

But what is truly irksome about Greeny people is that when American entrepreneurs (and corporate and academic scientists) finally do solve some of the environmental problems that can be successfully marketed (by corporations), these people will claim credit for it.

"Wish it and it will be" and "if and when it comes to pass, it was only because WE THE GREENS wished it so". How insulting to American scientists who dedicate themselves to advancing science. Now these algaic slimesters are proposing that we pay taxes that are given to them so that they may tell us how all our good efforts and products (deemed and labeled environmentally-friendly) are their ideas.

10 posted on 03/03/2002 4:54:57 AM PST by Hostage
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Greens have oversimplified things to the extent that they cannot gain legitimacy unless they buy slick green marketing using our taxes. But what is truly irksome about Greeny people is that when American entrepreneurs (and corporate and academic scientists) finally do solve some of the environmental problems that can be successfully marketed (by corporations), these people will claim credit for it.

We'll now they have a pot of money to start building a base and registering voters. Drip. Drip. Drip. Another other thing they can depend on is the money corporations give as tribute (paid by the consumer) to these "communists and socialist and crazy people" to keep them off their backs.

12 posted on 03/03/2002 5:05:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Well, (correction)
14 posted on 03/03/2002 5:06:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: seamole
Massachusetts is the logical state to nurture snakes in the grass.
15 posted on 03/03/2002 5:57:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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ROFL..

So, the worm turns, eh Teddy?

You build your own little socialist empire, then along come bigger, tougher socialists to take it away from you.

If you have ever read the Green party platform you will realize immediately that there is no way even the "great" Ted Kennedy can out socialist these people.

If the Mass voters want socialism and Government sponsored coddling at the expense of "evil, greedy corporations" and massive political correctness, the Greenies win hands down.

The Democrats don't even hold a candle.. Aren't even in the same league as Nader's bunch.

16 posted on 03/03/2002 6:12:46 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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Why, I think it's fitting for 'ole Ted to have to battle it out with the REAL Socialists, since he's been furthering this end half heartedly for years on end.

Ted is a miserable socialist compared to these people, can't even come close..

THE GREEN PARTY PLATFORM

Bwahaha.. If Mass is as socialist as people say, He's surely screwed. And to their credit, Nader and his bunch are honest about it.

They are honest about their intentions, whereas Teddy is not.

17 posted on 03/03/2002 6:20:35 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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18 posted on 03/03/2002 7:20:33 AM PST by WIMom
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