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'Suicide' Baxter Talked About Hiring a Bodyguard
The Independent - London ^ | 1/28/2002 | David Randall

Posted on 01/28/2002 7:54:34 PM PST by ex-Texan

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To: ex-Texan
Am I the only one who was watching the 10:00 pm news on channel 2 in Houston the same day that Mr. Baxter's body was discovered? I heard Linda Lorrell say that although it appeared to be a suicide an autopsy had been ordered. She then said that those on the scene reported a bullet exit wound from Baxter's body but no bullet or bullet exit was found in/on the car he was found in.

The Justice of the Peace who had originally declared this a suicide was informed of this finding and he ordered an autopsy. They didn't just decide to "err on the side of caution". Some finding at the scene made them suspect this may not have been a suicide after all.

21 posted on 01/29/2002 6:05:11 AM PST by texgal
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To: ex-Texan
I've invited the UK Journalist here, let's hope he shows up:

David Randall
Email: randall@easynet.co.uk

22 posted on 01/29/2002 6:10:41 AM PST by Registered
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To: Registered
Well - that's my question? What was/is the source of some of this info?

An awful lot of this story is opinion and question-asking - and presents no new information that I can see ... other than asking some of the same questions that I have seen posted here on FR (amd I assume other boards as well) and on various talk shows ...

Iit looks like this author is just extremely well-informed; and this story is a well-written composite of all that he has read and studied.

23 posted on 01/29/2002 6:31:15 AM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
Well, let's hope he reads that email.
24 posted on 01/29/2002 6:33:46 AM PST by Registered
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To: texgal
Thank you for that bit of info. Let's hope somebody else not only heard it, but also happened to tape it. I'm sure the studio's original tape has been altered by the FBI by now if you heard correctly.
25 posted on 01/29/2002 6:34:41 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: philman_36
Only true Clintonologists got the reference.
26 posted on 01/29/2002 6:52:35 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: _Jim
You know what _Jim, you have a hard time staying on point don't you. Is that a hereditary trait or just a degenerative thing?
27 posted on 01/29/2002 7:43:54 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: ex-Texan
He left a suicide note. That tells me it was suicide.

Questions that remain are:

Has a handwriting analysis been done on the note?
Was he right handed or left handed?
Which side of the head was he shot?
Does the bullet path trace up from below, or down from above (as though shot while offering ID to someone standing outside the window)?
Since there is no report of windows being shattered from an exiting bullet, did the (.380 or .38?) bullet lodge in the seat, indicating a path from above to below, ore remain in his skull?
Since some reports indicate he used a .380 and others mention a revolver, is there such thing as a .380 revolver?

The answers to these basic questions will enable even the most junior of detectives to rule on the presence of foul play.

The withholding of answers to these questions should raise some red flags.

28 posted on 01/29/2002 7:54:39 AM PST by Wm Bach
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To: ex-Texan
I guess he took the Vince Foster Suicide by Contortion Correspondence Course...
29 posted on 01/29/2002 8:05:13 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: doug from upland
Only true Clintonologists got the reference.
Quite a catchy name. I guess I've given myself away haven't I.
From the lack of replies not too many caught "the humor" from your reply. The other Clintonologists must have FReepmailed you.
30 posted on 01/29/2002 11:41:58 AM PST by philman_36
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To: seamole
The liberal Villiage Voice rag also have the coroner's shady record in covering up autopsies before.
31 posted on 01/29/2002 11:46:17 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: ex-Texan
"County coroner, Joye M. Carter, a former D.C. medical examiner who graduated from Howard and currently is attached to Baylor and the University of Texas. After performing a court-requested autopsy, Carter's office declared the former Enron exec had killed himself. While saying they respected that decision, local police said they intended to continue investigating.

Carter has had her share of controversy. In 1998, Harris County paid a former employee in the medical examiner's office $375,000, after a jury agreed Carter fired her for reporting potentially illegal cover-ups. Then a federal court awarded another whistleblower $250,000 after she was fired for reporting that an unlicensed physician had performed autopsies. In 2000, writes The Houston Chronicle, a Harris County commissioner asked the county to hire an outside law firm to review Carter's hiring and firing practices. "

32 posted on 01/29/2002 12:17:31 PM PST by Osinski
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To: Osinski
Gary Lane, reporter

July 6, 1997 -- A quiet Georgetown neighborhood in the nation's capital is stunned by a gangland-style murder at the Starbucks' café. One of the three victims, assistant manager Mary "Caity" Mahoney, an avowed lesbian, had served as an intern at the White House. Was it robbery ... or a hit?

November 1996, The U.S. Commerce Department -- The partially nude body of 14-year employee Barbara Wise is found in a fourth floor office following Thanksgiving weekend.

"She worked in the same section as John Huang," says Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch. "She was found naked in an office after a long weekend at the Commerce Department. Does one die naked in a government office? You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out something's being covered up."

District of Columbia police say the Commerce Department death is no mystery at all: the DC medical examiner determined that 48-year-old Barbara Wise died of natural causes. DC homicide detectives refused to talk to CBN News about the Mahoney case, saying the Starbucks murders are still under investigation.

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Any chance Carter was the medical examiner on the Wise case?

34 posted on 02/06/2002 4:59:44 PM PST by honway
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To: Osinski
From her bio:

Prior to assuming this position, Dr. Carter served as Chief Medical Examiner for the District of Columbia. Previous military experience includes serving as Major and Chief Physician and Forensic Pathologist in the United States Air Force Medical Corps. Concurrently, while on military duty, Dr. Carter served as Deputy Chief Medical Examiner at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology where she was in charge of forensic education provided to the military, state department, and federal investigative agencies.

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The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology is the place where the X-rays of Ron Brown's head went missing.

....things that make you go hmmmm.

35 posted on 02/06/2002 5:05:57 PM PST by honway
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To: honway
From alamo-girl.com

11/30/96 AP - A Commerce Department employee was found dead in her fourth-floor office at the agency's downtown headquarters on Friday. The body was discovered around 7:45 a.m. by a co-worker arriving for work, police said. The woman was identified as Barbara Alice Wise, 48, of Gambrills, Md. She had worked as a secretary for 14 years at the department's International Trade Administration. Anne Luzzatto, chief spokeswoman for Commerce Secretary Mickey Kantor, said the unit where she worked provided analysis for various industries in studies designed to boost export sales….. A local television station, WRC, quoted unidentified police sources as saying that the office where the body was found was locked and the body was partially nude…."

WorldNetDaily 5/4/99 David Bresnahan "...Barbara Wise worked for Brown, well down the chain of command. She was a secretary and worked in an area of Commerce in which she was well aware of the dealings of Brown, Juang, and others…. Barbara Wise was found dead in her office. She was partially clad and blood was evident when she was found on the floor the day after Thanksgiving. An effort was made by Commerce officials and others to portray her as a drunk and abusive to herself. Police investigated it as a homicide until the sudden claim that her death was by natural causes..."

36 posted on 02/06/2002 7:08:58 PM PST by honway
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To all:

Please disregard the Carter connection to the Barbara Wise autopsy. Carter was in Houston in November 1996, when Barbara died.

Dr. Joye M. Carter assumed the Chief Medical Examiner position in July 1996. She comes to Houston from a background as Chief Medical Examiner in Washington D.C. and Chief Physician, Forensic Pathologist, United States Air Force Medical Corps.

37 posted on 02/06/2002 7:21:47 PM PST by honway
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To: ex-Texan
BTTT
38 posted on 02/09/2002 8:33:13 AM PST by maestro
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